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British business leaders, including the directors of JML and Wetherspoon, today urge that the Prime Minister must pursue a managed No Deal Brexit.
“The Government’s deal is not in the best interests of business, nor is it the only option. The Government has tried to portray Theresa May’s deal as the only one that delivers for business; that is simply not true.
“As businesses, we do not fear a managed No Deal but welcome it. A managed No Deal would be good for business.
“It would give us the flexibility to embrace global opportunities, extend global trade and focus outwards. It would give the Government the chance to run our economy and country in a way that operates in the best interests of us all.
“As leaders of companies, large and small, employing thousands of workers across the whole of the UK, we urge the Government to change course in this negotiation.
“Today’s no confidence vote must be a wake up call to all Parliamentarians. On the back of yesterday’s vote, it is clear that Theresa May’s deal is dead and increasingly a managed No Deal is the only option for the country.
“The Government and Theresa May only has itself to blame for the predicament it finds itself in today. The Government ignored large swathes of the business community and sidelined expertise and cross party voices that could have given a broader perspective on negotiations. This must change.
“The Government and MPs from all parties must now focus all their energies on laying down the path to a managed No Deal followed by comprehensive free trade deals with the European Union and the rest of the world.
“This is an opportunity the UK cannot afford to squander. The Government must change course now.”
Richard Tice Quidnet Capital
John Longworth Entrepreneur Former Director General British Chambers of Commerce
Tom Bohills Alliance of British Entrepreneurs
Sir Rocco Forte Rocco Forte Hotels
John Mills JML Ltd
Tim Martin Wetherspoon Ltd
Roger Bootle Business Economist
Edi Truell UK Strategic Investment Advisory Board
Pension SuperFund ALM Committee
Mark Roberts Loxton Developments Ltd
John May Entrepreneur Hill Houses Nexus
Arabella Arkwright Hatton World
Alistair Kelman Cashbox TV Ltd
Mark Hill Simple Accounting Ltd
Neil Westwood Magic Whiteboard Ltd
Alastair MacMillan White House Products Ltd
Lance Forman Forman Salmon
Richard Patient Thorncliffe Ltd
John Fifield Fifield Glyn Ltd
Bruce MacInnes Brand Alley
Adrian Fisher Adrian Fisher Design Ltd
Emma Pullen The British Hovercraft Company Ltd
Jeremy Hosking Hosking & Co. Asset Management
Simon Boyd Reid Steel
Johnnie Arkwright Hatton House
Ian Herbert Vistair
Christopher Nieper David Nieper Ltd
Stephen R Britt Anchor Storage Ltd
Stuart Wheeler IG Index
Viscountess Bridgeman, Bridgeman Art Library
Giles Fuchs, Office Space in Town
Jon Moulton, Better Capital
Robert Law, AGD Equipment
Arthur Jones, ANJ Executive
Brian Yeardley, Brian Yeardley Continental
Mark Wheatley, City of London
Dave Bentley, Dave Bentley Ecology Services
David Kirk, David Kirk & Co
Bill Good, Diverco
William Jones, Global Village
Graham Hutton, Hutton Collins Partners LLP
Rupert Gather, Invest UK
Chris Kelly, Keltruck Limited
Julian Morgan, KPM-Marine
Andrew Kitchen, LK2 Architects Ltd
Jamie Robb, Marlborough Tiles
Spencer Clarke, 121prodata Ltd
Anthony Smethurst, A S P Stampwise Rubber Stamp
Andrew Dixon, Andrew Dixon Photography
Angela Cook, Angies Transport Services Ltd
Colin and Annette Penny, APG Equine Limited
Philip Brooker, Arun Microelectronics Ltd
Andy Richards, ASL Catering Agency Ltd
Neil Ballantyne, Ballantynes of Walkerburn
Neville Wright, Beeson Wright Ltd
Clive Blackman, BHCG Ltd
Peter Bishop, Bishop GmbH
Steve Barson, Burley Appliances
Steve Smith, Buzz Networks Ltd
Adam Cleary, Cavenham Capital
Kevin Bell, CDM 2014
Patrick Hurd, Cintis International Ltd
Steve Ody, Citrus Travel
Geoff Townley, Commercial Gas Consultants
Chris Chatfield, Compass Travel
Gwyndaf Jones, Cwrw Da Cyf
David Watson, David Watson Transport
Michael Bilewycz, Decisis Limited
Christopher Gower, Direct Nickel Projects Limited
F.C.A Hamilton, Dscribe Ltd
Nick Berry, Early Oak Reproductions Ltd.
Ivor Chivers, Eco Solutions Limited
Julie Williams, EdgeC
Richard Debenham, Elevation Lift Services Ltd.
Mick Kelly, Elmesthorpe Projects Ltd
Dr John Hart, Endocrine Pharmaceuticals Ltd
James Blott, Engineering and Defence Sectors
Flavius Fernandes, ERPSirius Ltd
Nick Sellick, Estate Insurance Group
Dermot Glynn, Europe Economics
Richard Foleher, Everything Voice Ltd
Stu Taylor, Firenze Partners
Anthony Gibbon, Garreg Farm
Geoff Oborne, Geoff Oborne Gardening Ltd
Nick Cresswell, Glebe Engineering Ltd
Tim Trotter, Glenfern
Matthew Byrne, Greengage Lighting Limited
Trevor Honeyman, Honeyman Group Limited
William Bavin, House of Marbles & Teign Valley Glass
Darren White, Ibex Risk Management
David W Ford, Ingenica Solutions Ltd & Lightpoint Medical
Jason Mark, Rutter Jason Mark Rutter Ltd
Kevin Davies, KDM Events
Ajay Jagota, KIS Group & Dlighted
Roger Hall, Marlowe James
Ben Walker, MonkeyFist Construction and Precision Planning
Alan Graves, Norcon Computers Ltd.
Henry O’Lone, Oare Limited
Karl Pearsall, Original Thing Ltd
Peter Harris, Peter James Group
Tim Price, Price Value Partners
Colin Rennie, Rennie Park Associates
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British business leaders, including the directors of JML and Wetherspoon, today urge that the Prime Minister must pursue a managed No Deal Brexit.
“The Government’s deal is not in the best interests of business, nor is it the only option. The Government has tried to portray Theresa May’s deal as the only one that delivers for business; that is simply not true.
“As businesses, we do not fear a managed No Deal but welcome it. A managed No Deal would be good for business.
“It would give us the flexibility to embrace global opportunities, extend global trade and focus outwards. It would give the Government the chance to run our economy and country in a way that operates in the best interests of us all.
“As leaders of companies, large and small, employing thousands of workers across the whole of the UK, we urge the Government to change course in this negotiation.
“Today’s no confidence vote must be a wake up call to all Parliamentarians. On the back of yesterday’s vote, it is clear that Theresa May’s deal is dead and increasingly a managed No Deal is the only option for the country.
“The Government and Theresa May only has itself to blame for the predicament it finds itself in today. The Government ignored large swathes of the business community and sidelined expertise and cross party voices that could have given a broader perspective on negotiations. This must change.
“The Government and MPs from all parties must now focus all their energies on laying down the path to a managed No Deal followed by comprehensive free trade deals with the European Union and the rest of the world.
“This is an opportunity the UK cannot afford to squander. The Government must change course now.”
Richard Tice Quidnet Capital
John Longworth Entrepreneur Former Director General British Chambers of Commerce
Tom Bohills Alliance of British Entrepreneurs
Sir Rocco Forte Rocco Forte Hotels
John Mills JML Ltd
Tim Martin Wetherspoon Ltd
Roger Bootle Business Economist
Edi Truell UK Strategic Investment Advisory Board
Pension SuperFund ALM Committee
Mark Roberts Loxton Developments Ltd
John May Entrepreneur Hill Houses Nexus
Arabella Arkwright Hatton World
Alistair Kelman Cashbox TV Ltd
Mark Hill Simple Accounting Ltd
Neil Westwood Magic Whiteboard Ltd
Alastair MacMillan White House Products Ltd
Lance Forman Forman Salmon
Richard Patient Thorncliffe Ltd
John Fifield Fifield Glyn Ltd
Bruce MacInnes Brand Alley
Adrian Fisher Adrian Fisher Design Ltd
Emma Pullen The British Hovercraft Company Ltd
Jeremy Hosking Hosking & Co. Asset Management
Simon Boyd Reid Steel
Johnnie Arkwright Hatton House
Ian Herbert Vistair
Christopher Nieper David Nieper Ltd
Stephen R Britt Anchor Storage Ltd
Stuart Wheeler IG Index
Viscountess Bridgeman, Bridgeman Art Library
Giles Fuchs, Office Space in Town
Jon Moulton, Better Capital
Robert Law, AGD Equipment
Arthur Jones, ANJ Executive
Brian Yeardley, Brian Yeardley Continental
Mark Wheatley, City of London
Dave Bentley, Dave Bentley Ecology Services
David Kirk, David Kirk & Co
Bill Good, Diverco
William Jones, Global Village
Graham Hutton, Hutton Collins Partners LLP
Rupert Gather, Invest UK
Chris Kelly, Keltruck Limited
Julian Morgan, KPM-Marine
Andrew Kitchen, LK2 Architects Ltd
Jamie Robb, Marlborough Tiles
Spencer Clarke, 121prodata Ltd
Anthony Smethurst, A S P Stampwise Rubber Stamp
Andrew Dixon, Andrew Dixon Photography
Angela Cook, Angies Transport Services Ltd
Colin and Annette Penny, APG Equine Limited
Philip Brooker, Arun Microelectronics Ltd
Andy Richards, ASL Catering Agency Ltd
Neil Ballantyne, Ballantynes of Walkerburn
Neville Wright, Beeson Wright Ltd
Clive Blackman, BHCG Ltd
Peter Bishop, Bishop GmbH
Steve Barson, Burley Appliances
Steve Smith, Buzz Networks Ltd
Adam Cleary, Cavenham Capital
Kevin Bell, CDM 2014
Patrick Hurd, Cintis International Ltd
Steve Ody, Citrus Travel
Geoff Townley, Commercial Gas Consultants
Chris Chatfield, Compass Travel
Gwyndaf Jones, Cwrw Da Cyf
David Watson, David Watson Transport
Michael Bilewycz, Decisis Limited
Christopher Gower, Direct Nickel Projects Limited
F.C.A Hamilton, Dscribe Ltd
Nick Berry, Early Oak Reproductions Ltd.
Ivor Chivers, Eco Solutions Limited
Julie Williams, EdgeC
Richard Debenham, Elevation Lift Services Ltd.
Mick Kelly, Elmesthorpe Projects Ltd
Dr John Hart, Endocrine Pharmaceuticals Ltd
James Blott, Engineering and Defence Sectors
Flavius Fernandes, ERPSirius Ltd
Nick Sellick, Estate Insurance Group
Dermot Glynn, Europe Economics
Richard Foleher, Everything Voice Ltd
Stu Taylor, Firenze Partners
Anthony Gibbon, Garreg Farm
Geoff Oborne, Geoff Oborne Gardening Ltd
Nick Cresswell, Glebe Engineering Ltd
Tim Trotter, Glenfern
Matthew Byrne, Greengage Lighting Limited
Trevor Honeyman, Honeyman Group Limited
William Bavin, House of Marbles & Teign Valley Glass
Darren White, Ibex Risk Management
David W Ford, Ingenica Solutions Ltd & Lightpoint Medical
Jason Mark, Rutter Jason Mark Rutter Ltd
Kevin Davies, KDM Events
Ajay Jagota, KIS Group & Dlighted
Roger Hall, Marlowe James
Ben Walker, MonkeyFist Construction and Precision Planning
Alan Graves, Norcon Computers Ltd.
Henry O’Lone, Oare Limited
Karl Pearsall, Original Thing Ltd
Peter Harris, Peter James Group
Tim Price, Price Value Partners
Colin Rennie, Rennie Park Associates
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The narcissist's in Westminster know better.
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never heard of any of em.
monkeyfist must be made up  surly that herman munster lookalike from wetherspoons would make the list? |
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Monkeyfist is the one that caught my eye too.
My next game of Football Manager I'm calling myself Malcolm Monkeyfist |
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Tim's sixth on ze list.
https://www.facebook.com/MonkeyfistConstruction/ Website link doesn't seem to exist but you could try phoning them  |
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"managed" meaning the government gives everyone on the list loadsamoney.
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Monkeyfist?
Isn't that what Alan Partridge pitched to Tony Hayers after Hayers rejected 'Monkey Tennis'? |
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Btw listen to how many times the BBC use the scare tactics saying "crash out of the EU" when no deal is mentioned
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Btw listen to how many times the BBC use the scare tactics saying "crash out of the EU" when no deal is mentioned
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I know Terry..does my nut in.If its not that its " falling off a cliff".Both expressions are designed to scare the leavers amongst us into submission.
IT AIN'T WORKING. |
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we're leaving on March 29th. That is it. The nutcase is going to have to come up with a miracle to delay Article 50; & the last time i looked at her she wasn't wearing a beard & white robe. The stock answer to any question the MM decide is the flavour of the day should be "We're leaving on the 29th March" And all the agenda seeking under rock toads that are appearing, will slowly shuffle in their seats
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we're leaving on March 29th. That is it. The nutcase is going to have to come up with a miracle to delay Article 50; & the last time i looked at her she wasn't wearing a beard & white robe. The stock answer to any question the MM decide is the flavour of the day should be "We're leaving on the 29th March" And all the agenda seeking under rock toads that are appearing, will slowly shuffle in their seats
You'd think so wouldn't you? It's the default position under the EU (ECJ) rules, and what with 'us needing them more than them needing us' and them already giving us the best deal possible, then this has got to happen, no? However, the EU will bend their rules (which they do when it suits them), the rhetoric re 'No Deal' (which it isn't. What, we will all just stop trading on March 29th will we?) will be ramped up by invertebrate media outlets, big business will rule the day and weasel-words will be used to tell us we are getting the Brexit we voted for. Firstly, it's not to trade on WTO in perpetuity. Taking us out of the EU's legal reach is paramount here. Once we do that we're 100% in control of our own decisions. The EU negotiate only under two scenarios; when they're legally obliged to (as per Article 50) and when it's in their interests to do so (as per their biggest milch cow and market place walking away.) We've recently seen air, truck and UK citizen deals agreed. Germany's auto industry has stated No Deal would be a catastrophe for them and now Merkel offers hope post-WA deal rejection. Amazing! Just as we get closer to departing they magically come to the table. Exactly as Leavers have said from Day 1. |
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We've recently seen air, truck and UK citizen deals agreed - what deals were these please?
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Of course JS, it would be a nonsense to call them deals. They are clearly unilateral capitulations from the EU. Glad we cleared this up.
Must have upset you a bit though, after your assertions that our planes would not fly, our trucks would not drive on EU roads and we would all die of scurvy and malnutrition while attempting to subsist on root vegetables. |
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jed there is a thread on politics where i put up details of the actions that the eu has taken, indeed they have taken unilateral action in their own interest and that is not a deal. they make it quite clear that if they had not taken this action then there would have been no flights. they have issued waivers on safety provisions and have extended certain licences.
if we leave without a deal then no new routes can be set up by british airlines. we will be reduced to four of the nine freedoms of the air, that means there will be no cabotage for air passengers or air freight. this will have very severe consequences for the uk aviation sector. uk operators are moving to the eu and many of the secondary industries are likely to follow them. they have also unilaterally stated that uk truck drivers qualifications will be recognised for nine months, but again cabotage rights have gone. Must have upset you a bit though, after your assertions that our planes would not fly, our trucks would not drive on EU roads and we would all die of scurvy and malnutrition while attempting to subsist on root vegetables. this is a misrepresentation of what i said with a bit of your florid nonsense tacked on, i said that if we left without a deal planes wouldnt fly and trucks wouldnt drive so in order to avoid that we would be doing lots of side deals. so, as i said on the thread where i put up the eu measures, i was wrong about side deals, its even worse as we are completely reliant on whatever decisions the eu decides to take. that you can describe this situation as unilateral capitulations is just you displaying your ignorance as usual. the aviation sector will pay a big price if we leave without a deal. this is what the eu said of their action in december 'In aviation, there is no existing regulatory fall-back option that would allow the continuation of basic connectivity for air transport services between the EU and the UK.' |
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with Loathsome announcing 'another' vote date earlier; it's obvious is it not? That she/ Loathsomes sister, has no intention of broking a 'new deal'
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getting sick of writing it, media ,minor parties all wetting themselves with excitement, when all may is going to do is re hash her deal bringing out some text held back before this weeks vote from the EU about backstop hopping dup can swallow it[dodds just confirmed it on tv ], get numbers down next week come back week after, only question is will Bercow allow the motions
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Planes will fly. You were categorical that they wouldn't, 'florid nonsense' or not.
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getting sick of writing it, media ,minor parties all wetting themselves with excitement, when all may is going to do is re hash her deal bringing out some text held back before this weeks vote from the EU about backstop hopping dup can swallow it[dodds just confirmed it on tv ], get numbers down next week come back week after, only question is will Bercow allow the motions
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I graciously accept that you did change your tune when the EU announced that such a course of action would be unthinkable.
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i was categorical they would not fly if nothing was done jed, you are willfully mis-stating my position. you are just trolling.
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Nothing was done, at least by us. It was a unilateral declaration by the EU, so I'm not misrepresenting anything.
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I told you at the time that they would blink before we did on that issue, and they did. As they have on trucks.
It's like shooting fish in a barrel, as one by one the planks of Project Fear are reduced to rubble. |
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Something has to be put in place, before we leave
I would not like to survive on root vegatables |
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It's OK ebulgery, no need to panic - there is nothing to fear except fear itself.
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you misrepresented what i said and what has happened. the action they have taken means that if we leave without a deal uk air industry will pay a large price. no new routes and a loss of air rights isnt a good thing.
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jed how are you going to keep the planes flying when licences for pilots, planes, airlines and airports wont be valid? who is going to drive uk trucks when they reach the eu as uk licences wont be valid? as a third country without a deal there will be no animal exports from the uk, how will you mitigate this? maritime surveillance, port operations, bloodstock sports, fishing, food exports, on and on the list of areas severely areas goes.
you describe all this as a few months inconvenience - what is your basis for saying this? what research have you done? you are in for a major shock, imo. 45% of our exports go to the eu about 10% of their exports come to us, in the event of no deal its very obvious who loses most. That is what you said, November 9th last year. Now stop lying. |
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get the whole thread up
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It's there for you to peruse it, if I can find it you can.
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In fact I did you a disservice, because there were so many other aspects of our lives that were going to be ruined other than our aviation industry and haulage industries.
But I'm 'in for a major shock' apparently. That shock will not at least be the realisation that I have fallen hook line and sinker for some rather obviously untrue Remain propaganda. |
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get the thread up
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Sorry, did I just invent that post or are they your words?
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jollyswagman • November 9, 2018 7:27 PM GMT
prove it jed, what is your basis for saying that. they are facts, without a deal the government will be desperately doing side deals to try and keep the country going. read the eu notices to stakeholders. the boss of heathrow has £1.6 billion set aside in case heathrow is closed for a few months. and that is a subsequent post on the same thread. as i have said twice i was wrong there are no side deals, the eu is taking unilateral action to mitigate the worst of leaving without a deal. i was not wrong that if no action was taking these bad things would happen. like i said, you misrepresented my position and that post i just put up explains why. that is why you wouldnt put up the thread. |
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Your position could not be clearer, that post I highlighted sums it. I didn't post the whole thread because I didn't really see the need. I'll leave it up to others to judge whether you have been misrepresented.
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you didnt put the whole thread up because it gives context and makes it clear that i think action will be taken to stop these adverse events happening.
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I didn't even read the whole thread but now I have I see the common theme.
Essentially, it was yet another conversation where the Remain representatives made a load of unsubstantiated claims about our future doom and when I pointed out their baseless hysteria, I was shot down. I'm used to it now though, so don't feel bad. |
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The problem is that ‘Leave’ is just too complex, we are told.
And so the same people who tell us that the EU stops war, creates peace, can unite a continent’s economics and simultaneously stand as a counterpoint to American and Russian power now also tell us that no way can be found for an EU member state to leave the bloc on agreeable terms. It’s all just too complicated, apparently. Perhaps it would have been more honest if the voting slip in 2016 had only offered us one box to tick. |
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i voted leave but want to do so in a controlled manner.
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hanx you seem to want to leave without any deal and then negotiate, has that always been your position?
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So where would you go now JS?
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