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By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 28 Oct 18 23:51
When President Obama was in office I seem to remember, from this side of the Atlantic, there appeared to be a civil war going on in the USA between the US Police force and the black community, with casulties every day, this  was NOT THE FAULT OF PRESIDENT OBAMA.

So a seemingly insane anti Semite killing 11 Jews is NOT THE FAULT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.

In fact the USA should be grateful they elected President TRUMP, since his opponent Hilary Clinton proposed to let Muslims
into the United States, something TRUMP will not allow. Since Muslims don't like Jews much either, he was actually protecting Jews in America,from possible attacks by any Muslim immigrant lunatics.

Just an observation
By:
woundedknee
When: 28 Oct 18 23:52
Study... if the BBC  aint Left Wing ... What position is it ?
By:
Torquemada
When: 29 Oct 18 00:00
Left wing politics has harboured anti semites for a long time.
By:
moisok
When: 29 Oct 18 00:01
check out the 4 million voters in the uk if you want to see which way this will go.
By:
Torquemada
When: 29 Oct 18 00:06
The muslim vote you mean moisok? I wonder what percentage of muslim voters vote Labour? Be interesting to know. I'd also like to know what percentage of those living on benefits vote Labour.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Oct 18 00:17
Well the everything comes from one source.

The Palestinians believe the Jews have stolen part of Palestine when modern Israel was created.

The Palestinians are Muslims, so have used this card to gather support from other Muslim countries.
Which is all a bit sad because this is all about territory, not religion at all, oh well.

I have some sympathy with the Palestinians over this situation, but I am afraid Israel is here to stay.
The Jews are NOT going to leave, they want there own country, which if I was a Jew I would want as well.
They were not treated well when they were away from their own country, they were expelled by the Roman Emperor Hadrian.

The only healer is time. The longer Israel exists the better  claim it has.

You see all countries were created by war at time one or another.

I would like to see more help to the Palestinians from any source. NOT MILITARY HELP, economic help give them a better life.
I don't like to see all these camps, just breeds violence.


Just my own view on this of course
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Oct 18 00:31
When I say all countries were created by war, actually modern Israel was created by our country Britain,
using the Balfour declaration, taking part of Palestine.

But they have fought and won three wars in defending Israel against Arab countries in sympathy with the Palestinians
In 1947, 1964 and 1972...so yes they have won it by war.


I apologise for going on a bitBlush, I love history...but we do need at times to look for causes of modern troubles
in past History.
By:
northanlite
When: 29 Oct 18 02:19

Oct 29, 2018 -- 12:17AM, UBLE/REGY wrote:


Well the everything comes from one source.The Palestinians believe the Jews have stolen part of Palestine when modern Israel was created.The Palestinians are Muslims, so have used this card to gather support from other Muslim countries.Which is all a bit sad because this is all about territory, not religion at all, oh well.I have some sympathy with the Palestinians over this situation, but I am afraid Israel is here to stay.The Jews are NOT going to leave, they want there own country, which if I was a Jew I would want as well.They were not treated well when they were away from their own country, they were expelled by the Roman Emperor Hadrian.The only healer is time. The longer Israel exists the better  claim it has.You see all countries were created by war at time one or another.I would like to see more help to the Palestinians from any source. NOT MILITARY HELP, economic help give them a better life.I don't like to see all these camps, just breeds violence.Just my own view on this of course


The Palestinians didn't "believe" anything about their land being taken, They knew it happened. Many still hold the deeds.

By:
timbuctooth
When: 29 Oct 18 05:15
But they`re FAKE, aren`t they! As you well know, muslims stole the land, and the Jews are reclaiming what is their God-given birthright from these squatters. Why do you lefties persist in plying these lies? Do you not tire of being exposed?
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 07:22
Let’s make it quite clear , anyone who wants to see another Muslim country anywhere in the world is an idiot
By:
northanlite
When: 29 Oct 18 09:31
therein lies the problem. how far do you go back?
all i'm saying is that Palestinians held actual legal documents. to say "the jews" are reclaiming is just ridiculous. reclaiming from when exactly?
and which jews are reclaiming which bit of land? in biblical times pretty much everyone from that region was a jew.
"God-given birthright" aye right i dare say you are not jewish? are you giving them what they say is their "God given right" on everything then?
By:
northanlite
When: 29 Oct 18 09:35
don't get me wrong, the jewish people have been treated appallingly throughout the ages but that doesn't give them the right to
treat others similarly.
the jewish people generally got far better treatment from the Islamic nations than they did from the so called christian ones.
By:
saddo
When: 29 Oct 18 09:52
Meanwhile increasing swathes of England are being taken by Muslims and we are not allowed to criticise this, funny old world.
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 09:53
The land had both Jewish and Palestinians living there under the British mandate , before that it was under ottoman rule , whatever

In 1947 because the UN voted to split the land into two sections , something that has happened in many countries ie Czech Republic / Slovakia etc
and most recently Yugoslavia

Almost all Jews moved to their section and most Arabs moved to theirs

Any land that may have been lost after this solution was due to the sporadic violence leading to refugees

No violence , no loss of land
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Oct 18 09:59
increasing swathes of England are being taken by Muslims


Holy sh!t. Being taken. What a wetwipe!
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 10:06
When or if muslims become a majority in Britain then Britain will cease to exist
Don’t forget there are more foreigners living in England and the U.K. than there are Scots for example
So yes , we are giving our own country away
By:
northanlite
When: 29 Oct 18 10:11
and how exactly will "muslims become a majority in Britain"
you are either taking the p1ss or need to get your medication increased
By:
saddo
When: 29 Oct 18 10:13
By doubling in number every ten years, maths does not lie.
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 10:16
You do know that London now has a majority of non British people don’t you

You do know that there are more foreigners living in London and a few more cities that Scots in the whole of Scotland don’t you

How do you think that happened ?
By:
saddo
When: 29 Oct 18 10:18
I'm not sure everyone is aware of the true growth lfc, they will be after the 2021 census.
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 10:20
So they , have more votes , they have a bigger say , they have more of the resources , they have more power in Britain now , not later but now ,
than the Scots , that’s now
How do you think that happened ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 10:24
Wales and N Ireland ?
Well N Ireland has 1.5 million people as part of the U.K.
how many foreigners live in London alone ?
By:
saddo
When: 29 Oct 18 10:25
northanlite    29 Oct 18 09:11 
and how exactly will "muslims become a majority in Britain"




This is very puzzling, denial?
By:
cooperman
When: 29 Oct 18 10:25
Almost 300 mass shootings in America in 2018 so far.
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 10:26
America is a multi cultural society , multicultural societies are always more violent societies
By:
northanlite
When: 29 Oct 18 10:35
i see you have switched from muslims to a more generic "foreigners"
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 10:38
That’s right , it’s the same principle however just a matter of numbers
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 10:40
I’m sure you will agree it’s the same in Israel and Palestine after all
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 10:51
As it is now muslims can live freely and happily in Israel enjoying the benefits of a free and democratic and open society
That’s good , very good
But if it can’t to a point , sometime , when muslims outnumbered Jews in Israel then the Jewish people and other Muslims living in Israel would no longer live in that same country , and would be in great danger
That’s how it is
By:
lfc1971
When: 29 Oct 18 11:04
What we have to realise is that building a free and peaceful and democratic society is not easy  , it is difficult
We have been very fortunate in this country but it is not guaranteed it is not the norm throughout the world
By:
pumphol.
When: 29 Oct 18 11:43
UBLE/REGY    

But they have fought and won three wars in defending Israel against Arab countries in sympathy with the Palestinians
In 1947, 1964 and 1972


You may love your history but you got all three dates wrong there I presume you mean 1948 1967 & 1974
By:
moisok
When: 29 Oct 18 11:56
it would take 20,000 per constituency, 300 constituencies, to gain hegemony under the current first past the post system - 6 million votes

then you can set about changing all the laws

think about it
By:
saddo
When: 29 Oct 18 12:05
But then we still have people who ask  "and how exactly will muslims become a majority in Britain"



I think they prefer not believe it, kick the can down the road for our unfortunate grandchildren.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 29 Oct 18 12:06
I'm happy to be corrected but I don't think it's accurate to say Britain created Israel.

The Balfour declaration merely confirmed British support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

Britain administered the region after WW1 until 1947 when it passed it over to the UN who divided the area and created the nation in 1948.
By:
crystalhunt
When: 29 Oct 18 12:58
timbuctooth    29 Oct 18 04:15 
But they`re FAKE, aren`t they! As you well know, muslims stole the land, and the Jews are reclaiming what is their God-given birthright from these squatters. Why do you lefties persist in plying these lies? Do you not tire of being exposed?


Did they steal the land in the same way as Europeans stole the land in North America, Australia, New Zealand, South America and South Africa.

There's no such thing as God-given Birthright - you're an evangelical nutter. Sad
By:
Slicer
When: 29 Oct 18 12:59
London Boroughs of Newham and Tower Hamlets 48% Muslim RIGHT NOW! Has anyone else noted the vested interests promoting inter marriage. Look at the adverts on TV and start counting, as well as the insidious introduction of more followers of Islam into ads in a disproportionate number. Over 3 million Muslims and 260k Jews in the UK. Guess who the politicians will try to appeal to. I have posting along these lines for over a decade. But its all too late. Thank goodness I have no kids or grandkids to follow me, so realistically I am not really bothered.

But something really ironic-I attended a funeral of a 2nd World War hero a couple of weeks ago. He had international awards for his heroics. On the very same day, Choudhury was released from prison. Some must be wondering what they fought and died for!!!
By:
Get me a drink
When: 29 Oct 18 13:31
Pawns in the game slicer Sad

It's all engineered to be this way. Nothing you, I or anyone can do without a majority seeing what's going on and taking action. That's not going to happen cos it's all done very gradually over decades so the young don't know any different and/or it's made to look like an organic change.

We all live in a very different country, even to just 40 years ago. They call it progress, but what exactly are we progressing to? Personal freedoms have regressed mightily and are further regressing almost daily.

Won't be long before we can't even talk like this.
By:
Slicer
When: 29 Oct 18 13:40
Agreed Mr Drink!
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 29 Oct 18 14:27

pumphol.
29 Oct 18 10:43
Joined: 29 Jul 04 | Topic/replies: 50,400 | Blogger: pumphol.'s blog
UBLE/REGY     

But they have fought and won three wars in defending Israel against Arab countries in sympathy with the Palestinians
In 1947, 1964 and 1972


You may love your history but you got all three dates wrong there I presume you mean 1948 1967 & 1974


GUILTYBlush, I suspected someone was going to pick me up on them, I am far too casual with my dates


I still stand by my opinion though...still  nobody has to agree with me
By:
northanlite
When: 29 Oct 18 14:37

Oct 29, 2018 -- 12:58PM, crystalhunt wrote:


timbuctooth    29 Oct 18 04:15  But they`re FAKE, aren`t they! As you well know, muslims stole the land, and the Jews are reclaiming what is their God-given birthright from these squatters. Why do you lefties persist in plying these lies? Do you not tire of being exposed?Did they steal the land in the same way as Europeans stole the land in North America, Australia, New Zealand, South America and South Africa.There's no such thing as God-given Birthright - you're an evangelical nutter.


sorry there is no room for reasoned argument on here anymore.
when you read "God given right" you know what you are dealing with

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