Could we English be anymore unpopular in Europe ? ( honest views ) scale of 0 - 5

We've never been popular. Much of Europe has an inferiority complex regards the UK.

We're a small nation, yet have loomed large in world history arguably more than any other country. Much of Europe has a problem with that fact.

Europe, the French and Belgians especially, should be kissing our feet after what we've done for them.

When you've been the heart of the world since modern civilization began, it's tough to take. Inventions, music, literature, language, than and conquering half the world.

I think torq's first two posts illustrate why we're unpopular. This incredible arrogance that appears when dealing with the continent. Weird how other people think it's a bit naff.

Jealousy.

Given how many international toursts visit Britain, I doubt there's that much hatred  anyway.

When your hated you know your the best

0=5 the Nazis hate us

Is this a betting without the rest of the world market

The judge from Scotland says , you are counts, but your our counts.

I think you have lost quite a lot of popularity in the last couple of years, but you started out being quite popular, so there's still plenty of room for further drops

Britain and the British are a long way from being unpopular.

I wish them filthy scum in their pedlo,s bobbing about in the channel hated us that much they,d turn around and foook off

Harsh but fair.

only way to be
so while where at it,  treason may is a lying deceiving cooont

If they hate us so much why do they sell us £341BN worth of business?

Answer: they love us and need us.

what - the nazis and the surrender monkeys?
the french have history for supporting germany during the war

and they are doing it now

hey  you can't take the french out of quisling and all that ho ho

Britain is a great country but we are a bit eccentric at times , there again though its the ruling class in most countries that are the problem

1st time poster    25 Nov 18 16:52 
I wish them filthy scum in their pedlo,s bobbing about in the channel hated us that much they,d turn around and foook off



ITV says most of em are Iranians desperately fleeing war and persecution. I realise there is a little bother in France at the moment, but hardly life threatening shirley.

this is so funny  - I no longer am interested - we are just being fooled by government and civil service - on all counts

it ain't changing anytime soon   

0   2  in the wolves  huddersfield game  - good result

You can't blame them when you look the way some brits act on holiday and England fans. They're an embarrassment to this country.

I think when we beat them the last time, we and the prussians should have colonised the french.

What Britain is this ? It doesn’t exist look around
Isn’t it terrible to feel ill at ease in your own country

Being on an island, people do tend to look at you with suspicion, and think you have an island mentality.

are there any English shops , the off licence , the corner shop, gp   hospital , dentists , council , health team , carers , post office , plumbers shop , chemist , takeaways , Asda , Tesco’s ....

You are not allowed to fly the English flag , and you see many other flags
And I don’t like the flags of any other country

Many many people living in England hate the English ,  can you imagine
that’s a fact

Plenty of people fly the English flag, though mostly at Sports events.

What is an island mentality ?

The English are now just another tribe , amongst many other tribes
In England .

The Greek flag is flown outside many buildings in Greece, schools churches universities included. They feel no shame, and many other countries do the same. What is so different about this country that we are made to feel ashamed of our flag?

Things changed forever in this country when Blair and New labour came to power.

Any English football teams ?

Correct McCoy, he took us to wars we didnt want, then labour imported voters at any cost.

In advertisements you will not see a traditional English person
They may not exist ?

I do think we should have more flags. Go to Mexico and every place has a massive big f*ck off Mexican flag. I mean, a great big one. Looks really cool. We should have one in the middle of each city too.

fook europe was not for the british they would be talking german

“ I’m an Englishman “ ...what does that mean ?

Island mentality refers to the notion of isolated communities perceiving themselves as exceptional or superior to the rest of the world. This term does not directly refer to a geographically confined society, but to the cultural, moral, or ideological superiority of a community lacking social exposure. Island mentality can be characterized by narrow-mindedness, ignorance, or outright hostility towards any artifact (concept, ideology, lifestyle choice, art form, etc.) originating from outside the geographic area inhabited by the society.

The term "island mentality" is also used in some psychological research[which?] to describe individuals who dislike or have problems with relating to others, and then live as loners or "islands". This concept (in which people may feel inferior, afraid, or alone) has little to nothing to do with the above terminology.

Brazil love waving their flags about as well, and of course, the number 1 flag wavers in the world, USA, USA, USA.

Of course, the United States is a British creation so we have to take some responsilbity for what goes on over there.

I like how the yanks do their patriotism. There's usually no nationalism behind it, just a proper love of the country and they encourage newcomers to love it too. Pretty good I reckon.

What about the Sentilenese?

lol, you have just posted wikipedia

I have ibra, that's the definition you asked for

maybe I should have put it in italics, I would have thought the smoothness of the text would have told you it wasn't me

Nov 25, 2018 -- 9:08PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:

lol, you have just posted wikipedia

How embarrassing didn't think they'd let him access wikipedia from Raqqa.

I like how the yanks do their patriotism. There's usually no nationalism behind it, just a proper love of the country and they encourage newcomers to love it too. Pretty good I reckon.

Yep agree. No shame flying the flag in the USA my dad flies one outside his house along with double purple heart number plate on his car. As for the multitude of races that live in America it's always African American, Irish American, Italian American etc etc the important word is AMERICAN

Maybe scandi.

No I asked for your definition ? I like what others think from experience rather than the internet.

Where have wikipedia ever been trustful organisation, unless you are google. They are run by entirely far left people.

ps i get the islander bit to an extent.

not sure what you mean by that post denzil.

Nov 25, 2018 -- 9:20PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:

not sure what you mean by that post denzil.

It's just a little bit slap and tickle with scanjem wasn't in your direction.

ok Ibra fair enough

Island mentality to me is people on an island that carry a very insular mentality where they they feel they are the centre of the world and either need no or very little outside assistance, influences or evolutionary ideas in order to progress because everything they already know and have is substantial enough to survive and thrive without them, islanders see themselves as different from those on the mainland because by simply being on an island it conjures up an inner belief inside them that they are superior to the rest of the world and have a greater survival instinct, and anyone that dares to control/manipulate/take over their way of life, sovereignty and right to self govern is quickly met with hostility.

Hence the Brexit vote - "WE'RE OUT"!

dan you say a proper love for their country - but really from a young age, kids of America are forced to swear their allegiances to the flag, i.e. minds conditioned from day 1, hence, Donald Trump nationalistic approach and success in the US elections, well it helped anyway.

Maybe it's the fact we have to stick our hands in our pocket to go and be European whether flying, boat ot tunnel

Well I prefer that to the sh1t over here. I remember when the Euro's where held here. Brixton council told employees not to have England flags on their desks as it may offend their African colleagues hope that helps SH

Good reply scandi.

I feel that would had been ok before world trade and the internet, I get the more insular examples come from Scotland or say Newcastle.

i live 60 miles from the ocean but i dont feel im on an island, try London for an example, no one there thinks they live on an island.

As an Island you could expect a country to survive without imports of foods, fish, fruits & farms etc.

To self govern seems a given for me, unless like today the elected people only want a part time job

In the last 12 months I’ve been to Greece Spain & Portugal,whenever brexits been mentioned the locals couldn’t give a ****,in fact if anything I’d say they’re understanding of us.i don’t think there’s a great love for the EC especially in Southern Europe.

To think 40 odd years ago we " joined "  to make trading easier with out neighbours, now we want to leave  we have to give consessions on things that years ago we would never have dreamed of signing up to in the first place, we are " getting out " or not as it will seem I'm sure in the coming months, the nightmare has only just started.

1812 the last time an English PM was assassinated.

scandi babes.. theres another Mob that conditions their kids minds from birth.. aint heard you pipe up about them darling

Wounded  -  that would be beyond his understanding 
I see they have been 'active' again - this time with sikhs

silence is golden scandipuss

The euros lost their chance of redemption with UK when they messed Cameron about,one humiliation too far.

Even the Irish Leader is putting the boot in now.


Why the fcuk should the Irish (among many nations screwed over by the Empire) give a damn, apart from their own considerations?

A friend of mine spent some time talking to "real" French people when on a holiday there recently. Half said they thought we were very brave and doing the right thing to leave. The other half said we should never have been allowed to join in the first place. None wanted us to stay. It is different in Holland and Belgium that depend on us to counter the dominance of Germany.

The reactions by the EU leaders and the national leaders have been choreographed apart from the Spanish intervention which apparently upset the Brussels apparatchik that thought it had everyone under control. No doubt the Irish leader has stuck to the script.

would you ever trust the germans or french - what have the ever done for us?

That's the politicos not the people.

they are out to create a euro nation - don't be fooled about this anti national stance - they just want a giant one centrally controlled

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1812 the last time an English PM was assassinated.

Actually he was an Englishman who was a BRITISH PM.

Just why are the English unpopular?

'Real French people

Alias: your point?

Alias
Why the fcuk should the Irish (among many nations screwed over by the Empire) give a damn, apart from their own considerations?

That same Empire brought civilisation to most of the world Alias. BTW Torque summed it up nicely, jealousy behind the unpopularity.

COULD WE ENGLISH BE ANYMORE UNPOPULAR...

Do we care? And why make this just about the English?

On a national level I'd rather be respected (no chance of that now thanks to Theresa May's inept handling of Brexit negotiations) but liked? It's nice but that's all.

Of course, on a personal level, when you go abroad it's incumbent on you to obey local laws and observe customs, try and learn some of the language and generally act like a civilized human being. I find that's generally reciprocated wherever you go in the world and any 'national toxicity' gets quickly forgotten about if you're cool

they are out to create a euro nation - don't be fooled about this anti national stance - they just want a giant one centrally controlled

This was openly admitted by Ted Heath during an interview with Robin Day who challenged him about joining for trade,Heath said it was always about a European state but had declined to acknowledge this during his campaign to join. Hence the distrust about the EU that has been a running sore for decades.The Labour party were always agin it until Blair saw his chance to become President of Brussels.

I can believe that treetop

but I am totally against it

We can have mutual trade treaties, mutual peace treaties  and mutual defence alliances....
but I believe we need our BORDERS(all countries)...I think it protects us in the long term.

Although over time with modern communication and travel, we will become more similar, but don't rush it


When we joined we were told it was a COMMON MARKET, we did not read the small print.

I hope we are able to continue our scientific co operation as well.

All sorts of co operation, but we keep our BORDERS.

When we are finally out, there will be an added inconvenience travelling to and from the EU.
Customs and Passport control. We can make this as efficient as possible with modern technology.

But it would always be a minor hassle.

But in return we would have control of who comes into this country and what they bring with them.
I think it is worth it.

Of course people will come here and apply for British citizenship. This would be treated on merit.
They will be accepted or they have to go back where they came from.

Of course some of these people come from countries marred by war or with very little economic prospects.
But I am sorry we cannot accept them all.

It is a sad fact of life.

It would make sense we apply the same rules to NON EU people as well.

In an emergency we may accept a few more than we otherwise would on compassionate grounds.

But we must know who these people are...it will be controlled.

As the UK has never signed up to the Schengen agreement, we have always had to show passports on arrival in another EU country and on return to UK so I don't see what will change until you want to go from one Schengen country to another when of course it might but if they don't have border controls between themselves, I don't think it will. I travelled by bus from Spain to Portugal in March and although their was a border point, the bus did not stop.  Similarly we were on a Danube cruise in August that went from the Black Sea to Budapest passing through several countries. The only time that passports were checked was between Romania and Serbia (not in EU) and that applied to all EU residents.

The really onerous steps have come from Maastricht (1992) and Lisbon (2007), pulling further integration without a referendum (Blair promised one in 1997) while only a few MP's were diligent enough to read the small print and oppose the PM of the day.We elect lazy vermin to Westminster now.