Why are the left so full of hate ?

Dan does have a good point. The left ALWAYS implodes.

i don't think it's the British that Abbott hates


No.............funny way of showing it supporting those that carried out a bombing campaign against this country

something feels like it is missing from studies rambling , and Charlie’s silence

like an apology ...

I offered STUDYFORM an olive branch on another thread by forgiving him over the lies he wrote about me.

And how did he respond? He simply insulted me.

Apologies lfc I must have the wrong thread and you really love the Irish but for a start:

lfc1971 • November 5, 2018 8:07 PM GMT
now you’re being dishonest aren’t you ?
I said I didn’t like the Irish , I don’t

lfc1971 • November 5, 2018 8:17 PM GMT
They can be very bigoted and aggressive and violent and opinionated as much or moreso than most
That’s how it is

lfc1971 • November 5, 2018 8:42 PM GMT
You see that might be one of the reasons I don’t like the Irish
I don’t know

lfc1971 • November 9, 2018 9:43 PM GMT
Their cowardly and treacherous behaviour  during that war when Britain was in peril and fighting against the evils of Hitler’s Germany should never be forgotten or forgiven

lfc1971 • November 9, 2018 9:50 PM GMT
I doubt they’ve changed much

lfc1971 • November 10, 2018 10:34 AM GMT
And I am beginning to dislike the Irish in general
Ok with that

There we go  , no apology as yet from Charlie .....

how many are british though?

Dec 27, 2018 -- 6:06PM, lfc1971 wrote:

There we go

Don't double space.

Still haven't answered me though, lfc.

What am I being asked to apologise for?

and you are being dishonest again aren’t you Charlie
The first quote was my answer to someone who said I hated the Irish

And my answer was that no I didn’t , I don’t hate  anyone

If I recall I said that silly blue professes to be Irish and no one could dislike him

That’s in record somewhere as well , maybe you didn’t see it

No apology yet ...

* slippy blue

I suggest you go to the thread and read it.

I think you were right the first time...........silly blue Well he is a Palace fan

So you don't like the Irish, they can be aggressive, violent and opinionated, cowardly and treacherous. Really sounds like you love them.

So you don't hate the Russians lfc?

Why hate the Russian people ? Putin and his cronies yes

I like Russians ufcdan. I got married there to a Russian. The question was directed at lfc. Putin is a different issue.

Yes but its usually governments that people hate. In general people are people the world over, good, bad or indifferent

I'd agree with that.

Mid 80s we used to play cat and mouse with the Russian subs. Cant say we hated them. They did what they did and we did what we did

I'm an ex-squaddie that wasn't allowed to go to Russia for 20 (maybe 25) years after I left the army.

I knew Charlie wouldn’t say sorry, reprehensible really

Do you actually read the post lfc?

Dec 27, 2018 -- 6:14PM, Charlie wrote:

So you don't like the Irish, they can be aggressive, violent and opinionated, cowardly and treacherous. Really sounds like you love them.

Tell me this really means you like the Irish or just put your point of view about what you said forward.

Charlie , the very first quote that you brought back was an answer from me to someone else who said I hated the Irish
Now as you can see from that quote , and the previous quote that you left out i said I didn’t hate the Irish , or anyone else
but good , it’s just another little example ofdishonesty

To make it simple for you , I don’t like the Irish
Ok with that ?

The quotes make that clear , in general
That does not mean I dislike any individual.  Understand ?

How about aggressive, violent and opinionated, cowardly and treacherous? Were you just joshing?

Understand?

no , that’s my opinion of them , not all of them of course
But as they are threatening to use violence even now they will have to accept that’s how it is

So now you're moving from not liking an individual to not liking the Irish in general. I presume you mean the same about not liking an individual leftie to lefties in general?

a persons vuew if a country must be able look honestly and critically at that country and it’s people
Without that there can be no progress

A person's view of a country generally means Jack Sh!t.

Charlie I keep trying to explain   , I don’t hate anyone
Now if you can find a quote where I say I do go ahead

Or apologise ...

Do you think you think the terms you used qualify as hate?

I'm an ex-squaddie that wasn't allowed to go to Russia for 20 (maybe 25) years after I left the army.


Apparently I still cant go to Cuba

you see there is the word dislike , it is not the same as hate
don’t confuse one with the other

Now either find a quite where I say I hate anyone , or apologise ...

I'll just go with the first Google definition of hate:

verb
1.
feel intense dislike for.
"the boys hate each other"
synonyms: loathe, detest, dislike greatly, abhor, abominate, despise, execrate, feel aversion towards, feel revulsion towards, feel hostile towards, be repelled by, be revolted by, regard with disgust, not be able to bear/stand, be unable to stomach, find intolerable, shudder at, recoil from, shrink from;

You still haven't (at the risk of invading your self righteous indignation) told me what I need to apologise for.

here’s another one , I dislike some people
Is that ok ?

You are trying my patience a bit too far now. Let me state it in plain English that even you can comprehend, the words you used are hateful.

lfc
You are clearly entitled to dislike some people, I dislike you and Crippen for example.

no the words are a criticism of Ireland and the Irish , but as I keep trying to explain to you that is not hateful
it is something essential to understand the difference
That’s something else the leftists don’t understand , and use it in a very dangerous way

It’s a kind of dishonesty

Wrong on at least two accounts.
If you're not criticizing the Irish then don't use words which clearly are.

The use of "leftists don’t understand , and use it in a very dangerous way" is nonsense. Go on tell me what a leftie is.

Maybe we are not allowed to criticise Ireland , or some other countries
They are not children , sorry they will have to accept it like anyone else

Charlie I am critiquing the Irish and Ireland
That’s the point , they deserve it

Now until you understand that simple principle and stop throwing round words like hate then we are not going to get very far

My last post wasn't very good. You are clearly allowed to criticize what ever and whoever you want. However if you use certain words in so doing and those words imply hate then you can be accused of being hateful.

Oh Dear - Crippen having my posts removed again!

SO pitiful

Beginning to feel a bit like my ancestors must have felt when banging their heads against nonsense and dieing for their beliefs in WW1 and WW2.

Of course , that’s why I careful not to say that I hate anyone , because that is a very strong word
I used the word dislike , now I’m sorry that is what I said and I made the point of saying I didn’t hate anyone

It’s no good quoting myself explicitly saying I don’t hate anyone as evidence that I do

StudyForm

I have nothing but loathing for Crippen but I will say he's had ample opportunity to get some of my posts removed and never has. He obviously dislikes you more than me but I'm not sure he does request them to be removed.

Charlie that’s very hateful

It's not hateful lfc it's how I feel about you.

If it’s not hateful don’t use words that sound hateful

I can state categorically that I don't hate you lfc. I find your arguments trivial.

I can state categorically that I don’t hate the Irish , I find your inability to understand that concerning

He does, Charlie, I've pulled him on it before, and it's almost entirely done selectively so that what's left is crippen's posts with mine (that show him up) removed.
Also - although it didn't use to be the case, the removed posts are almost entirely ones which ONLY crippen could object to or report.

You've probably saved yours being taken down with what will be seen as a smidgen of support though.

I agree with you, btw, crippen is loathsome and lfc trivial. They're the ultimate lose double.

Slow, uneducated, biased are some of the words I would use to describe you. No hate towards you, maybe pity but that's going a bit too far without discussion and sounds condescending.

That's to lfc not you Study.

don’t use hateful language then Charlie

I don’t mind if you do really , if you are polite I might feel I have to be polite to you , or the Irish
And that might be something I would like to avoid

Study
I have no idea about posts being removed. It all sounds trivial to me. Say what you want and if people disagree then so be it.

within reason

lfc
I'm not intentionally being impolite to you or anyone else. If I think you (or anyone else) post something I disagree with then I'll say my bit. But I do find most of your posts silly. On the rare occasions I agree with them I'll stick up for you.

I’ll do the same for you Charlie , that seems to be a good arrrangement

Fck me should be Easter with all these Olive branches.

On the subject of Ireland I note it was Labour MPs worried about Britain punishing Ireland for Brexit. Well sorry but if 80 percent of their imports come through our country and the French etc want to make it hard for goods to travel through ports and the Irish want to be loyal to Europe then sod them. Its yet another card in our hand that we did not play

My nature is like that it inclines  me to treat people well , even disagreeable people

There is no doubt that the Irish are troublemakers ,
is it ok to say that Charlie :(

I find that the so called 'liberal' 'left' etc seem to resort almost immediately to personal insults.  (I prefer INSLUTS - as it fits for me). You only have to mention certain cultures, immigration and anti eu words and you can be labelled straight away as some sort of racist.
It is like when I have raised 'which of these people are actually british'  or farage has a point (imediate brownshirt label)
etc
I am not surprised when I am viewed as a molly and not a person who has his own thoughts and ideas. 

get my drift

oh and they are  almost humourless to boot

Ask ufcdan please.

immediate

That was to lfc.

well I’ve said it anyway , just my opinion

moisok
What's a molly?

Ask ufcdan please.

Sorry Charlie I must of missed something, ask me what ?

Dec 27, 2018 -- 7:42PM, lfc1971 wrote:

There is no doubt that the Irish are troublemakers ,is it ok to say that Charlie :(

ufcdan
I've forgot ! But think it was this.

Also some are very narrowly read.

Sorry why pull me into that, I haven't said anything about the Irish.

moor importantly witch bouy is going score in saints v hammers?

I know you haven't. I thought you were Irish. A big whooops. I'm getting confused.

That was to ufcdan.

not too many goals hopefully moisok

ok  I would be happy with a goal scored in the 90th  - the only one - but I doubt that would happen

Ffs Charlie keep up. I'm a tin tank

just tucking into some champers and finishing off dinner - that were close bruv!!!

Dec 27, 2018 -- 8:07PM, ufcdan wrote:

Ffs Charlie keep up. I'm a tin tank

Yeah. Got the idea you were Irish from somewhere. Sorry.

Are you Chelsea?

Yes mate, woz there when we were sh1t

No change there then!

I'm going off you

Who's your team Charlie ?

Well it's the ermm mighty(?) Baggies.

First time I went to Chelsea was 1967/8 something like 5th or 6th round of FA Cup. Baggies won 2-1. Osborne the Albion goalie sat on the ball at one stage. Fair bit of trouble even then. Albion took 5 or 6 thousand. Shed looked sh!t and was expecting more of it from what had been said. Only good part was that both teams played in Blue and White so was difficult to tell who was who.

They didn't play in blue and white in the game but they were the club colours. Actually can't remember the colour Albion played in probably red or all white.

That's ok with me Charlie a proper football team. Went there in a night game, walking up the road about thirty handed about 500 West Brom came up behind us. We gave the shout and steamed in, they soon did the maths

Talking of bitter left wing cxxts. Frankie Boyle is on