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casemoney
04 Jan 19 17:37
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Man killed on a Train aged 50  ,Massive manhunt , is there a description ?
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Report scandanavian_haven January 4, 2019 10:26 PM GMT
mouse by name, mouse by natureGrin
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 4, 2019 10:39 PM GMT
Mouse, you would have been right to have been afraid, I saw a knife fight once in a nightclub in the 80s and it was the most frightening thing I have seen, both survived btw.!!
Report kenny mann January 4, 2019 10:40 PM GMT
he's on his way to Bradford, they'll never find him. Scared
Report lockup January 4, 2019 10:56 PM GMT
and then we will find out he comes from a broken home has adhd, bi-polar disorder and a mental disorder and will get 5 yrs in a psycho hotel.
Report blackbarn January 4, 2019 10:57 PM GMT
Terrible incident. Some strange responses to this on here.   What does this one mean????

"he's on his way to Bradford, they'll never find him"
Report mouse muldoon January 4, 2019 10:58 PM GMT
He knows a secret tunnel between Surrey and W Yorks.
Report kenny mann January 4, 2019 10:58 PM GMT
what the hell do you think!
Report mouse muldoon January 4, 2019 10:59 PM GMT
Approx 200 miles.
Report mouse muldoon January 4, 2019 10:59 PM GMT
Britain's longest secret tunnel.
Report mouse muldoon January 4, 2019 10:59 PM GMT
Not sure how that can be verified.
Report kenny mann January 4, 2019 11:01 PM GMT
whereas if he was on his way to where blackbarn lives he'd be arrested within 10 minutes.
Report blackbarn January 4, 2019 11:02 PM GMT
Kenny - is it you at this late hour?

If yes, what does "he's on his way to Bradford, they'll never find him" mean in this context.
Report kenny mann January 4, 2019 11:08 PM GMT
I retire at 2am, blackbarn.

I think you're pretending to be naive, but if not the answer is that we're swamped with non indigenous people, so it will be easy for him to blend in.
Report mouse muldoon January 4, 2019 11:11 PM GMT
Can he do the accent?
Report kenny mann January 4, 2019 11:12 PM GMT
Oh yes mate, there's 100's to choose from.
Report casemoney January 5, 2019 12:04 AM GMT
Why have no Images been put up  , As shaven says there must be Images ,this Man who ever or what ever he is ,is a Danger to
anyone ,Someone will be Able to ID him ,I don't want to say it, but he Could be a day release case. At Least if the Old Bill
have an Idea what they are dealing with ,that would be a Start ?
Report Baphornet January 5, 2019 8:47 AM GMT
my toes never tingle for nothing. They apparently started arguing within minutes of getting aboard train. 5 minutes later he left the train after the butcheng. Arrested in Farnham btw
Report posy January 5, 2019 9:11 AM GMT
Appears police have got him
Report Baphornet January 5, 2019 9:33 AM GMT
look above posy
Report scandanavian_haven January 5, 2019 9:44 AM GMT
Police have arrested two people in Farnham.
Report Baphornet January 5, 2019 9:53 AM GMT
i must be invisible
Report Mikael D'Haguenet January 5, 2019 9:55 AM GMT
Sounds like they've got their man according to reports I'm hearing.
Report scandanavian_haven January 5, 2019 10:00 AM GMT
Laugh
Report Injera January 5, 2019 10:08 AM GMT
Detective Chief Inspector Sam Blackburn from British Transport Police said today:

'The investigation is moving with good progress and we are now confident to say that this is not believed to be a random assault.'

What???? So it's ok that they were arguing first?Crazy
Report alun2005 January 5, 2019 11:28 AM GMT
The police took HOURS to issue a description of ANY kind, despite plenty of eye witness evidence. They thus allow him to run amok for hours, and for all they knew putting lives in massive danger. In the meantime he had the opportunity to meet with someone who has subsequently been arrested with 'assisting an offender'.

It's another example of extraordinarily misplaced police priorities. The criminal's freedom to commit carnage was placed AHEAD of the public's safety, for which there must be a full and frank explanation. If Flabbott is ANY sort of Shadow Home Secretary, this must be top of her agenda.

The police are quick enough the it comes to Tweeting and/or creating website postings of them attending Gay Pride and LGBQTUVWXYZ type events, posing for ludicrous photos which completely undermine their credibility. Why are they so afraid of issuing prompt and accurate descriptions of dangerous criminals?
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 5, 2019 11:41 AM GMT
The problem is alun nothing will be said about their failings to follow procedure, any decent person would want these issues raised in government asap.
Report Injera January 5, 2019 11:46 AM GMT
Plod are probably told NOT to issue descriptions.

The cover ups regarding Rotherham etc etc told us all we need to know about the where Police priorities lie.

Notice yet again that although the victim may well have been white, there is no outcry over 'racism'.
Report posy January 5, 2019 1:07 PM GMT
Bl oody hell are you suggesting that the police should issue a description saying that the murderer on the loose is actually BLACK....you can't do that in this country;it's totally unacceptable. For god's sake if you'd done that straight away at Clandon someone might have reported seeing him and telling the police which way he went.
Report RLKingPunter January 5, 2019 1:09 PM GMT
So is this gonna be called a racist murder ? and if not why not ?
Report fife January 5, 2019 1:28 PM GMT
Unless you know something we don't why would it be called a racist murder at this stage?.
Report moisok January 5, 2019 1:39 PM GMT
they were quick enough to post the two morons over the so called 'drone' incident who oddly were guess what  W...e - but more interestingly INNOCENT   - THEY WERE ALL OVER THE PAPERS ETC ETC - MORONS TO BOOT  HO HO

But never publish a photo of the others eh??  got to be fair  ha fkn ha ha  - ray cyst police - never - shirly knott -  although didn't they once say the police were institutionally ray cyst - I think this proves it many times over - but not what they actually meant  - now it turns out to be the other way round

no no never  - I must be seeing things - time for my tablets - sorry to take up your time with such a ridiculous Idea  -Grin
Report impossible123 January 5, 2019 1:43 PM GMT
About 15 years ago I was a witness to a robbery-in-progress at a local petrol pump just after I pulled up; the Securicor bloke was coshed as he walked round the left rear of his van towards the entrance - it was so surreal. I dialled 999, but at no time was I asked if the robber was black; the lady asked many questions eg their attire; any accomplice; vehicle and where they headed off? But at no time did she ask if the robber was black; it would not have helped as he was wearing a balaclava. But CID did when they interviewed me later back at the petrol.

I think the authorities will not specify in public the colour or ethnicity of the perpetrator.
Report themightymac January 5, 2019 1:57 PM GMT
It was all over the news last night that they were looking for a Black man aged 20-30.

Glad they have got him. Feel sorry for the young lad having to witness that at such a young age.
Report alun2005 January 5, 2019 2:27 PM GMT
A statement made through BTP about the murder victim. 

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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/surrey-train-stabbing-victim-named-124140529.html?.tsrc=bell-brknews


I can't wait to discover "the Defence" for why the perpetrator was armed.
Report Get me a drink January 5, 2019 2:32 PM GMT
If, God forbid, a white guy attacks a person of colour, the first and only conclusion our lovely leftist apologists come to is that it's a racist attack, but never the other way around. What they fail to realise is that this attitude makes them the racists.
Report Get me a drink January 5, 2019 2:34 PM GMT
It also reveals a hidden agenda which becomes clearer as time goes by.
Report mouse muldoon January 5, 2019 2:57 PM GMT
I'd assume it was because he'd raped the white guy's wife.
Report lux January 5, 2019 3:44 PM GMT
Trevor Philips interview from last month, nails it...

Trevor Phillips said that "white liberals" need to stop "hand-wringing" and admit the truth that the wave of knife crime is black children killing black children...

The deaths are taking place in the semi-ghettos of Britain's big cities which are home to refugees many of whom are traumatised by the warfare that they have escaped and feel a sense of belonging by joining gangs, he said...

Adding: "So the forlorn attempts by politicians and media to ignore this truth - to avoid 'stigmatising' minority communities - has been counterproductive, a hand-wringing dereliction of responsibility.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/11/policefighting-knife-violence-should-exempt-race-discrimination/
Report lfc1971 January 5, 2019 4:01 PM GMT
seems like too much trouble , shouldn’t have let them into Britain in the first place
Report Injera January 5, 2019 4:11 PM GMT
I've posted this before..Black Fathers Matter. 5 minutes.

The question is asked, which poses the bigger threat to the Black Community, racism or absent fathers...?

https://youtu.be/FszQelEQ2KY
Report lfc1971 January 5, 2019 4:26 PM GMT
Headline yesterday in George osbournes Evening Standard Race Hate Thugs let off the hook

Racist offenders in London escaping punishment for hate crimes because police are failing to pursue their cases properly a top prosecutor has warned
Report lfc1971 January 5, 2019 4:41 PM GMT
How drug dealing gangs are taking over the countryside ..
Det insp Bremner told how about 40% of county line dealers travel into his area by train and said
“ they are predominately black males of Somali or Afro Caribbean origin aged 14 and upwards “

One dealer identified was a 6ft 2 violent 16 year old boy “ a local dealer was beaten to a pulp with a hammer and machete , a strike away from a murder
Report Injera January 5, 2019 5:10 PM GMT
Arrested couple not named or photographed??
Report moisok January 5, 2019 7:45 PM GMT
WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS AND HELICOPTER PLUS BBC JOURNOS THERE AS THE COPS GO IN
Report dambuster January 6, 2019 4:26 PM GMT
I don't think Europe is that far away from taking matters into its own hands, then the handwringers and socialist lefties will all be running around looking for someone to blame when its all to late..
Well, lets hope so anyway.
Report Baphornet January 6, 2019 4:46 PM GMT
Europe Dambuster? That would be without the UK of course? We don't protest or riot like the the French anyway. Strange when you think of just who stood up to the fascism 80 years ago, when the French were opening restaurants and legs on June 14th to the oncoming Wehrmacht
the lethargy even on this forum is a mirror of todays total apathy
Report Injera January 6, 2019 5:07 PM GMT
Suspect and accomplice named yet? Or athey waiting for some story about mean racist tweets to deflect peoples' attention first?

I see the poor man's wife is Russian and believed England was a safer place to set up home....

So where's the debate about our multicultural, diverse, cosmopolitan sh*thole?
Report Baphornet January 6, 2019 5:11 PM GMT
see above, Injera
Report moisok January 6, 2019 6:27 PM GMT
little khan's 900 elves are listening and just waiting for you to say the wrong M or I or diaspora critical comment.
Report moisok January 6, 2019 6:29 PM GMT
ps
I am sorry but I no longer treat any of this with any sense of seriousness and actually laugh when the polis, press, tv try to avoid the bl££ding obvious.  It is pathetic.
Report moisok January 6, 2019 6:55 PM GMT
bbc london - news over lessees and landlords - you only need to look and see what has happened to Landan
Report moisok January 6, 2019 6:56 PM GMT
however --- real madrid 0  1 down  and have a red card

happy days
Report treetop January 6, 2019 8:59 PM GMT
Await the discussion on Victoria Debyshire BBC2 tomorrow,deflections and distractions to the problem.
Report tictacman1 January 6, 2019 8:59 PM GMT
Police have been given more time to question a man and woman arrested over the killing of Lee Pomeroy on a train.

A 35-year-old suspect was held after a manhunt led police to a flat in Farnham, Surrey, in the early hours of Saturday morning.

British Transport Police said they had been given another 12 hours to question the man and woman, 27, who is accused of assisting an offender
Report Aspro January 6, 2019 9:23 PM GMT
A man has been charged with murder after a father was stabbed to death in front of his son on a train.
Darren Pencille, 35, of Willbury Road, Farnham, is accused of killing Lee Pomeroy, 51, on a Guildford to London train on Friday.
Chelsea Mitchell, 27, also of Willbury Road, has been charged with assisting an offender.
Both have been remanded in custody to appear at Staines Magistrates' Court on Monday.
Report Aspro January 6, 2019 9:24 PM GMT
BBC - 1 min ago
Report moisok January 6, 2019 9:25 PM GMT
DARREN  ho ho you sure?
Report mouse muldoon January 6, 2019 9:26 PM GMT
He doesn't sound like the sharpest.
Report scandanavian_haven January 6, 2019 9:36 PM GMT
who?
Report mouse muldoon January 6, 2019 9:40 PM GMT
Mr Pencille
Report scandanavian_haven January 6, 2019 9:41 PM GMT
I wasn't sharp enough to get thatSad
Report mouse muldoon January 6, 2019 9:44 PM GMT
Pointless joke anyway.
Report moisok January 6, 2019 9:46 PM GMT
pr!cks  - well it would be if they jab you with one
Report mouse muldoon January 6, 2019 9:48 PM GMT
Have they released a sketch of him?
Report RLKingPunter January 6, 2019 9:56 PM GMT
going down like a LEAD balloon
Report mouse muldoon January 6, 2019 9:57 PM GMT
I retract it all.
Report CLYDEBANK29 January 6, 2019 9:58 PM GMT
reports say the attack wasn't random?
Report mouse muldoon January 6, 2019 10:00 PM GMT
Silly of him to think he wouldn't leave a trace.
Report moisok January 6, 2019 10:00 PM GMT
we weren't there and they will produce all sorts of sh!te to fit whatever narrative they want to send out

deceit - is a lovely descriptive word
Report scandanavian_haven January 6, 2019 10:05 PM GMT
They will eventually release CCTV footage inside the train.
Report saddo January 6, 2019 10:58 PM GMT
There's a guy with that name runs 'Speciality services' who offer 'Bodyguarding and Close contact services'. Coincidence?
Report mouse muldoon January 6, 2019 11:01 PM GMT
Would you trust plod to join the dots?
Report alun2005 January 7, 2019 12:00 AM GMT
I'm sure this horror story is all a big silly old misunderstanding. There must surely be a perfectly legitimate reason why an individual felt entitled to go out armed with a knife and at liberty to be able to kill an innocent man on a train in broad daylight in full public view. After all, going out with knives and killing all and sundry is an everyday, part and parcel feature of living in Khan's Vibrant London. Right?
Report moisok January 7, 2019 12:07 AM GMT
ALUN  - you are just an ignorant jackboot wearing brownshirt - you simply do not understand the pressures people live under.

If you can't make it, you have to take it,  and the system will even give you money to maintain your useless lifestyle.

Now shut up and get with the programme while the rest of us make money on soccerball

barca  1 -2   win   RESULT YES!!!!
Report alun2005 January 7, 2019 1:45 PM GMT
The accused has appeared in court this morning, where The Majesty of the UK Judicial System is already on full display.

Addressing the court, Mr Pencille said: "Innocent until proven guilty," adding: "I'm paranoid. I'm hearing voices."

Episode 2 scheduled for this afternoon in Guildford.

.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-46783061
Report howard January 7, 2019 2:00 PM GMT
If the Russian wife thought Britain was safe think again. Do not get into arguments with strangers you don't know what you are dealing with. In this case if the accused was causing trouble go to speak with the train guard.
Report detraveller January 7, 2019 2:03 PM GMT
There's an NBA player in the news who's refused to play in London for security reasons I think. Something like that.
Report asparagus January 7, 2019 2:33 PM GMT
I few of the right wing loons on here embarrassing themselves again i see.
Report mouse muldoon January 7, 2019 2:51 PM GMT
It keeps them of the streets.
Report posy January 7, 2019 3:18 PM GMT
Pity we citizens don't take the law into our own hands to deal with the detritus washed up on our shores...A few exemplary lynchings of anyone caught carrying a weapon followed by a couple of days amnesty to hand them in would soon sort the problem.
Report Baphornet January 7, 2019 3:20 PM GMT
a knife amnesty - to my untrained eye; was one of the strangest things i've ever seen in this country
Report saddo January 7, 2019 3:28 PM GMT
A small percentage of the population carry out a hugely disproportionate amount of knife crime and murder but it is 'right wing' to talk about it. That's why we are where we are. Crazy
Report Baphornet January 7, 2019 3:34 PM GMT
i'm pretty sure 'right-wingers' whatever that means; would be blamed by the Mainstream Media for the recent events on Emmerdale, if the plot fitted
Report Injera January 7, 2019 4:04 PM GMT
White man butchered on a train by black man. No menton of racism.

14 year old white girl raped by British Pakistani in Burnley. No mention of racism.

Islamic knife attack in Manchester. No mention of racism.

It's almost like they have an agenda..
Report alun2005 January 7, 2019 4:09 PM GMT
Good luck btw the staff of the courts at Guilford this afternoon who have to keep straight faces and be sure not to upset any special persons while this pantomime continues.

This will surely be another case in that ever-expanding portfolio where the Human Rights of any persons found guilty will be treated with greater sensitivity than those of the deceased.
Report Baphornet January 7, 2019 4:11 PM GMT
thanks for using that awful word at the top, Injera; it needs repeating
Report CLYDEBANK29 January 7, 2019 5:49 PM GMT
"White man butchered on a train by black man. No menton of racism.

14 year old white girl raped by British Pakistani in Burnley. No mention of racism.

Islamic knife attack in Manchester. No mention of racism.

It's almost like they have an agenda.."


Don't go posting stuff like that Injera.  You'll upset the hypocritical luvvies
Report fool proof January 7, 2019 6:39 PM GMT
asparagus 07 Jan 19 14:33 Joined: 11 Jul 06 | Topic/replies: 3,273 | Blogger: asparagus's blog
I few of the right wing loons on here embarrassing themselves again i see.

I would much rather share a train carriage with anyone posting here than a mentally ill immigrant
Report Injera January 7, 2019 6:41 PM GMT
The truest word spoken right there...
Report dave1357 January 7, 2019 6:44 PM GMT
it's hardly a glowing endorsement
Report The Leopard January 7, 2019 10:17 PM GMT
Pencil.....alleged killer.....crouched in dock......"I'm paranoid"......FO !!!!!
Report moisok January 7, 2019 10:28 PM GMT
they all seem to have a terrible rate of mental illness - it is very sad - but they will be well looked after - might even be unfit to plead and the go through the wonderful caring system we have for them - good move
Report mouse muldoon January 7, 2019 10:31 PM GMT
The Farnhamese?
Report mouse muldoon January 7, 2019 10:36 PM GMT
I suppose that's why they call it the funny farnham.
Report Baphornet January 7, 2019 10:39 PM GMT
hiding in the dock because of the press coverage yet (allegedly) butchers a man in front of his son in open view of a train full of people; doesn't collate to me
Report The Leopard January 7, 2019 11:36 PM GMT
He may have heard voices telling him to kill the victim.
Report The Leopard January 7, 2019 11:37 PM GMT
Cannabis schizophrenia
Report Baphornet January 7, 2019 11:45 PM GMT
yes; the defence team is already alive & kicking. Perhaps they were the voices in his head this creature was talking about
Report moisok January 8, 2019 1:05 AM GMT
nice soft spell in a nice bed in hospital - well guarded too - well looked after - released later
Report moisok January 8, 2019 1:06 AM GMT
wonder how he would be dealt with in his own culture?  and do not tell me he is british - mind you, anyone can be british these days
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