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Andy Murray - Greatest British Sportsman of all Time

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By:
edy
When: 13 Jan 19 01:14
Ok, lfc.

Marita Koch
By:
edy
When: 13 Jan 19 01:15
Your turn.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 01:16
Alex Higgins
By:
edy
When: 13 Jan 19 01:17
It's been a while since I learned how to count, but on a quick estimate that doesn't look like a hundred.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 01:19
I could name a hundred great snooker players alone , any german snooker players ?
By:
edy
When: 13 Jan 19 01:20
I thought we were talking sports.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 01:20
Yes that’s what I said , Britain is good at all sports , Germany is not
By:
edy
When: 13 Jan 19 01:22
Please, Britain has never even won the men's fisting World Championships.
By:
edy
When: 13 Jan 19 01:23
Sorry, apparently it's called Fistball in English. That kinda got lost in translation in my previous post.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 01:24
Of course we invented most sports as well, Germany ever invent anything like that ? I don’t know
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 01:26
Ok a hundred great British sportspeople for ever one german might be a slight exaggeration ,
But not by much
By:
edy
When: 13 Jan 19 01:27
There must be about a thousand great German winter athletes for every great British winter athlete.

...but I won't bother writing them all down even if you throw Eddie the Eagle at me.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 01:29
really , I doubt there’s anyone as good as John curry or Torvill and Dean
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 01:31
How many golf majors from Germany ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 01:31
Britain has a hundred great golfers for every one german   , for example
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 01:33
Athletes ?  Anyone as good as Coe and Ovett ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 01:33
Nite nite
By:
edy
When: 13 Jan 19 01:38
Good night, dear. Sleep well :)
By:
dustybin
When: 13 Jan 19 10:07
Yeah Phil Taylor conquered his sport to a far greater degree than Murray did his.
It’s not even worth looking it up because the number of comps Taylor won trounces Murray’s.
Taylor was like the klitschko of boxing, dominated for over a decade, Murray was briefly world number 1.

As for the bbc sports personality of the year joke, the person who wins that generally is the one given air time on that channel, and since bbc only covered amateur darts, Taylor didn’t get much air time after going professional.
The bbc are pretty shameless, they sold off the family silver and pretend the only sport that matters are the things they still show, they flirt with formula 1, got a bit of tennis now and then, snooker sometimes, cover cricket on the bloody radio and athletic egg and spoon rubbish.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 10:14
Tennis is a much greater sport than darts ( if darts even is a sport )
That’s the difference  , I’m sure there is a tiddly wink champion as well ( probably British )
By:
dustybin
When: 13 Jan 19 10:19
Whatever your personal perception of the game is it doesn’t alter the fact everyone is trying to win at it.
Taylor just bounced em off the walls for years on end nobody could get near him because he practised so much
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 10:22
Yes that’s true , but it’s darts so there’s no getting away from that
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 10:23
there is something glorious about being the heavyweight champion of the world , in boxing

but not in darts , sorry
By:
dustybin
When: 13 Jan 19 10:52
I remember what Taylor used to say to critics who said disparaging things about darts.
He’d say, well if it’s just a hobby then I shouldn’t be paying any tax.

When the reality was that he paid loads of tax by beating all comers that went to fund the lifestyles of athletes that the bbc then fawn over.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 13 Jan 19 10:55
Nick Faldo has won twice as many majors as Murray.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 11:03
Yes , although while winning a golf major is very difficult it is not quite as difficult as wining a tennis major

some  quite average golfers have won a major
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 11:04
Faldo is up there certainly , but Murrys achievements might be slightly greater
By:
detraveller
When: 13 Jan 19 11:06

Jan 12, 2019 -- 6:56PM, the bairn wrote:


detraveller, you conveniently, [to appease the English I suppose, to keep in with them.] 2 Olympic gold medals and a Davis cup medal. no drugs or drink to help him either. oh, and Sports personality of the year 3 times, never be done again, truly and easily the greatest sportsman Great Britain has ever produced. cheers.


I knew he won those but left them out because they really don't support the argument I am trying to make. When you talk of Schumacher and Graf, you can easily say most F1 races won, most grandslams won(i know she's been taken over now) but both won't need the support of what other tournaments they won. They have a claim at being the greatest in their sport without anyone listing the different kind of tournaments they won.

As lfc mentions, Britain has been good at greater number of sports. Britain is good at all sports , more than any other country in the world  and has more great sportsmen, women over a greater range of sports than any other country , that is the difference between Britain and a country such as Germany for example This was also my impression, for whatever reasons. Which is why when I googled the term, I was expecting some world famous names to pop up. And was surprised Murray, with his 3 slams, 2 olympics and a davis cup was cosnidered the top!

The fact that you had to remind me that the greatest british sportsman ever won 2 olympic golds and a davis cup(I don't even know what that is) as well, supports exactly what I was saying. And that he is your greatest sportsman ever again sounds funny.

By:
The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE
When: 13 Jan 19 11:06
I'm thinking Britain must have some athletes,soccer,rugby and cricket players that have achieved more in their sport than Murray? Surely? Racing car drivers? COME ON!!! I can't believe that a bloke that won 3 Tennis Opens is the greatest British sportsman of all time. An Australian sportsman with 3 Tennis Opens to his credit would be lucky to get in the Top 50.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 11:08
It’s not always about numbers  , is Jim Clark the greatest of all formula 1 drivers ? possibly
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 11:09
Australia are good at sport , but not as good as Britain

No country in the world is as good as Britain
By:
detraveller
When: 13 Jan 19 11:13
I am not taking the bait lfc. All you need need to know is that it rained in Bradford tomorrow. That's all. And maybe will take a couple more years to complete. Have a nice day.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 11:16
The rain it raineth every day , Shakespeare said that

We have the greatest writers as well
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 11:17
and more of them
By:
The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE
When: 13 Jan 19 11:18
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING THESE LAST FOUR DECADES!!!

Australia's GREATEST EVER halfback never toured with the 1984 Grand Slam winning Wallabies because he was stuck at home watching on TV and SEETHING!! How do I know? Because I am that man. The best halfback in the history of Australian Rugby THWARTED at every turn by biased ignorant selectors who cared more for their own integrity than my Rugby career. I'll never forgive those agents of evil that FORCED me to play for Kings Old Boys 3rd XV at a time when anyone who knew anything about Rugby agreed I should have been there at Twickenham firing bullets at Michael Lynagh. It's all about perception. And who you know.
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 11:20
Quite right kamikaze , and you can be thankful to Britain that you were able to watch tv in the outback

We invented that as well as rugby and cricket
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Jan 19 11:22
no one likes to be thankful : (
By:
dustybin
When: 13 Jan 19 11:22
There’s seems to be an assumption that achievements are greater the more they are inclined to be athletic.
Strength and fitness will get defeated by skill.
Ability is a combination of all these things but I’d take skill all day long.

I remember when young I thought I was pretty good at badminton. I was fit and beat most of the people I played.
Then one day I just happen to play the kid who was playing for his county, he was small and didn’t look particularly strong, but he had me running around the court like an idiot and he barely moved off the spot and I don’t think I scored more than a few points.
By:
The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE
When: 13 Jan 19 11:22
"Australia are good at sport , but not as good as Britain

No country in the world is as good as Britain"




You need to put one of those smiley faces here so people don't think you're serious!
By:
JML
When: 13 Jan 19 11:22
I remember what Taylor used to say to critics who said disparaging things about darts.
He’d say, well if it’s just a hobby then I shouldn’t be paying any tax.

Strange thing to say--I don't get the logic behind it.

When deciding the greatest sportsman you have to take into account the Worldwide appeal
Darts is predminantly a game played in British pubs so it's much easier to reach the top than in a sport like tennis.

It's difficult to think of any other Brit who had greater dominance in a Worldwide sport than
Adam Peaty.
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