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By:
donny osmond
When: 29 Oct 18 20:55
not many sprint medals for kenya and ethiopia, mainly
800m and up,

started to establish themselves in 60s,

......almost certainly some will be on drugs, as its widespread
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 29 Oct 18 21:00
Kenya suddenly got better though in the last 10 years

.......Gold....Silver...Bronze....Total
2016 - 6        6    1    13
2012 - 2    4    7    13
2008 - 6    4    6    16
2004 - 1    4    2    7
2000 - 2    3    2    7
1996 - 1    4    3    8
1992 - 2    4    2    8
1988 - 4    2    1    7
By:
donny osmond
When: 29 Oct 18 21:03
we got better too, !
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 29 Oct 18 21:05
donny Britain had a sudden and massive injection of lottery cash 4-5 Olympics ago, don't think Kenya had any money.
By:
Sica Dan
When: 29 Oct 18 21:15
Britain  has had a massive injection of very fast athletes of West Indian origin.
By:
donny osmond
When: 29 Oct 18 21:16
indeed, but its possible they sorted out their awful infrastructure, ..got athletes into
usa uni system, developed female talent too, and also had a delivery of vicks inhalers
By:
dave1357
When: 29 Oct 18 21:26

Oct 29, 2018 -- 9:15PM, Sica Dan wrote:


Britain

By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 21:31
To gain an evolutionary advantage you don’t have to be able to run faster than a lion, you have to be able to run faster than the person beside you
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 29 Oct 18 21:41
that's why we like you lfc, there's nobody else on this forum that could have put that groun breaking revelation forward with a straight face Laugh

indeed donny, but have been question marks over the lax drug testing by authorties in that region, they suddenly became amazingly good at Javelin too.
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 21:42
: )
By:
dave1357
When: 29 Oct 18 21:46

Oct 29, 2018 -- 9:31PM, lfc1971 wrote:


To gain an evolutionary advantage you don’t have to be able to run faster than a lion, you have to be able to run faster than the person beside you


I know you are joking, but the advantage would actually be to stand still as the lion will instinctively chase the runner (fast or slow).

By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 21:47
dave no ones going to do that now are they ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 21:51
that might be the intelligent thing to do ( I don’t know)

but strangely intelligence can be an evolutionary disadvantage

less intelligent people can often do better , that’s why intelligence is so rare
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 29 Oct 18 21:53
. https://youtu.be/TBpu4DAvwI8?t=160
By:
dave1357
When: 29 Oct 18 22:05
that's quite remarkable, when I said above that lions "will generally run away as soon as they see us."  When they have a kill was one of the exceptions I thought.
By:
dave1357
When: 29 Oct 18 22:08
I was in a restaurant in Paris that had various game and odd meats on the menu - I asked the waiter what kangaroo tasted like and he said "a bit like wallaby".
By:
Sica Dan
When: 29 Oct 18 22:29
if chased by a bear should you run uphill or downhill?
By:
Facts
When: 30 Oct 18 05:33

lfc1971    29 Oct 18 20:51 
that might be the intelligent thing to do ( I don’t know)

but strangely intelligence can be an evolutionary disadvantage

less intelligent people can often do better , that’s why intelligence is so rare





.....as illustrated by your good self.
By:
lfc1971
When: 30 Oct 18 09:08
yes that’s true, a person can be not very clever as long as he knows how to adapt
Then all is not lost
And he can come through better than someone stuffed with knowledge
too much information can lead to worse decisions that’s even true in betting and stock market etc, funny that
By:
northanlite
When: 30 Oct 18 11:25
throwing stuff was the game changer. some human like peoples were discovered in india but they had no rotator cuffs. in other words they could not rotate their arms above their heads.
many of the skulls had damage to them, they suspect by **** sapiens launching rocks at them.
physically they were much bigger and stronger than **** sapiens but slower and would not have been able to compete at tennis at all.
By:
northanlite
When: 30 Oct 18 11:26
in summary, throwing stuff then running away wins every time
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 30 Oct 18 12:40

Oct 29, 2018 -- 9:00PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


Kenya suddenly got better though in the last 10 years.......Gold....Silver...Bronze....Total2016 - 6        6    1    132012 - 2    4    7    132008 - 6    4    6    162004 - 1    4    2    72000 - 2    3    2    71996 - 1    4    3    81992 - 2    4    2    81988 - 4    2    1    7


The blood building PEDS that are available very cheaply are strongly encouraged by the Athletics officials who are making huge sums from sponsorships on the back of the successes of their athletes only report the occasional fail to 'prove' that they're drug testing correctly.
Like many others Jamaica especially they have to decide who,when and why a particular athlete gets thrown under the bus,plenty documentaries showing the truth behind the 'sport'.
As for our successes we play the TUE system to the hilt and UKAD have huge loopholes surrounding out of competition testing and what can be taken then.
Billy Joe Saunders had been playing the game unfortunately his opponent had Victor Conte on his side who showed everything for what it is and he had to vacate or have a legal battle after failing the VADA testing system.
Radcliffe typifies the TUE exploitation to the hilt,she is an anaemic,asthmatic white woman with the most inefficient running style in history yet she has ran the FASTEST LIKE FOR LIKE MARATHON IN HISTORY like for like being male vs female time beating the times of all the blood doping and EPO cheats and it still hasn't been broken.

By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 30 Oct 18 12:41
*The first sentence was about African countries Kenya in paricular*
By:
Just Checking
When: 30 Oct 18 14:23
Throwing stuff isn't that unique!

A load of monkeys stoned an old guy to death in india the other day, apparently they took a load of bricks up a tree then chucked them at him as he went by trying to find firewood Sad
By:
RacingCert
When: 30 Oct 18 14:30
After his footie game in Oz he’s set another world record apparently.
He can trap a ball further than most people can kick it. First touch not very good.
By:
donny osmond
When: 30 Oct 18 18:15
must be odd taking up another sport having been best in world at your no1 sport

ivan lendl spent some time trying to be a pro golfer, without sucess

it looks like his daughter may well be a better golfer than him !
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 30 Oct 18 18:28
Bolt is one of the most protected athletes in history the cash cow that keeps giving.
Strange how Bolt's coach Glen Mills has been linked to the dark side for donkeys' years and even had athletes under his care be sacrificed and tested positive,yet the one person who defies all natural possibilities of human performance is natural and doesn't need the chemical assistance of Mills and co.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 30 Oct 18 18:30
Even after controversies in Jamaican athletics went public Bolt didn't distance himself from Mills which is a strange decision for the most naturally gifted athlete in the history of mankind.
By:
donny osmond
When: 30 Oct 18 18:44
would think the hackers would have found any dirt on bolt ???

he pretty much had a bigger stride than the others, 4 less strides over
100m is a huge advantage

not saying he never took anything, nor that he did. indeed there are so many
legal supplements and top ups that seem to be allowed, or were allowed
or might now be allowed on the blood passport system that they've
rather made as big a mess for themselves as the cheats were trying
to achieve.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 30 Oct 18 19:03
The more complicated it has become suits everyone bar those that can't win,think the goalposts will have been moved on what is 'normal' blood data over the years as nobody Elite and capable of medalling can be 100% natural.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 30 Oct 18 19:18
Passed every drug test, where many other failed, and had to take a test after every single win, he won more than anyone else during his career.
Hackers never found anything.
Takes about 41 strides to win a race, which was 1.5 less than Gatlin in London, 4.5 less than Gay.

Innocent til proven guilty. But always have to keep an open mind with athletes.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 30 Oct 18 19:33
Passing drug tests doesn't prove an athlete hasn't done wrong as organisations have NEVER been fit for purpose,Victor Conte and others proved how ridiculous the testing systems are and there's plenty evidence of corruption at the IAAF between top officials in fact it's a great earner for them.
Plus the pass or fail lies with the Federation in question there is no zero tolerance fails have been known to disappear or be allowed to stand,usually a fail is a balls up by the athlete or coach as is any out of competition fails which allows 2 dodged tests to make sure less produce a fail.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 30 Oct 18 19:53
that's why I said you have to keep an open mind, if he has taken drugs, more likely to find out in the next few years as re-testing techniques become even more sophisticated, same way past cheats have been caught and stripped of their medals. Some athletes this year alone including Kelly Sotherton was bumped up two places to Bronze 10 years after Beijing in 2008!
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 30 Oct 18 20:23
Indeed.
By:
Injera
When: 30 Oct 18 21:48
At 6ft 5 Bolt has an extraordinary physique for the 100m. Which other track  athlete comes close to that height?

Taking on the West African theme, the physiques of many Prem footballers stand out. Sissoko and Sanchez of Spurs are beasts. Yaya Toure is a monster. Diame at Newcastle, Viera and even Henry who was tall AND very quick. Drogba was like a machine. Few Europeans come close to such physicality.

Denzil will know more but I would have thought illegal drugs are more effective in stamina events rather than short sprints?

Radcliffe is a mystery to me. A truly staggering WR for the marathon.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 30 Oct 18 21:55

Oct 30, 2018 -- 9:48PM, Injera wrote:


At 6ft 5 Bolt has an extraordinary physique for the 100m. Which other track  athlete comes close to that height? Taking on the West African theme, the physiques of many Prem footballers stand out. Sissoko and Sanchez of Spurs are beasts. Yaya Toure is a monster. Diame at Newcastle, Viera and even Henry who was tall AND very quick. Drogba was like a machine. Few Europeans come close to such physicality.Denzil will know more but I would have thought illegal drugs are more effective in stamina events rather than short sprints?Radcliffe is a mystery to me. A truly staggering WR for the marathon.


Most PEDs have a crossover of benefits I would also think like for like benefits in distance events would be greater,though heard Victor Conte talk of the improvements they made with Tim Montgomery in the weights room which transferred straight onto the track can't remember the exact numbers but was staggering.

By:
wolf3011
When: 31 Oct 18 18:23

Oct 29, 2018 -- 4:41PM, northanlite wrote:


nope. a horse can't run 26 miles non stop without needing a rest. they can walk & canter a bit but can't run it


A horse can cover more distance than a human in a 24 hour period so whether its classified as gallop/canter/wanking is irrelevant

By:
wolf3011
When: 31 Oct 18 18:25
meant to say walking lol ^^
By:
wolf3011
When: 31 Oct 18 18:33
Even a cheetah would cover more ground- it would stop after gaining several miles and start again
By:
donny osmond
When: 31 Oct 18 18:40
i think the problem would be getting it to run the course

with a name like cheetah, well, you just know its looking for a short cut.


probably like dick dastardly in wacky races
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