May v Corbyn. Who would you trust ?

A labour mp stood in a minutes silence to honour the 8 ira men shot dead by the sas. mr corbyn 38 joined a 200 strong party at conway hall to honour the dead shot at loughall

Lol how can you possibly be that naive the British governments were talking to the Ira all the way through the conflict


Ffs anxious are really that naive? Of course the government was talking to them, but the difference is unlike Corbyn they had the power to make deals. Enemy of the state was just sh1tstirring

mr corbyn then mp for islington attacked the governments policy of troops in northern ireland

anxious
Lol how can you possibly be that naive the British governments were talking to the Ira all the way through the conflict

That's embarrassing anxious. We know that, it was there duty to seek peace and they did by engaging both sides.

he told the meeting of the wolfe tone commitee , am am happy  to commerorate anyone fighting for an independant Ireland

How come people who live in this country can hate it so much ?

Again this is all historical tittle tattle , just another attempt by the tory lie machine and its cheerleaders to discredit him , as i said earlier the younger generation are not interested , they are interested in the their future and have rejected the Spiv divide and conquer and its failed trickle down projects

Dan its your side that is full of hate

the labour spin machine is talking himself into denial

I consider Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott to be traitors. Their past actions were disgusting.

historical tittle tattle , bet you glad you didnt have a son serving the army at the time anxious or your views might be a littledifferent

the man is a traitor

lol traitors what fookin nonsense

Utter sh1te , unbelievable garbage , its yourselves that are embarrasing

sided with the terrorists , thats being a traitor against the british , disgrace

So nearly 12 million voted for a Traitor , ffs sure they did

probably 11.5 million dont know about the leaches past , students promised free university fees and handouts , sounds about right

Your view of history is pathetic nobody gives a sh1te about all this , its desperate stuff from the spiv fans

If you truly believe all this then you have lost the plot

Jan 16, 2019 -- 10:53PM, anxious wrote:

Your view of history is pathetic nobody gives a sh1te about all this , its desperate stuff from the spiv fans

i think you will find most do , serving past and present armed forces will and we will not let it go

as long as corbyn is in charge labour will never govern

So what if the armed forces believed whatever , are they the fountain of all knowledge

The truth about Corbyn's past treachery always riles up his fanboys. They want to hide his shameful behaviour from today's unaware youth.

The British government , army  all pased information to the loyalist death squads that resulted in the slaughter of thousands of innocent catholics

Thats the truth about the conflict , both sides were as bad as each other

Jan 16, 2019 -- 10:56PM, Torquemada wrote:

The truth about Corbyn's past treachery always riles up his fanboys. They want to hide his shameful behaviour from today's unaware youth.

here here

anxious
Again this is all historical tittle tattle , just another attempt by the tory lie machine and its cheerleaders to discredit him , as i said earlier the younger generation are not interested , they are interested in the their future and have rejected the Spiv divide and conquer and its failed trickle down projects

The epitome of desperation. I think I'll take a screenshot, print it then frame it and hang it on my wall.

We all owe a debt of gratitude to Britain's armed services. Anyone who denies that is either a deluded fool or has some sort of political agenda like the despicable Momentum.

Think John Woodcock nailed it today Corbyn and McDonnell not fit to lead this country

Jan 16, 2019 -- 10:58PM, anxious wrote:

Thats the truth about the conflict , both sides were as bad as each other

not sure loyalists bombed manchester , the brighton grand hotel , horseguards , parade etc etc

anxious most of the stuff I posted is from recent years.

Yes student fees, that was another beauty. Labour promised gullible young folk he'd pay off their student loans etc and didn't cost it, after the election they lost they did cost it and it was a HUGE figure they'd never have been to afford. 1£00 billion wasn't it?

https://order-order.com/2017/07/19/shadow-cabinet-minister-admits-not-possible-keep-student-promise/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4054494/labour-admit-they-have-no-plans-to-abolish-debt-run-up-by-graduates-despite-election-vow/

So lying b*stard Corbyn and Labour just lied to get votes promising something they could never fulfill. And that's a LABOUR shadow minister saying that.

Must be tory spiv lies ...

Didnt the uvf bomb Dublin , does that not count as murder too ?

Labour has always been great at spending somebody else's money.

John woodcock lol another fookin tory  lover , good riddance to the clown

The British government , army  all pased information to the loyalist death squads that resulted in the slaughter of thousands of innocent catholics


That statement just shows why your viewpoint is so flawed anxious. Three thousand people died in the troubles so where does THOUSANDS come from ? Yer full of it mate

John woodcock lol another fookin tory  lover , good riddance to the clown


Independent Labour MP. Glad to see your so tolerant with a different opinion

i think you need to go back to 1920 to read your history about Ireland dan

Anxious you sound like Baghdad bob

Plenty on here would vote Labour if it was a centre left party

No i just dont believe everything the Imperialst Capitlast Estabishment waffle on about

ok dan would you vote for Tony Blair then

Neil kinnock , micheal foot , ed miliband

you dont have to listen there are plenty of photos knocking about with corbyn adams and mcguiness floating about

I couldnt give a **** what he was doing with them

Jan 16, 2019 -- 11:06PM, anxious wrote:

ok dan would you vote for Tony Blair then

christ are there still guys like you knocking about , serious

i think you need to go back to 1920 to read your history about Ireland dan


Make your mind up, one minute your slating us for bringing up Corbyns historic support for terrorist organisations and now you want me to read the history of 1920's Ireland. One not being Irish I couldn't give a fxxk and two as a country we cant be blamed for what our ancestors did

Jan 16, 2019 -- 11:06PM, anxious wrote:

No i just dont believe everything the Imperialst Capitlast Estabishment waffle on about

for this quote  above answer

He said he would vote for a centre left labour leader , not that i believe that

Its all a smokescreen every labour leader has been subjected to personal attacks by the evil tory lie machine

anxious
i think you need to go back to 1920 to read your history about Ireland dan

What were they called back then anxious? A d can you name any atrocities they committed?

ok dan would you vote for Tony Blair then

I didn't but I never minded living under a New Labour government.

Anxious you're getting really desperate now.

No exactly because he was fooking tory

Imperialst Capitlast Estabishment

Loving that.

anxious if Cooper, Benn or Watson where leader I would seriously look at their policies. Tbf the Labour backbenchers are stronger than the Tories, shame their lead by a cxxt

The black and tans remember them ?

can you seriously  imagine corbyn and dianne abbot running this country , jesus wept

I will leave you to it guys , your hatred is very bitter and deep , take it easy

No exactly because he was fooking tory


100 people surveyed were asked "Which political party was Tony Blair was the leader of"

100 that was the top answer

keep da red flag flying herr anxious

Night night anxious dont let the barstewards grind you down

this is worse than football chat

Night night degsy our work here is done

For those that need a little reminder of the many horrific crimes of the hard left .. :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak

"According to data from Soviet archives, which were published only in 1990, 1,803,392 people were sent to labor colonies and camps in 1930 and 1931. Books based on these sources have said that 1,317,022 reached the destinations. The fate of the remaining 486,370 cannot be verified. Deportations on a smaller scale continued after 1931. The reported number of kulaks and their relatives who died in labor colonies from 1932–1940 was 389,521. Former kulaks and their families made up the majority of victims of the Great Purge of the late 1930s, with 669,929 arrested and 376,202 executed.[25]"

anxious only owns one cow !

I remember them anxious but they didn't murder thousands of innocent people.

Where as me I'm a regular Rowdy Yates !

The Kulaks are such a brilliant example of the total ****witted nature of communism and their hatred of successful people. You get 10 peasants. 2 are better farmers and the others, smarter, harder workers. They get a few more animals and expand to a little more land and a slightly nicer house. Next thing they are treated as class enemies and summary executed or carted off to a death camp. And russia wasn't a one off, same thing across east asia etc. The killing fields and so on, exact same.

The hard left are bitter angry faiures twitching to do over anyone who has done better than them, that's the basis of their system..

Agree JC dangerous cxxts

Extremists are dangerous....right or left....do not support them !

The same people who go on about remainers and project fear post all sorts of hysterical garbage about Corbyn. I'm going to post about gulags, it's very relevant and I am very smart!

Don’t trust remainers they don’t deserve to be trusted , likewise that weasel Corbyn

The Tory Party in the main and May to their credit have shown that they understand it is their duty to uphold the referendum result
Corbyn and Labour and others are determined to overthrow it , don’t trust vermin like that

It's easy to complain about the young and pretend that Labour/Corbyn appeal was only to them. It should be obvious to anyone that you don't make such gains with that only especially when a lot of the student vote is in areas already likely to be heavily Labour.

The polling suggests that other than AB voters, Labour were most popular with those aged 35-54. That's going to contain a lot of people who have kids in school or who may have just finished it. It could contain people who are still struggling to get onto an out of control housing market. On that, the Tories are getting smashed by people who rent where they live - a group that is only going to get bigger.

It's easy to see why people are dissatisfied but I guess the geniuses on here find it easier to just be all "LOL lefties only want free stuff!!11"

I know the likes of Torquemada like to think the young are just as ill informed as him but they have all seen the IRA stuff, it was plastered all over the media for months to diminishing returns. If people want to prioritise a culture war or historic things above policies that could impact their life for the better, it's on them. That's why poor whites keep voting Republican in the US then are upset when they lose their healthcare

You lot should keep going though. We saw how effective Remain, Clinton and May 2017 were in campaigns that basically consisted of how bad the other side is.

I'm willing to believe that ufcdan would vote Labour under a different leadership but everyone else in here is arguing in bad faith and should be ignored.

I still think Clive Lewis would be a good pick as a representative of "Corbynism" without Corbyn. He is much younger, a good communicator, doesn't have the baggage that Corbyn does. Being a former soldier should help his appeal for people who are into that.

Corbyn is very representative of labour , change him and the sort of people who would vote for him so that’s why we are in the mess we are in now
There are thousands of anti British elements within the Labour Party

Jan 17, 2019 -- 6:38AM, lfc1971 wrote:

The Tory Party in the main and May to their credit have shown that they understand it is their duty to uphold the referendum result Corbyn and Labour and others are determined to overthrow it , don’t trust vermin like that

It is amazing that the party with the working majority is going to try and spin their way out of this.

May basically alienated anyone not with a gov position, whichever way they voted! What does she deserve any credit for? That doesn't just include people like me, it includes people who want the type of Brexit that you do as well.

You’re not listening are you ? May is trying to leave the EU , Corbyn and labour (apart from 3 labour MPs to their credit )are determined to keep us in

Only in the strange world you are living in

there you go , that’s why you can’t trust remainers or Corbyn
They are completely unscrupulous

Again, back to the OP.
Can’t trust either.
May says she is doing a Brexit but she isn’t.
Corbyn can’t say what he will do.

As for Brexit nobody knows what it’ll be like if we leave and nobody knows what it’ll be like if we stay in.

People can only look to their own circumstances and of people they care about and vote on that basis.
Sometimes people become so convinced by ideology they have grown up with and go that way even though it might not be in their interests.
But as Mark Twain said if voting changed anything they wouldn’t let us do it.

^ you see that’s why we are in the mess we are , racing cert refuses to give credit where it’s due
May is trying to leave the EU , Corbyn is trying to keep us in
Put the blame where it lies , Corbyn and labour , they can’t be trusted

Not a fan of either, lfc.
May’s deal is a bad deal.
Credit to her for trying but she has failed.
As far as I am aware it was mostly those with govt jobs who voted for it, backbencher are against it.

Mays deal is a good deal and it gets us out of the EU , the people voted to leave the EU
That’s the important thing
Now you can dress it up any which way you like , Corbyn and labour are determined to keep us in

ps I am not particularly a fan of May either , but she at least to her eternal credit is trying to respect the democratic decision of the British people
Corbyn and labour and remainers are determined to overthrow that
No matter what happens never forgive that

Every vocal remainer hates Corbyn's fence sitting, be they someone who wants to stop Brexit or purely a second referendum.

The most vocal opposition has come from Tory mps and the most action in opposition has come from Tory mps

^ not true   , most tories voted for mays deal
3 labour MPs to their credit did also

That’s 3 labour MPs you can trust , not Corbyn

I think it’s a case from labour’s point of view of following Napoleon’s adage.

What’s that ?

Oh, lfc, you do disappoint me sometimes.
Never interfere with an enemy when he’s making a mistake.

never heard that one , thought you might have meant give me a lucky general rather than a good one

If only Napoleon was in charge now , I’m not sure May is lucky
But at least what she is trying to do is good and honourable and true

Yes. Well there is that one too.
And while you mention it May hasn’t been very lucky.
She has a poisoned chalice

Yes. She is a trier. But we need more than that to sort out the mess.

Corbyn and Labour and liberals and snp and remainers have poisoned it , yes

When this is finished , however it ends , the shame of that will remain

The MPs who voted for the referendum and article 50 should be working together.
So that perhaps absolves the nats.

The SNP are hypocrites, we will see how they react if after voting to leave the UK they are told sorry, you are not leaving we will have to look at this again and possibly have a peoples referendum ...