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By:
Capt__F
When: 29 Oct 18 00:47
thought frankie small plane ?
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 29 Oct 18 01:13
Cheers Capt_F didnt get many facts right on that one, but the similarities to Matthew Harding are frightening. He was also revered by the fans. And Colin Mcrae was a national hero.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 29 Oct 18 01:40

Oct 29, 2018 -- 12:47AM, Capt__F wrote:


thought frankie small plane ?


Aye spot on

By:
Latalomne
When: 30 Oct 18 11:37

Oct 29, 2018 -- 1:13AM, doantwin2easy wrote:


Cheers Capt_F didnt get many facts right on that one, but the similarities to Matthew Harding are frightening. He was also revered by the fans. And Colin Mcrae was a national hero.


Colin McRae wasn't legal to be doing what he was doing.  As great a rally driver as he was, he killed himself and three innocents (two of them young children), by being a dick.

By:
The Leopard
When: 30 Oct 18 13:34
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6331223/BBC-Sport-Editor-Dan-Roan-slammed-fans-claiming-beauty-queen-billionaires-MISTRESS.html
By:
Facts
When: 30 Oct 18 14:50
Haven't seen scumbag Lord Sugar apologising for tweeting that the owners sister had been on board the helicopter !!!
By:
Emitdeb
When: 30 Oct 18 16:19
Spose, the fact is she was his mistress. Just insensitive / rude to say so..  Confused
By:
impossible123
When: 31 Oct 18 16:37
Not the correct moment regardless given the incident. Wholly disrespectful and unprofessional to be opining or voicing a private thought/belief next to the dead man's memorial; the tragic event is still very raw!
By:
The Leopard
When: 31 Oct 18 21:41
A Fatal Accident Inquiry into the incident concluded, on 6 September 2011, that McRae was at fault for the avoidable helicopter crash that led to his death and the death of his passengers.[43] Sheriff Nikola Stewart stated, after the 16-day inquiry, that McRae had been engaged in "unnecessary and unsafe" low-level flying at the time of the crash.[44][45][46]

Sheriff Stewart concluded that the accident might have been avoided if McRae had not flown into the Mouse Valley. For a private pilot such as McRae, without enough experience, low-level flying in that terrain was very imprudent.[46]
By:
moisok
When: 31 Oct 18 21:44
MAINTENANCE
By:
Steve Voltage
When: 31 Oct 18 21:45
My mate reckons the Leicester helicopter collided with a drone. This true?
By:
moisok
When: 31 Oct 18 21:47
Have any of you been near, operated with or  in or even flown in a bag of nails???
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Oct 18 21:51

Oct 31, 2018 -- 9:45PM, Steve Voltage wrote:


My mate reckons the Leicester helicopter collided with a drone. This true?


The police confirmed their one was on the ground but the possibility another one may have been in the area was a potential line of inquiry.

Personally, I think all of the stuff flying around in the video the Sun has got hold of is just bugs/leaves and none of it is within a country mile of the helicopter.

By:
GoBallistic
When: 31 Oct 18 22:15
Some newspaper front page headlines were describing the pilot as a hero. I guess saying he steered away from people on the ground ?  From the video it doesn't look like he has any control to steer anywhere
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Oct 18 22:21
Given how violently it spun, he wouldn't have had any control over where it was pointing, but he would likely have tried to get it down ASAP (by dropping the collective).  Without looking at a map, I've no idea how bad it could have got if he'd left the confines of the ground?
By:
tictacman1
When: 01 Nov 18 00:23
The helicopter crash that killed Leicester City's billionaire owner and four others was caused by the tail rotor breaking off in mid-air, a senior crash investigator said today.

New footage appears to show large pieces or even the entire tail rotor may have come off before the helicopter fell into a 'dead man's curve'.


The take off looked normal but as it hovered above the stadium you can see pieces falling away. It looks like it was from the rear rotor blade,' he said.

'The spinning around five seconds later is consistent with a tail rotor breaking off. There are lots of pieces flying around. If you lose a large proportion of the blade you get a very large imbalance and pull the whole tail rotor off the aircraft'.
By:
Steve Voltage
When: 01 Nov 18 07:05
How the hell did he ever get permission to be allowed to land on the pitch?

The risks are obvious is this seems like a case of money talks. Does this mean that anyone who owns a helicopter and lives in the middle of a city and has the room to land/takeoff can do so?

Do other football chairman do this?

The Leicester Royal Infirmary is very close to the King Power but helicopters do not land there even with emergency cases.
By:
trilby22
When: 01 Nov 18 07:32
Don't be silly Steve.

I've only seen the blurred vid and can't see any "bits" but that most certainly is a rear rotor failure.

Could a drone have hit it?
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Nov 18 07:37

Nov 1, 2018 -- 12:23AM, tictacman1 wrote:


The helicopter crash that killed Leicester City's billionaire owner and four others was caused by the tail rotor breaking off in mid-air, a senior crash investigator said today.New footage appears to show large pieces or even the entire tail rotor may have come off before the helicopter fell into a 'dead man's curve'.The take off looked normal but as it hovered above the stadium you can see pieces falling away. It looks like it was from the rear rotor blade,' he said.'The spinning around five seconds later is consistent with a tail rotor breaking off. There are lots of pieces flying around. If you lose a large proportion of the blade you get a very large imbalance and pull the whole tail rotor off the aircraft'.


The former (Sky seem to have left that bit out) senior crash investigator clearly hasn't seen the pictures of the wreckage showing at least 1.75 of the 3 tail rotor blades still in situ! 

Steve - It's far less dangerous than most of the spots we're all quite happy for air ambulances to land....  The odds of a tail rotor failure are miniscule (yet it seemingly still happened) and you cannot take ALL risk out of flying whilst still continuing to do it.  You can't legislate for everything.

By:
Steve Voltage
When: 01 Nov 18 08:31
The Nottingham/Leicester heliport is located approx 10 miles from Leicester in a remote area off the A46. It is in a remote location for a reason. Seems odd that permission was ever granted to allow the King Power as a regular takeoff/landing zone.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Nov 18 08:47
I will respectfully agree to disagree.

Check out where Battersea Heliport is in London.
By:
impossible123
When: 01 Nov 18 12:51
Where does the US President's helicopter land? Some distance from The White Horse or next to it?
By:
tictacman1
When: 01 Nov 18 14:26
The south lawn provides space for the Presidents helicopter, Marine One, to land directly on the White House grounds.

The helicopter will take off and land in the grassy area directly south of the main residence.
By:
impossible123
When: 01 Nov 18 15:37
Thanks. It's just that it had been suggested the Leicester City helicopter had an unusually difficult take-off manoeuvre to execute ie upright take-off, until clearing the stadium, and this could have put enormous stress on the engine and rotor blades contributing to the accident.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Nov 18 15:48
It's actually a backwards climbing take-off, rather than 'upright'.  I had the opportunity to fly with the Met Police Air Support Unit a few years ago now, and this was the departure method employed by them, rather than a straight vertical climb-out, as it gives the opportunity to land back on the spot you've just lifted from in the event or engine failure or rejecting the take-off for other reasons. 

Chat about additional stress is BS, IMHO.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Nov 18 15:51
* the end of paragraph 1 above obviously assumes directional control has not been lost.
By:
leazes67
When: 01 Nov 18 15:51
Do helicopters not need forward momentum after reaching a certain height?
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Nov 18 15:52
Yes, but, that is achieved by pitching the nose down.
By:
leazes67
When: 01 Nov 18 15:53
Ah ok.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 01 Nov 18 15:56
Wondering if there's any possibility that the co-pilot was in control at the time...
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Nov 18 15:59
Highly unlikely, since she was not a qualified rotary-wing pilot.  The AW169 (the type in question) is certified for single-pilot operations, so she was likely just there to keep the pilot company, possibly to operate the radios, keep a lookout etc.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 01 Nov 18 16:34
they were a couple werent they so would make sense.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Nov 18 17:35
That's right, yeah.
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