Seven guilty of Rotherham child sexual abuse charges

I always supported Scotland over England during the 80s because of Dalglish, Souness and Hansen. Even now I will generally take the mick out of England as frankly I hate the London-centricness, the ridiculous coverage and expectation, the casual racism and hooliganism that often follows the team etc etc.

Does that make me unBritish?

Personally I think the idea of nationality, particularly the idea that certain nationalities have identifiable traits and characteristics is bunkum. My two daughters are technically mixed race, in fact one was born elsewhere. But I doubt you'd find anyone who'd say they weren't British given their appearance and voices. Not sure what British really is these days and, more importantly, I'm not sure why anyone should really care.

Not sure what British really is these days and, more importantly, I'm not sure why anyone should really care. - PP

Your letter of 'thanks and well done' will surely be on its way to you PP. Most probably signed by Blair, Merkel, Obama and the rest.

By not caring about national identity you're 'on message'. Soon there will be no Britain left anyway (if they get their way). A void of identity that will be filled by something other..

If you can't see the juggernaut coming down the road towards your daughters and their children then I feel sorry for you.

No surprise that you piped up, albeit with a weak analogy(Scotland v England???...wtf). What I do find surprising, having admitted you have two daughters, is that you continue to be unable/unwilling, to admit/realise the real and present danger to young white girls in widening areas of this country by men who fit a specific profile.
Of course there are others who work mainly in isolation that are also a serious threat to any young female......but numbers wise, i.e....their victims, are just not comparable.
Lest not forget, this is a major additional problem/threat to primarily our youth, solely created by the government/s who have allowed those responsible(or descendants/relatives) into this country in the first place. This country has always had it's own law breakers of all laws.
Their job should be to have the health/safety and welfare of the citizens of Britain as their utmost priority.

Inj - it's just that biologically, chemically there's no such thing as national identity. If you too 100 random dna samples you wouldn't be able to tell people apart and group them via their passport.

Lay - I thought the supporting Scotland part is every bit as valid as your supposed colleague supporting Pakistan. Go to Malta and see the country split in half on supporting Italy or England and you'll realise sport isn't necessarily patriotic.

Regarding being a father of girls I realise the world is a dangerous place. I've done what I can to teach them about potential dangers and we all go to karate so they can potentially better defend themselves. However, if you think teaching them that every Pakistani is probably a paedophile is the right way to go then you're bonkers.  They know there are some bad people out there but also know that people are individuals. I make an exception for Man Utd fans. There's no way one of them is setting foot in ours but beyond that they are supposed to develop judgment and fairness. They've seen their mother being abused simply because she's a foreigner so we've already had the conversation about stereotyping and racism and how the actions of an incredibly small number don't mean everyone is the same (again Man U fans apart).

To be a citizen of one's adopted country one has to grasp the many aspects that come with it be they positive or negative eg culture, tradition, way of life, food, law of the land, and the WEATHER! But I think some ethnic groups are here solely for economic and educational purposes.

I love curry as much as I love fish and chips or cornish pasties nevertheless I do not want to sit next to an individual smelling of any of the aforementioned food on public transport. But I have, in the past, especially in certain areas on buses.

PorcupineorPineapple • November 2, 2018 6:15 PM GMT

teaching them that every Pakistani is probably a paedophile

Young girls should be advised that every Pakistani muslim is potentially a paedophile , to a greater probability than men of other ethnicities .
Why ? Simply because that is a statistical fact .

Still awaiting your response to my 3.05 post , but I'm beginning to think you don't have one ................................

You seem all round very confused......comparing Man Utd fans to the subject on here, being the ultimate example,(now girls, the main thing in life is, you have to be very wary of Man Utd fans....have you got that?)......and to a lesser extent mentioning Scotland and Malta!!.....if meant as a joke....then not an amusing one.

Your choice of a foreign wife (no problem with me or anyone , I would assume), and the subsequent shared experiences, seems to be at the root of your viewpoints regarding any criticism of anything non "British"......and btw, most are aware that child sexual abuse is not only committed by men of one specific profile, and the subsequent permanent damage it inflicts on the victims.

It is just that, despite the efforts of the media, more people in this country, outside of the numerous victims,relatives and friends.....are becoming more and more aware of a specific type of child abuse.

It is called distraction tactics - also playing the ray cyst card so we end up arguing about semantics for instance

not the fact that 84 percent of all grooming gangs are run by the 'community'

porky is one of several progressives who rely on this tactic

Rey, what is the lesson in saying one nationality is statistically extremely unlikely to be paedophiles but potentially more than others, even if that number is technically close to insignificant.

I mean, firstly has anyone actually done a league table of this. Are we sure Canadians aren't right up there for instance? What about Rwandans? And if you're talking about British girls being raped then I'm pretty sure British rapists would be streaking away at the top so my warnings should surely be to avoid British men.

Secondly, how is nationality a defence. Should they be asking to check a guy's passport before deciding to get in the back of his van? What is the valuable life lesson you're proposing exactly?

As for this 3.05 post I remember believing it had all been covered off in subsequent posts so didn't need a direct reply. Apologies if you feel undervalued by that. Do re-post though if you felt it was unsatisfactory.

PP - you no doubt saw the case of the Christian woman in Pakistan this week?

Kept in solitary for 8 years for allegedly saying something negative about Mohammed. Released at last but many in Pakistan want her killed. She's now in hiding.

Is this what you want for your daughters?? Islam makes your hatred for Man U look like fairy cakes.

Bck on topic for a second...one girl said 100 men raped her. 20 were tried so that's at least 80 rapists on the run.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.................eventually though, despite how stubborn he is, when he is really really thirsty, and completely dehydrated and his future seems hopeless........ he will !!

Take a pinch of white man
Wrap him up in black skin
Add a touch of blue blood
And a little bitty bit of red Indian boy
Oh like a Curly Latin kinkies
Oh Lordy, Lordy, mixed with yellow Chinkees, yeah
You know you lump it all together
And you got a recipe for a get along scene
Oh what a beautiful dream
If it could only come true, you know, you know
What we need is a great big melting pot
Big enough enough enough to take
The world and all its got And keep it stirring for a hundred years or more
And turn out coffee coloured people by the score
Rabbis and the friars
Vishnus and the gurus
We got the Beatles or the Sun God
Well it really doesn't matter what religion you choose
And be thankful little Mrs. Graceful
You know that livin' could be tasteful
We should all get together in a lovin machine
I think I'll call up the queen
It' s only fair that she knows, you know, you know
What we need is a great big melting pot
Big enough enough enough to take
The world and all its got And keep it stirring for a hundred years or more
And turn out coffee coloured people by the score

Injera - your "logic" is frankly ridiculous.

If you don't tar all Pakistanis as paedos then we're going to become Pakistan.

Jesus, get a grip and get some rationality.

Mr Bigmo, I have been reminding people of that song for the last 10 years. Blue Mink got their wish along with all the ramifications.

pass the spliff

porky sides with the 'peaceful' ones - very odd  - why would one want to do that

any ideas??

Go on moysey, why don't you have a guess?

PORKY  - but they worship one!!!  winged horses and all that too.  wonderful stuff

PorcupineorPineapple • November 2, 2018 7:16 PM GMT
Rey, what is the lesson in saying one nationality is statistically extremely unlikely to be paedophiles but potentially more than others, even if that number is technically close to insignificant.

Out of interest , what colour is the sky on your planet ? 84% of Type 1 grooming offences being carried out by male representatives of 4% of the population !
What is insignificant about this statistical fact ?

Do re-post though if you felt it was unsatisfactory.

Reynard • October 29, 2018 3:05 PM GMT
PorcupineorPineapple • October 29, 2018 2:57 PM GMT
rey - my point is that whenever an Asian does something there's a dozen threads on here with dozens of responses from the usual suspects.

Any chance you can be a little more specific please ?

If you care so much about protecting kids why is your focus solely concentrated on the colour of the perp's skin?

Who mentioned the colour of their skin ?

Whenever a white Brit does something then it's just tumbleweed.

Child grooming / Gang Raping is type 1 offence . These are the offences we are referring to on this thread .
I believe you are referring to individual paedophiles which , although a serious and abhorrent crime , is different from the one in Huddersfield etc.

some people seem to only care about child abuse when it fits an anti-muslim agenda that they are attached to

Government statistics and independent research shows that 84% of those convicted for this specific Type 1 offence are of Pakistani-Muslim heritage . No agenda .

Try again , please

But its nothing to do with Islam-I know this because the BBC and Guardian tell me so.

how can anyone attempt to make any excuses for this sort of gang/community behaviour?

Nov 2, 2018 -- 10:27PM, moisok wrote:

how can anyone attempt to make any excuses for this sort of gang/community behaviour?

Hey moisok, unfortunately, there are Quislings in every Country.

much more important to follow the line dictated by the eussr

let 'em all in and follow their cultural norms

PP - now come on old chap - where did I say we would become Pakistan???

You're being emotive and it's unbecoming.

Of the 50 most dangerous countries in the world for Christians to live, 43 are Islamic. Pakistan is one of the 43.

Islam is illeberal, intolerant, mysogynistic, dogmatic, dualistic and opposes free speech/democracy.

Some of its adherents are raping Europe and the UK. Others are slowly building their caliphate via breeding and greater influence in the media and politics.

It's a Category 5 Hurricane heading our way. For the Frogs it's a TGV. For the Krauts it'll make Bomber Command look like the red arrows.

ah but given time they will reform   ho ho

just like the eu which will also reform

meanwhile I will pop out and howl at the moon

after all Injera - they are a peaceful lot - you never see them fighing in pubs round my way

Point proven by the fabulous Mo!! ho ho

Inj - you accuse me of being emotive and then say "some of its adherents are raping" (looking forward to yoyr posts about how some adherents to Christianity are also raping) and a CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE IS HEADED OUR WAY.

If my post was emotive, yours was Nicholas Cage playing a six year old girl ffs. You may want to check your irony meter. Reckon you've broken it again.

Sea lions are massive. Bigger than an actual lion in many cases. Sea horses, on the other hand, are tiny. Much smaller than an actual horse for sure. Perhaps you were thinking of one of them?

PorcupineorPineapple • October 29, 2018 2:57 PM GMT
rey - my point is that whenever an Asian does something there's a dozen threads on here with dozens of responses from the usual suspects.

Why do you prefer the description 'asian' rather than the more accurate 'Pakistani muslim' ?

If you care so much about protecting kids why is your focus solely concentrated on the colour of the perp's skin?

Who mentioned the colour of their skin ?

Please respond to these two points , if possible .

PorcupineorPineapple • November 2, 2018 10:32 PM GMT
Rey, it's statistically insignificant because you're desperate to paint all Pakistanis as potential paedos. So, in terms of meeting one and him being a fiddler the chance is incredibly small.

No I'm not , the statistics speak for themselves plus the lack of informants from within the pakistani muslim community suggests that at the very least they condone these crimes , if not willing to participate directly .
....... and the term I prefer to use is 'pakistani muslim' NOT simply 'pakistani' . And we aren't just talking about 'fiddlers' , these are CHILD RAPISTS ffs !!!

........ and this one also , if possible .
Thanks in advance , Reynard .

So you start by asking me to use Pakistani instead of Asian and then end by highlighting a sentence where I use the term Pakistani.


What a tiresome little twerp.

The grooming gangs are predominately Of Pakistani heritage unless of course you include the Catholic Church grooming gangs and the paedophile gangs that operate on the dark web and share disgusting photos and contacts who are are predominantly " white ".

My question is regardless of the ethnicity or " colour " of the perpetrators should we as a society not be doing more to protect our " CHILDREN "!

How were these grooming a gangs allowed to carry on unfettered for so long?

Where were the Police

Where were the care workers

Where were Social Services and where were the parents

Where were the locals when this was going on under their noses?

PorcupineorPineapple • November 3, 2018 5:57 AM GMT
So you start by asking me to use Pakistani instead of Asian and then end by highlighting a sentence where I use the term Pakistani.


What a tiresome little twerp.

Because 'pakistani muslim' is factually accurate , you still cannot accept that YOU introduced COLOUR into the equation , and if by tiresome little twerp you mean I wont let you inaccuracies and misinformation go without explanation , then guilty as charged

Asian is also factually correct you blert. Man is factually correct. I believe some men are technically british so in terms of factual correctness you're actually in a world of wrong.

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Personally I think the idea of nationality, particularly the idea that certain nationalities have identifiable traits and characteristics is bunkum. My two daughters are technically mixed race, in fact one was born elsewhere. But I doubt you'd find anyone who'd say they weren't British given their appearance and voices. Not sure what British really is these days and, more importantly, I'm not sure why anyone should really care.

^

Nationality and culture and thus how far ahead we are on the scale of progressive values is important.

For instance if you look at same sex sexual activity. It was legal in the Italy from 1890 and The UK in 1967. In many countries it is currently illegal. Currently in Iran, Brunei, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Afghansitan the death penalty is an option. In other places like Pakistan it is life imprisonment.

Moving to womens rights.

Martial rape, for instance, was crimalised in Italy in 1976 and only 1991 in the UK. In Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Brunei. Egypt, Eiterea, Ethopia, India, Iran, Iraq, Jordon, Libya, Morocco, Nigeria, North Korea, Palestine, Saudia Arabia, South Sudan, Syria, UAE, Yemen it is not illegal.

On marriage age, Africa lowest is Sudan at puberty. Iran it is 13. Afghanistan 15 but many marry younger. Qatar no min age. Pakistan 50% girls marry under age of 18. Lebanon 9 with  judicial permission for Shi'a. Syria from 13.  Child marriage rates in Bangladesh are among the highest in the world. Every 2 out of 3 marriages involve child marriages.

Rights for divorce. No-fault divorce is allowed in Muslim societies, although normally only with the consent of the husband. A wife seeking divorce is normally required to give one of several specific justifications.If the man seeks divorce or was divorced, he has to cover the expenses of his ex-wife feeding his child and expenses of the child until the child is two years old (that is if the child is under two years old). The child is still the child of the couple despite the divorce. If it is the wife who seeks divorce, she must go to a court. She must provide evidence of ill treatment, inability to sustain her financially, sexual impotence on the part of the husband, her dislike of his looks, etc. The husband may be given time to fix the problem, but if he fails, the appointed judge will grant divorce should the couple still wish to be divorced.

It is fair to say there have been lots of changes in the rights of women and same-sex relationships in the west during the last 100 years and parts of the rest of the world are behind us. Importing people who have entrenched views that child marriage, martial rape and death penalties for same sex relationships are part of their cultural/legal frameworks is not necessary good for the UK.

People like PP must know this. They must see the incompatibility. Italy has a lot more values in common with the UK than Saudi Arabia or Pakistan and therefore surely people from there are more likely to assimilate.

But that has nothing to do with biological nationality. That's what I was talking about. We've been over this before I remember (this place truly has become Punxsutawney!)

That all sounds like too much trouble , keep them out
after all there is nothing to be gained whatsoever so yes too much trouble sorry

There is no good reason why Britain should have to accomadate different and often abhorrent cultures that if taken to the logical conclusion threaten all our freedoms

Now I don’t care if there are a few Italian people living in England , that’s fine
But I don’t want millions of them , not even from that lovely country

Pakistan ? well they have I think just spared a young Christian woman who was sentenced to death for blasphemy and had spent the last 10 years I think in jail and after 2 people who tried to help her have been murdered

She was of course reported for blasphemy by her Muslim neighbours , that’s Pakistan

Now why again are we allowing people from Pakistan to come to Britain ?

I don’t know

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But that has nothing to do with biological nationality. That's what I was talking about.

^

Of course it doesn't.

Why are you bringing biology into this?

It is cultural from the influences (religious or otherwise) in peoples' lives.

My point is do we want people with state sponsored 'backward' attitudes to women and same-sex relationships flooding into the west?

What was Asia Bibi accused of?

The trial stems from an argument Asia Bibi, whose full name is Asia Noreen, had with a group of women in June 2009.

They were harvesting fruit when a row broke out about a bucket of water. The women said that because she had used a cup, they could no longer touch it, as her faith had made it unclean.

Prosecutors alleged that in the row which followed, the women said Asia Bibi should convert to Islam and that she made three offensive comments about the Prophet Muhammad in response.

She was later beaten up at her home, during which her accusers say she confessed to blasphemy. She was arrested after a police investigation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-46040515

Yes she spent 10 years on death row for drinking from a jug of water and was reported by her fellow Muslim farmworkers because she was a Christian
Then they went beserk and reported her and murdered people
That’s Pakistan

Ah sorry trilby just saw your post

Snap lfc

These filth calling Christian's blasphemers?  That does make me mad

Too many apostrophes

Now I don’t want people from a country like that coming to Britain , why ? because the people are the country and the country is the people
That’s Pakistan , and that is what they are like , sorry

Change the people in a country and the people don’t change , the country  changes
that’s not good

I really can't understand people that disagree with your last two posts, lfc.  Do you?  Does anyone?  Perhaps they could explain, please?

The people make the country but the country does not make the people. For instance, the contrast between countries like Singapore and Japan - both small - with little or no natural resource/s yet admired and respected in the world as opposed to some African ones with huge natural resources but ravaged by corruption and nepotism.

pipe down Lambeth you ignorant c@ nt

Quite right. Absolutely no need for that Lambeth.

PorcupineorPineapple • November 3, 2018 10:32 AM GMT
Can't remember now. Seem to have been dragged into one of the circles of hell on here with a whole pack of sea lions. Bailing out.

Always a good idea when your argument has no logical foundation . Would be preferable to 'bail out' before reverting to name calling though ..... 'tiresome little twerp' , 'blert' etc.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/huddersfield-grooming-scandal-just-sta...

I note police are asking for information of three men who gang raped a young woman in yorkshire (well I never - wot is it about yorkshire)

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/03/young-woman-gang-raped-by-three-men-on-early-morning-walk-8101491/

anyway  there are no descriptions of any kind and are asking about any men being seen in the area
it would be nice it the police could give us a clue
I always find this most odd

so..........????

Both Sara and Sammy believe the only way to stem the flow of grooming gangs is to teach boys about consent and respect for women.

Sara said: “This is about how those men view these girls as having no value.”

This is a crucial factor and one that needs examining. If their culture/upbringing gives this belief then how can it be changed when people come to the UK?

It starts at conception. Gender based abortions among some communities are rife.

'PARENTS-to-be should be banned from using a blood test to determine the gender of their baby in the early stages of pregnancy, Labour has said.

Labour MP Naz Shah, shadow minister for women and equalities, said a preference for boys in some cultures could force expecting mothers and fathers "to adopt methods such as NIPT (non ivasive pre natal test) to live up to expectations of family members".'

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/16884179.naz-shah-mp-calls-for-r...

stick your pipe up yer mersey scouse filth

Thick ****** thinks I’m from Liverpool

keep yer nose out then busy ****

: ) now I know you’re not just thick but a hypocrite also ,
Take your own advise that’s a good boy

My question is regardless of the ethnicity or " colour " of the perpetrators should we as a society not be doing more to protect our " CHILDREN "!

How were these grooming a gangs allowed to carry on unfettered for so long?

Where were the Police

Where were the care workers

Where were Social Services and where were the parents

Where were the locals when this was going on under their noses?

Rapist Squads Given a free Card to run riot..

Just to give you guys a heads up about Porcupinepineapple. This is a man who not only wrote a disgusting post on the poppy appeal thread, he now thinks it is acceptable to call others "sea lions" which is a very derogatory and offensive term for Jewish people.

Really casemoney?

Seeing as you know this information, who exactly gave them a free card?

Torq - if it's anything to do with jews than it'd be news to me.

Why don't you try and be an adult instead of a six year old trying to get others in trouble because you can't win any other way.

Why is seal ions derogatory and offensive as a matter of interest?

Anymore British Pakistani Muslim making the headlines, good or bad?

News to you? Lefty in anti Jewish slur shocker, pleads ignorance. Yeah, right, pull the other one, it's got bells on.

Mr 123- its early on a Saturday night, give them time.
Having read these posts and having never heard of Sea Lion as a derog term, I decided to poll several of my Jewish friends. Not one had heard of this apart from one who is fluent in hebrew. He said that the hebrew term for sea lion literally meant sea dog. So, as much as I dislike and disagree with PP on everything. he would have to knowledgeable of hebrew or incredibly well read. I doubt he is either. He is just a very naughty boy. Perhaps he read it in the Guardian or heard it at a Labour party meeting.

casemoney • November 3, 2018 5:21 PM GMT
My question is regardless of the ethnicity or " colour " of the perpetrators should we as a society not be doing more to protect our " CHILDREN "!

How were these grooming a gangs allowed to carry on unfettered for so long? ........ Because the perpetrators were/are deemed untouchable .

Where were the Police ........ They were aware of these crimes but chose to ignore the victims and took no action .

Where were the care workers ......... They were aware that children were 'going missing' but ignored their duty of care .

Where were Social Services and where were the parents ..............  Not sure how many victims were in the care of their parents but Social Services were almost certainly complicit in these crimes .

Where were the locals when this was going on under their noses? ...........Either participating or turning a blind eye and keeping their mouths shut .

Rapist Squads Given a free Card to run riot........... It appears to be the case and it probably continuing unabated .

Torq - I suggest you Google sea lion debate or something similar.
And then google when you should expect your voice to break you baby.

PP - why don't you make a rational argument rather than hurling insults at those whose opinion differs to yours ? Or are insults the easier option ?

pp wasn’t being racist it’s as simple as that

Khan repeatedly banged on about his roots ie Pakistani bus driver, etc, etc, but not a whisper regarding the heinous crimes of the British Pakistani Muslims in Rotherdam and Huddersfield. Maybe I would drop him a line for a response, hopefully.

Whether he was being racist or not , there is no place for name calling within a reasoned debate ................ unless you feel that the debate is not going your way

It’s important not to call someone racist when he wasn’t being racist

Khan fully Aware of the prosecution Rapist Geezers nationwide  ,Not a Comment

If I remember correctly in the late 80's a senior police officer once commented 95% of street muggings were committed by an ethnic group comprising less than 5% of the population; clear and succinct who he was referring to without actually naming the ethnic group.

The old Snack bar Punters must be high up in the Sex case ratings .

Reynard 19:33

Cough Big Nose

......................

Investigators are working to trace a total of 426 grooming gang members who abused an estimated 1,500 victims in Rotherham.

The National Crime Agency (NCA) investigation into sexual exploitation between 1997 and 2013 has so far resulted in 13 convictions, as prosecutions continue.

The operation, codenamed Stovewood, could cost £90m if the government continues its current funding until 2024.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/grooming-gangs-rotherham-suspects-victims-girls-rape-uk-nca-prosecutions-a8609511.html?fbclid=IwAR3-jzmBV0znYa7BIpoOx76kMb2XJTAE9nFxsZS5J4Ur01wYfW11kSrWYn8

Prosecutors said the victims were frequently in cars stopped by police, but their abusers were not deterred.

Operation Stovewood was set up in the wake of the 2014 Jay Report, which laid bare the shocking scale of exploitation in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013 and failure of police and social services to intervene.

Many survivors have since suffered the long-term effects of abuse, including mental health issues, damaging relationships, drug and alcohol addiction and suicidal tendencies.

You would think the authorities have got the message by now but no.  Still trying to play it down.
Like the senior Telford copper coming on and telling us that it is sensationalism to report 40 years of recognised abuse in the town when in fact police hadn't acted according to one police officer and Telford had a higher rate of abuse per capita than most towns elsewhere.!!!   Hmmmm!!!

You see - they are still trying to cover it up or try to obfuscate, deflect and excuse.
I think it is too filthy/nasty/disgusting for it to be a country wide topic of outrage.  The tv media simply want to avoid it where possible.  The dainty presenters don't really want to get the fingers dirty or be associated with investigations like these but are happy to go on a 'plastic' or 'voting' campaign.  Much 'cleaner'.

Then there are the 4 million voters the politicians do not want to upset.   Form the waggons in a ring and hope it will fade away.

the Filth coming to a Town near you ... get on the next FLA march

Only reading forums etc do I realise that there are still towns where, apart from the corner shop man, there aren't any.

Thank you Reynard!

I would like to hope we might have different views but we are not the enemy! These scumbags who have perpetrated these vile obscenities are. Furthermore we need to know why the Police and Social Services did not protect these children!

Because they were obeying their Orwellian masters , many of whom were complicit , some directly involved .
I read an article yesterday where , yet again , concerned parents reported their children missing and were simply told by the police that they couldn't or wouldn't do anything .
Another case where there was so much DNA evidence in/on the victim that they were unable , or maybe unwilling , to build a case against the rapists because there were simply too many !

The sheer scale of this epidemic is beyond the comprehension of normal folk like you and I , but I can't help wondering if the number of victims would be considerably fewer if the authorities had acted sooner . I guess we'll never know ........

i would hope someone starts a POCA review or the like on all involved , afterall they are usually money mad in general and i would have thought money was defo traded.. 1.01 they would find plenty of scams going on.

May I direct you to the numbers the girls claim - imagine multiplying 1500 by 30 50 or even a 100
that is one town

multiply by whatever towns you are aware of

but the community did not know

so who were these girls pimped out to??

plenty of Taxis must have used..i wonder if Panorama will do an undercover sting  they seem to like exposing football thugs who only seem to attack the like minded,, how many kids lives have ruined by football hooligans ??

must be at least urrrm .........  several I wreck on

Watched Peston this morning. He quizzed Sajid Javid about his tweet regarding Asian grooming gangs. The tweet was

                  These sick Asian paedophiles are finally facing
                  justice. I want to commend the bravery of the
                  victims. For too long , they were ignored. Not on
                  my watch. There will be no go-to areas.

Pestons line of questioning was "Why is it obvious, that it's Asian gangs committing these crimes" In the background was the mug shots of the perpetrators, all Asian. You really couldn't make it up !

ASIAN??  run that past me again.   All inclusive eh??   I laughed when they showed the 'sikh' leader at the head of the pics etc - so funny - he was a muslim when all the disgusting behaviour was going on.

and what does the media do - perpetuates the distraction and obvious propaganda

what next?

but the chinese, malay, hindu, thai,japanese, indonesian, sikh, cambodian might not be so keen on being included in this broad sweep