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Why did you not claim asylum in Italy, Germany or France.............................all safe countries !
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Hmmmm I not of that persuasion. The point I'm making is if I was in fear of my life. I'd be asking for Asylum in the first safe country I came too. It is however in some ways a rhetorical question, we know why they come here but many have found out the streets aren't paved with gold
The first question the media should ask is why people are so desperate to get out of France. You can understand people risking their children's life if they were in immediate danger but that is not the case.
Cramming so many into a boat is a calculated risk that they won't have to wait long to be picked up. So far it seems to be working.
Cramming so many into a boat is a calculated risk that they won't have to wait long to be picked up. So far it seems to be working.
Not rocket science is it, benefits. We are known as the most gullible, and are even happy to house any adult claiming to be a child.
only papers the trafficers had left,a new batch of Syrian,iraqi, eratrea etc papers will be arriving shortly so don't worry if you don't want to house an Iranian,plenty more coming in the new year
There has been some crackdown on (mainly) middle-class protesters over the last couple of years in Iran. These are people who probably are persecuted now at home and also ones who can afford the prices charged by the traffikers. As it is British policy not to return Iranians it is of course possible that some are actually from countries that we will send them back to.
I think the reasons they aim here are more complex. Some have relatives,some can speak English,some aren't well treated in France and I accept that the benefits system will be attractive to some,though refugees from outside Europe are usually from the middle-class in their own countries so in most cases would probably want to get above benefit level in the long-run.
I think the reasons they aim here are more complex. Some have relatives,some can speak English,some aren't well treated in France and I accept that the benefits system will be attractive to some,though refugees from outside Europe are usually from the middle-class in their own countries so in most cases would probably want to get above benefit level in the long-run.
thank you Salmon Spray; things are a little clearer now
'refugees from outside Europe are usually from the middle-class in their own countries'. That was exposed as fantasy when Merkel allowed Germany to be flooded with uneducated violent young men.
Incidentally I believe most of the Iranians are coming into Europe through Serbia,which ironically is not in the EU,then making their way eventually to France and The Channel.In that case they are unlikely to have gone very near Germany.
Are you saying there are no middle-class thugs saddo ?
You obviously haven't been to many "posh" race meetings.
You obviously haven't been to many "posh" race meetings.
I think you know what I mean ss. How many of the eagerly expected graduates did Merkel's million contain? Hardly a one is the truth.
I actually smashed a radio 2 nights ago. I was listening to LBC and a letemallin Welsh guy started spouting off. I threw the radio at the wall, batteries all over the place, bits of plastic too. Something else to blame these illegals for. If YOU want them here, let them live in YOUR house with YOU and YOU pay all their health and education expenses. Alternatively just sink the boats on the way in!
I've just spent 5 minutes trying to work out the homeland of the Letemallin Welsh sub-tribe 
Didn't realise they had all moved into slicer's house. Can understand his frustration to be honest.
Nice one PP, but I can assure you the red line around my house defended by machine gun nests, just like what there should be at Calais, would prevent that!
Only 8 per cent of unaccompanied minors who arrived in the UK in 2015 (the most recent data I can lay my hands on) were, in fact, under 14. This is according to Eurostat, the statistical office of the European Union.
Instead, over half were aged 16-17.
Nor was there a balance of boys and girls. Some 91 per cent were male. Save the Children admits, ‘Many come across as being self-reliant and not in need of support’, but it urges that they are often ‘extremely vulnerable and in need of reassurance and care’.
Why are the majority of refugee children in fact teenage boys? Here we come up against another myth: that refugees somehow find their own way to the UK. The truth is, nobody arrives in this country without the help of a people trafficker (the EU having ceded their immigration policy to criminals, since Merkel's insane 'teenager on Facebook whose parents have gone away for the weekend' approach to economic migrants).
This means it is the people traffickers who control our immigration system — not the Home Office. It is they who dictate who comes here. Refugees who cannot afford to pay never make it. If we really want to help the vulnerable, we should be taking children directly from refugee camps such as Zaatari in Jordan (a country that is a true friend of the UK).
The central role of people traffickers means that every young person arriving here represents a considerable investment by their family or community back home. This explains why they are nearly all young men. They come from cultures in which men have greater earning power.
As one immigration officer at a busy UK airport with 20 years’ experience of dealing with refugee children explained: ‘Ninety per cent of them are not orphans. Their coming here is very well worked out. Their families have paid the people traffickers to bring them here. The intention is for the families to follow shortly after. These are cash-rich young people.’
For the most part, in his opinion, ‘They are not fleeing for their lives.’ In other words, they are economic migrants and therefore not entitled to asylum.
Instead, over half were aged 16-17.
Nor was there a balance of boys and girls. Some 91 per cent were male. Save the Children admits, ‘Many come across as being self-reliant and not in need of support’, but it urges that they are often ‘extremely vulnerable and in need of reassurance and care’.
Why are the majority of refugee children in fact teenage boys? Here we come up against another myth: that refugees somehow find their own way to the UK. The truth is, nobody arrives in this country without the help of a people trafficker (the EU having ceded their immigration policy to criminals, since Merkel's insane 'teenager on Facebook whose parents have gone away for the weekend' approach to economic migrants).
This means it is the people traffickers who control our immigration system — not the Home Office. It is they who dictate who comes here. Refugees who cannot afford to pay never make it. If we really want to help the vulnerable, we should be taking children directly from refugee camps such as Zaatari in Jordan (a country that is a true friend of the UK).
The central role of people traffickers means that every young person arriving here represents a considerable investment by their family or community back home. This explains why they are nearly all young men. They come from cultures in which men have greater earning power.
As one immigration officer at a busy UK airport with 20 years’ experience of dealing with refugee children explained: ‘Ninety per cent of them are not orphans. Their coming here is very well worked out. Their families have paid the people traffickers to bring them here. The intention is for the families to follow shortly after. These are cash-rich young people.’
For the most part, in his opinion, ‘They are not fleeing for their lives.’ In other words, they are economic migrants and therefore not entitled to asylum.
I agree with Hanx. We should be taking refugees from camps in countries neighbouring theirs and getting a better cross-section of class,age,gender etc. I DID actually think that was the Government's policy at one time but have heard nothing about it lately.
The number of EU citizens moving to the UK has continued to drop, but more people coming from elsewhere means the overall migration rate is unchanged.
Figures show net migration - the difference between how many people came to the UK for at least 12 months and how many left - was 273,000 last year.
EU net migration was 74,000 in the year to the end of June 2018, while non-EU net migration was 248,000.
The ONS said more Asian citizens had been moving to the UK for work. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46384417
EU migrants, non EU mogrants, people in boats washed up at Dover...we have completely lost control.
Figures show net migration - the difference between how many people came to the UK for at least 12 months and how many left - was 273,000 last year.
EU net migration was 74,000 in the year to the end of June 2018, while non-EU net migration was 248,000.
The ONS said more Asian citizens had been moving to the UK for work. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46384417
EU migrants, non EU mogrants, people in boats washed up at Dover...we have completely lost control.
every asylum seeker between the ages of 17-40 leaving war torn areas, should have the word COWARD branded onto there forehead, then deported
a letemallin Welsh guy
I heard him Slicer.
He sounded like the kind who'd lend them his wife and daughters for a night in bed.
I heard him Slicer.
He sounded like the kind who'd lend them his wife and daughters for a night in bed.
Like all of these types Dr, he would not lend them his, but would expect everyone else to lend them theirs!!!
People in 'wanting a better life in a place they think best' shocker.
Going about it in an illegal way. Lots of things I want that I cant have. If any of you want to give up your place on a NHS waiting list for one of these, and are prepared to pay their living and educational expenses so they can have a better life, go ahead. No reason why the Brit taxpayer should pay for them!
They wouldn't be able to answer that Slicer, so they'd just scream out 'Racist, Racist'', thats what they do when they realise they can't win the argument
Nov 29, 2018 -- 2:44PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:
People in 'wanting a better life in a place they think best' shocker.
Not in Blighty surely?
Not with the Carn(ey)age that is predicted for us at the stroke of midnight on March 28th 2019. All these folks trying to 'beat Brexit', risking their lives in the bleak midwinter to get to this island of neo-Nazis and soon-to-be mass unemployment and recession?
Serious question - if so many of these asylum seekers are from reasonably well off middle classes, why are they spending thousands on illegal and dangerous trafficking routes, and not simply buying a one way ticket on an aeroplane, which would surely only cost a few hundred quid. They could enter as a visitor and then just stay on, or claim asylum if they were (unlikely) ever caught overstaying their visa. Why risk life on a sh!tty dinghy in the North Sea having paid through the nose to a criminal for the pleasure???
Because they know they would be denied entry. So they try their luck, and when they get caught they appeal to the Lefty Snowflake sympathisers to campaign to let them stay!
The first questions i'd ask an illegal immigrant is,
1.Which programme were Arthur mullard and Queenie Watts in.?
2.force them to eat Jellied eels
3.sing, the national anthem the whole way through
4.wear a union jack waistcoat always
and 5..ask if they have health insurance, if they failed just 1 of those, they'd be deported.
1.Which programme were Arthur mullard and Queenie Watts in.?
2.force them to eat Jellied eels
3.sing, the national anthem the whole way through
4.wear a union jack waistcoat always
and 5..ask if they have health insurance, if they failed just 1 of those, they'd be deported.
Really only one question is needed:
What would you do with Beatles: a) eat them or b) listen to them?
What would you do with Beatles: a) eat them or b) listen to them?
Whatever action is taken when they're caught, the message sent out should be that they did not succeed.
They could be held in camps or prison ships if they had no papers.
And then returned to their country of origin when they get fed up with that life.
They could be held in camps or prison ships if they had no papers.
And then returned to their country of origin when they get fed up with that life.
People are risking their lives to get here - and it's not for the weather.
They must be shown they will not succeed. End of story!
Really only one question is needed:
What would you do with Beatles: a) eat them or b) listen to them?
That would certainly flush out any illegals from Papua New Guinea.
What would you do with Beatles: a) eat them or b) listen to them?
That would certainly flush out any illegals from Papua New Guinea.
Slicer 29 Nov 18 14:51
Going about it in an illegal way. Lots of things I want that I cant have. If any of you want to give up your place on a NHS waiting list for one of these, and are prepared to pay their living and educational expenses so they can have a better life, go ahead. No reason why the Brit taxpayer should pay for them!
Not many hands would go up if this was proposed to the population.
Going about it in an illegal way. Lots of things I want that I cant have. If any of you want to give up your place on a NHS waiting list for one of these, and are prepared to pay their living and educational expenses so they can have a better life, go ahead. No reason why the Brit taxpayer should pay for them!
Not many hands would go up if this was proposed to the population.
now they are thrusting a muslim bus driver in your face how very very very correct
it is amazing this pc credential box ticking is - just contributing to the subtle take over
incredible and no one challenges what is going on
if you do you will be binned
it is amazing this pc credential box ticking is - just contributing to the subtle take over
incredible and no one challenges what is going on
if you do you will be binned
london bbc argh!!!!!!!!! thank goodness I will not be around
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