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samosi
02 Jan 19 14:19
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Really....To be unusual to the extreme....Really

https://news.sky.com/story/girl-14-raped-outside-burnley-shopping-centre-on-new-years-day-11596703

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By:
moisok
When: 02 Jan 19 14:21
GLAD to hear it's rare

how about the large number of imported crimes/criminals that could have been avoided

instead we keep letting them in
By:
Injera
When: 02 Jan 19 14:25
Not rare in Newcastle:

'Newcastle grooming gangs were allowed to abuse 700 girls because police blamed the victims, review finds.'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/23/newcastle-grooming-gangs-acted-arrogant-persistence-serious/
By:
casemoney
When: 02 Jan 19 14:26
Not rare , we had reports of Thousands of Girls being Molested over the Past 10/15 year ...
By:
moisok
When: 02 Jan 19 14:30
and of course many are from within  - although it is not a good career move to mention it

the more the merrier - for them

the demographic is hard at work
By:
samosi
When: 02 Jan 19 14:35
I think Detective Inspector Tim McDermott needs to make a public apology and  explain  why he states, "We would like to reassure the public that incidents of this type are rare,

Or  does  he  mean these types of incidents are  Rare  on  New  Years Day,he  needs to be  more specific.
I know our Police force have a very hard time and work under a lot of pressure, but you cannot lie about what the public know.
By:
alun2005
When: 02 Jan 19 15:06
An extraordinary and brazen falsehood from the Police. They seem completely unaware of the 'industrial scale' rape of sexually-underaged white girls and young women in the Lancashire Constabulary area itself, let alone Britain as a whole. The most routine of Google searches quickly exposes rape gangs across a wide range of Lancashire towns. 

The Home Office should immediately step in, suspending anyone involved in drafting this astonishing and ludicrous 'reassuring' statement. They are clearly unfit to be employed in their current capacity.

If I was a 'Defence' lawyer, I would be looking to re-open any prosecutions and 'Guilty' verdicts in cases involving police staff responsible for making this utterly absurd public statement.

We are just 2 days into 2019, and already the Police departments of North West England are looking completely out of touch with reality.
By:
casemoney
When: 02 Jan 19 15:09
looking completely out of touch with reality

They Know its the Same old Song Alun , They just pretend they Dont .
By:
moisok
When: 02 Jan 19 15:31
the elves are far too busy sat behind their desks listening
By:
woundedknee
When: 02 Jan 19 17:02
Old bill more concerned at what the scousers are gonna shout at Sterling tonight  SadSad  what a fcking sad state this gaff is now
By:
moisok
When: 02 Jan 19 17:45
they got the three who raped that poor girl - again up north - anyone arrested?
By:
woundedknee
When: 02 Jan 19 17:50
THE 3 MOHAMMEDS ?
By:
impossible123
When: 02 Jan 19 18:31
When a police officer puts out a statement like that I think it is time the public take note. Can anyone still remember what happened when representatives of banks issued a similar statement eg Northern Rock, Bradford and Bingley, RBS, etc?
By:
moisok
When: 02 Jan 19 18:33
I don't know why doncaster sticks in my mind about the three - but there were never any descriptions?  But it was on a country ish area  - a walkway   any one remember it
By:
samosi
When: 02 Jan 19 21:01
Cllr Mark Townsend, leader of Burnley Council, said: “This is obviously an appalling incident.

"The police are right these types of incidents are rare but it does not make it any easier for the victim."

Police and Council Both describing it as a rare incident, DeJa Vu.

Oh by the way, They arrested someone.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/17331063.arrest-made-in-burnley-town-centre-teen-rape-investigation/
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 02 Jan 19 22:13
Not rare enough for this victim...she has my commiserations.

I hope they have arrested the right man, he needs to be caught and locked up whatever his nationality.
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Jan 19 02:08
You guys are missing the point. An average human is going to see a day like the New year's day only once a year, let's say about 60-70 times in his lifetime. TO be then raped on that same day, i'd say the probability will be much much lower. Probably that's what the police is referring to.

On a more serious note, the police and the government are adjusting very well to the reality. The public is not, but that won't matter with the demographics. One day, all of a sudden, it will be too late.
By:
Injera
When: 03 Jan 19 08:17
I've kept looking for the '3' who gang raped that poor lady on a canal path.

The Huddersfield Examiner covered it but no updates for weeks.

Plod asked for the public's help but refused to give out descriptions. So how exactly are people supposed to help then...?
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 03 Jan 19 13:13
I agree Injera

An accurate description of the suspect is required or how can anybody identify themCrazy

Ethnic and Nationality sensistivities are not important in identification.

The police are there to CATCH CRIMINALS and that is hard enough, do not increase their burden.

Problems with Ethnicities and Nationalities are a problem that has to be dealt with by society  elsewhere if it is needed.

POLICE CATCH CRIMINALS...that is all.
By:
moisok
When: 03 Jan 19 13:37
but surely the girl who was raped by THREE of them would have been able to give a description clothes smells, were they smokers (you can tell)  beards, clean shaven, oh and colour - any accents    etc etc etc  - so what is being kept away from the public exactly?
By:
Injera
When: 04 Jan 19 09:31
Burnley attacker arrested. The 'tanned' one has been named as  Nassar Iqbal, 30, of Castle Street in Brierfield, Nelson, had been charged with rape, sexual assault and robbery.
By:
Get me a drink
When: 04 Jan 19 10:24
Yes, but what will his sentence be if convicted?

He'll be quietly loosed out after a remarkably short time, imo. Sad

Sadly, authorities are racist as race of victims and perps obviously does matter to them.
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jan 19 10:53
After plenty of time to Study the Holy Book he will be returned to Society a new man .
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 04 Jan 19 12:45
Looking at the culprit's name

The police could have given a clearer identification

Now they have him, they will matched his DNA to rape victim, so there was little chance of anyone being wrongfully convicted
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 04 Jan 19 12:47
a new man?

sb less of a man, minus 2 parts of his body he went in with imo
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 04 Jan 19 13:24
not a lot of anaesthetic used for this oneShocked
By:
moisok
When: 04 Jan 19 13:52
you have big problems in understanding this

some empathy is needed

one has to follow the instruction book or one would be in trouble for not doing so
By:
alun2005
When: 04 Jan 19 16:22
No news in just yet about the levels of tanning of 'the suspect' in the fatal stabbing in broad daylight on a train at Horsley Station in Surrey today.

Maybe British Transport/Surrey Police are going to a Tanning Salon to get the best and most accurate tan description before they make a public statement?
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 04 Jan 19 18:32
Another rare incident...depends what you think is rare I suppose

No more than one a day?
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jan 19 18:39
Didnt know was on Here Alun , Massive Manhunt in progress , NO DESCRIPTION
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jan 19 18:41
If you lived in the Fooking Area would it not be handy to have an Idea what the Knifeman  might look like Plain
By:
moisok
When: 04 Jan 19 19:16
CASE  you are really ignorant - why go stirring it up by giving a description - the knuckle dragging racists would be all over it

and let's have a bit of empathy for these poor chaps who lose their temper when under pressure

thank you
By:
alun2005
When: 04 Jan 19 19:24
They've had HOURS to issue even the most rudimentary description of the wanted knifeman. Have they NO concern or respect for public safety?
By:
ufcdan
When: 04 Jan 19 20:42
Dont the authorities, politicians etc etc see the more and more they continue to try to brush things under the carpet the more likely it is to lead to large scale civil unrest. Some on here seem to focus on certain minorities regarding rape. For me all rapists are n0unces and need to be banged up, so if the perpetrator is white, Asian, black or Chinese etc etc I want an accurate descriptionAngry
By:
impossible123
When: 04 Jan 19 21:09
I agree. I think authorities ought to be more specific about the description of suspect/assailant. For instance the perpetrators of grooming vulnerable young white girls; cash for crash; nail bar slavery; knife crimes; online fraud; etc.

If the main perpetrators of the above crimes were made known the general public and possible victims would be more aware and careful in the future. I believe the political correctness has been overdone and counterproductive, and is a dis-service to the general public at present.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 04 Jan 19 21:48
I totally agree ufcdan and other posters.

The police catch criminals that is all, problems with ethnicity or nationality need to be dealt with by others.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 04 Jan 19 21:56
I think sex and/or violent  criminals can come from all races or religions.

If there a preponderance from any one race/religion....this is a problem society

needs to deal with and find the reason, not necessarily the police though.


We need honesty.


Everybody in this country needs to be treated with equal justice, which means any race/religion  are neither excessively

blamed nor excessively excused.
By:
moisok
When: 05 Jan 19 19:52
You lot live in dream land and are so naive
By:
impossible123
When: 05 Jan 19 20:02
I'd treat crimes like diseases ie target the causes and the remedy will follow, simple. If it means rubbing someone's nose up the wrong way tough, the end result is paramount.
By:
moisok
When: 05 Jan 19 20:47
not going to happen - the politicaians, politicos/civil service - in fact what one would call the establishmen - judiciary, CPS etc have sold out to another force.
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