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the penguin
05 Dec 18 18:05
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I am new to laying multiple runners but I have in the snooker
As players lose and are settled my reds go up my greens go down but main wallet
isnt going up infact today the main wallet is now showing a - figure!
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Report themightymac December 5, 2018 6:09 PM GMT
I assume you are laying them in the outright market? If you are, winning lays will not show in your main wallet until the tournament is finished, even if players you layed got knocked out.
Report impossible123 December 5, 2018 6:13 PM GMT
Silly but true - it's happening on the antepost horse too; laziness or a resurrection of the defeated players envisaged to re-enter the competition. Maybe this is all because of the interest (wonga) 'Betfair' will gain holding onto one's money till competition finishes.
Report the penguin December 5, 2018 6:15 PM GMT
yes it is outright, i did ask betfair but they didnt have a clue
Report the penguin December 5, 2018 6:17 PM GMT
I dont really understand how my main wallet can now be negstive I havent layed anyone since last week!
Report impossible123 December 5, 2018 6:21 PM GMT
Betfair never have a clue; they credited my account (the horse was deaded), then decided to debit my account after I'd used the money putting my account into negative balance thus placing a bet impossible unless I deposited to cover the withdrawal prior. Despite tell them the animal is "deaded" and unable to fulfil his trainer's intention they still wouldn't listen; 15 online chats it took to sort out the matter. Crazy!
Report themightymac December 5, 2018 6:25 PM GMT
It can go negative on the strength of what you stand to win on the final result and will balance itself out when the tournament is finished.
Report the penguin December 5, 2018 6:27 PM GMT
Cheers
Report themightymac December 5, 2018 6:39 PM GMT
In case you don`t know, you can also lay a player you have already bet without having to deposit funds to your account to do so, e.g. if you bet a player @ 50/1 for 100 and he gets to the Final and is evens, you can lay him for 2500 with a zero balance on the strength of what you stand to win. You don`t need to deposit 2500 to do so.

You probably know this but some people new to laying on BF don`t and can miss out as they don`t have 2500 to deposit and lose out when the player gets beat.
Report themightymac December 5, 2018 6:40 PM GMT
I assume that you have a completely Green book when they let you go negative on your main balance.
Report impossible123 December 5, 2018 7:01 PM GMT
That was not the case. I laid several horses antepost, and one of them was "deaded". 'Betfair' initially credited my account ie £20, and I used it on another race. Then 'betfair' decided the event had not taken place, and despite the horse was no longer alive and unable to take up his trainer's plan for him 'betfair' debited my account to the same amount ie £20 rendering it negative £20 (minus).

How could a horse that has died take part in a race he was entered for? Unnecessary hassle would have been avoided if someone had applied a wee bit of common sense and logic in the 1st place rather than follow the rule book no matter what.
Report Alices December 5, 2018 7:41 PM GMT
Would it not be that if the race didn't take place, ie Frost, Snow , Foot and Mouth etc, the stakes would be refunded to whoever backed the horse that was no longer alive so until the event actually takes place their bet is still in play.
Report impossible123 December 5, 2018 9:20 PM GMT
Point accepted, but then again given circumstance ie the horse was "deaded", and the chance of any of the event you mentioned very unlikely the bet could still be settled (balance neutral) but a note indicating if the unlikeliest event happens my account would be adjusted accordingly in the future.

Why did they credit my account in the 1st place then, if so?; 15 online chats with at least 10 different "advisors" (sometimes managers were involved) given various possibilities were unnecessary, unprofessional and time consuming, I believe.
Report themightymac December 5, 2018 10:47 PM GMT
I agree impossible123, they should show some common sense indeed, but alas they don`t.
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