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Hank Hill
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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/26/entertainment/sinead-oconnor-ireland-islam-intl/index.html

This is to announce that I am proud to have become a Muslim. This is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian’s journey. All scripture study leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant. I will be given (another) new name. It will be Shuhada’

Having not grown up religious I can't help but find it odd when people hop around from one religion to another. There must be a pun to this story surely, but I'm not seeing it - don't let me down chit chatters

Nothing compares to pew
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Report Crisp77 October 26, 2018 2:39 PM BST
She was attracted by the language.

Nothing compares to Urdu.
Report DenzilPenberthy October 26, 2018 2:45 PM BST
Amazing the lies these types must have to tell themselves just to get through life.
Report themightymac October 26, 2018 2:46 PM BST
LaughLaugh
Report themightymac October 26, 2018 2:46 PM BST
Very good Crisp.
Report Hank Hill October 26, 2018 2:46 PM BST
crisp Laugh
Report Slicer October 26, 2018 2:54 PM BST
Most white female converts to Islam are of a type. You must all decide amongst yourselves the meaning you think they derive in their lives from conversion. Perhaps she just wants to be on the winning side because at the moment in UK and Europe, Allah is beating Jesus and Jehovah.
Report Foinavon October 26, 2018 2:59 PM BST
With reference to her ripping up a picture of the Pope during a TV show

she said in an interview with TIME that she was prompted to do so by the Catholic Church's record of child abuse.
Report Slicer October 26, 2018 3:03 PM BST
Of course, there is no child abuse carried out in the name of Islam, especially in areas like Rotherham.
Report Hank Hill October 26, 2018 3:14 PM BST
I suppose the irony is lost on her that she has joined the religion that worships a pedo
Report moisok October 26, 2018 3:14 PM BST
none at all slicer

or telford, ipswich, rochdale, oxford, newcastle to name but a few
Report Tallywagger. October 26, 2018 3:22 PM BST
All of a sudden I'm against the Burka ban.
Report cardifffc October 26, 2018 3:41 PM BST
hank..........so true
Report cardifffc October 26, 2018 3:49 PM BST
crisp.............wrong religion....Urdu is a language spoken by hindus not muslims
Report crystalhunt October 26, 2018 3:54 PM BST
Urdu is what northern women get before a night outGrin
Report Just Checking October 26, 2018 3:55 PM BST
Wasn't she, to put it politely, "mentally ill" recently. Just saying.

Bono will have to up his game in the attention seeking and right on virtue signalling, this move has certainly upped the ante.

Maybe put a prayer cap on when he prays and grovels to the EU flag during his current series of gigs?
Report Just Checking October 26, 2018 3:58 PM BST
Crisp shuhada seen that correction coming.
Report Crisp77 October 26, 2018 4:06 PM BST

Oct 26, 2018 -- 3:49PM, cardifffc wrote:


crisp.............wrong religion....Urdu is a language spoken by hindus not muslims


You need to Sikh out Wikipedia

Urdu is the national and one of the two official languages of Pakistan, along with English, and is spoken and understood throughout the country

Report cardifffc October 26, 2018 4:17 PM BST
Urdu is spoken by hindus
Report Just Checking October 26, 2018 4:18 PM BST
Only one way to settle this:

Bollywood style dance off.
Report cardifffc October 26, 2018 4:18 PM BST
fine effort though
Report Crisp77 October 26, 2018 4:20 PM BST
Welsh is spoken by hindus too
Report SontaranStratagem October 26, 2018 4:23 PM BST
How long do we give her?

Lindsey Lohan lasted a week before giving up the strict lifestyle

When will they learn we don't care? if she wants to convert that's fine I don't have a problem with it

But do we need to know?
Report Just Checking October 26, 2018 4:30 PM BST
Lohan and O'connor. Two sensible people with their head screwed on Laugh

Is Scientology too mainstream nowadays amongst "celebs"?
Report themightymac October 26, 2018 4:31 PM BST
Urdu is the official language of Pakistan and the last time I looked it was a Moslem country.
Report lovegod October 26, 2018 4:32 PM BST
I got this from another forum, she had a hit with Nothing Compares to Jew, wish she'd make her mind up.
Report Crisp77 October 26, 2018 4:45 PM BST

Oct 26, 2018 -- 4:31PM, themightymac wrote:


Urdu is the official language of Pakistan and the last time I looked it was a Moslem country.


Don't worry...I think the silly old tart is just attention seeking.

Report SontaranStratagem October 26, 2018 4:52 PM BST
Lindsey Lohan is a tragic case of celebrity gone wrong

She was so angelic looking in her late teens Cry
Report impossible123 October 26, 2018 4:56 PM BST
Tbh I do not give a hoot what religion Sinead O'Conner practises as long as she finds solace and peace within herself and/from that religion. However, what irks me a little is their need to announce it to the world - a sense of insecurity perhaps. If so, deal with it, but plz do not use one religion against another for the switch; Islam would not be my religion if I had one.

There are so many civil-minded and caring individuals in the world without a religion. Personally, I'd have a bit of one with another, and another - I'd choose the bits I agreed with - to help to facilitate my way of life, if necessary, but certainly not allegiance to only one. 

Religion is not for everyone thus must not be a hindrance to one's life. Life is too short, and religion ought to be just a side dish (no more) to most these days, I believe.
Report Just Checking October 26, 2018 5:31 PM BST
Lohan looked fine when she was in her big films back in the day, but she wasn't even that old when she started Michael Jackson-ing her face into freakery on a surgeon's table... Very bad idea imho.
Report Facts October 26, 2018 6:28 PM BST
Impossible123

Agreed
Report TheBaron October 26, 2018 6:38 PM BST
I think this one can be filed under "Off her nut"
Report lfc1971 October 26, 2018 6:41 PM BST
May have to ban it , too dangerous
Report Dr Crippen October 26, 2018 6:49 PM BST
People like her do things for publicity.

This should get her some more bookings - come and see the singing letterbox.
Report Reynard October 26, 2018 6:51 PM BST
come and see the singing letterbox.

Nothing to see here . Music is haram Shocked
Report layemall October 26, 2018 7:01 PM BST
Maybe it is a commercial decision to target a rapidly growing potential new audience.....I eagerly await the release of her next album Wink
Report Reynard October 26, 2018 7:08 PM BST
I repeat my previous comment ........... music is haram !
Report lybertyne October 26, 2018 7:24 PM BST
To be expected.  Sinead O'Connor is famous for her mental health problems.
Report ufcdan October 26, 2018 7:36 PM BST
Used to be a half way decent looking girl but hasn't worn well with time so maybe a burka is the order of the day
Report trilby22 October 26, 2018 7:40 PM BST
Nothing Compares to Urdu is a top song but she's a dumb beitch, imo Angry

What do her country folk think?
Report Hank Hill October 26, 2018 7:53 PM BST
I just looked up her age dan - only 51 Shocked
Report Reynard October 26, 2018 8:09 PM BST
Did Cat Stevens conversion cause a similar stir ? My memory is not what it was Confused
Report Just Checking October 26, 2018 8:14 PM BST
I was listening to cat stevens just the other day. In amongst listening to Dio era Black Sabbath and Coverdale Era Deep Purple of course

Totally forgot he did "First cut is the deepest" (first I guess)..
Report trilby22 October 26, 2018 8:16 PM BST
Who the fk is Shuhada anyway?
Report trilby22 October 26, 2018 8:17 PM BST
In reply to Rey
Report trilby22 October 26, 2018 8:19 PM BST

Oct 26, 2018 -- 8:14PM, Just Checking wrote:


I was listening to cat stevens just the other day. In amongst listening to Dio era Black Sabbath and Coverdale Era Deep Purple of course Totally forgot he did "First cut is the deepest" (first I guess)..


I read that.

Dio and Ozzy are = imo.

Gillan IS Purple and I like Whitesnake too. Whoops

Report Hank Hill October 26, 2018 8:38 PM BST
She can sing as Shuhada Wadi
Report Platini October 26, 2018 8:47 PM BST
Shuda Woulda Coulda just phoned Samaritans.
Report moisok October 26, 2018 8:51 PM BST
face up to it people

it will grow and grow  - it is very trendy too

womxn from the uk flooded calais at one time
Report Foinavon October 26, 2018 9:40 PM BST
The hardest things for cat to give up were scratchings.
Report Nilsson Schmilsson October 27, 2018 12:21 AM BST

Oct 26, 2018 -- 8:09PM, Reynard wrote:


Did Cat Stevens conversion cause a similar stir ? My memory is not what it was


Nothing compares to Yu  suf Islan

Report Nilsson Schmilsson October 27, 2018 12:28 AM BST
ffs Laugh
Report Hank Hill October 27, 2018 12:42 AM BST
Khat Stevens
Report casemoney October 27, 2018 12:47 AM BST
With a Homosexual of Indian descent running the Show over the water , Times have certainly Changed Shocked

Perhaps we may have many more Irish people converting to Islam ....
Report casemoney October 27, 2018 12:48 AM BST
"Urdu is what northern women get before a night out"

LaughLaughLaugh
Report casemoney October 27, 2018 12:54 AM BST
I would  be Sceptical Ms O's intentions  and New Name  ,Could well be trying save a failing  Career



I can see her Starting a New Band  "Shuhada-Waddy" ....
Report Platini October 27, 2018 9:36 AM BST
didn't' they have a big hit with "Who put the bomb"'  ?    Laugh
Report lfc1971 October 27, 2018 9:40 AM BST
As long as we ban her from coming to the U.K. I don’t mind
Report Platini October 27, 2018 9:45 AM BST
The thread title should be renamed to

Sinead O'Connor switches her support from one terrorist organisation to another.   


I wonder if she's the first trans-terrorist sympathiser Laugh
Report lfc1971 October 27, 2018 9:49 AM BST
Grin very true, anything anti British and these ****** latch onto it
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 27, 2018 3:09 PM BST
If Sinead is racist, sexist and homophobic she's found the perfect religious cult
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 27, 2018 3:16 PM BST
I'm not sure whether Sinead know's about Islamic views on music?  Perhaps she is giving up her career?  Doubt western popular music is allowed in even the most relaxed form of Islam.   What a completely ignorant tool she is.

"Permissibility of music

The question of permissibility of music in Islamic jurisprudence is historically disputed.[2] Imam al-Ghazzali, one of the most famous Muslim scholars, writing almost a thousand years ago, reported several hadith and came to the conclusion that music is permitted, saying: “All these Ahadith are reported by al-Bukhari and singing and playing are not haram.”[3] Despite this, some Salafist groups interpret the chapters of Luqman and Al-Isra in the Quran as evidence that music is haram,[4] although this is disputed by others who disagree.[5]

Those who do not allow music believe that Muhammad censured the use of musical instruments when he said: "There will be among my Ummah people who will regard as permissible adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments".[6] Islamic scholars of the past who agreed upon this include Abu Hanifa, Al-Shafi'i, Malik, Ahmad bin Hanbal, Al-Tabari, Al-Hasan Al-Basri, Al-Bukhari, Al-Tirmidhi, Al-Nawawi, Al-Bayhaqi, Al-Tahawi, and Al-Qurtubi.[citation needed] However, those who argue that music is halal (permitted) state that this hadith relates to usage—at the time the polytheists used music and musical instruments as part of their worship- and does not apply to all music.[3] They also point out that in the Quran, it is stated that Hazrat Dawud was given the Psalms.[7] (an-Nisa, 4/163; al-Isra, 17/55). In other Islamic resources, it is stated that the Psalms given to Hazrat Dawud were sent down in the month of Ramadan, that it contained sermons and words of wisdom and that Hazrat Dawud usually recited it accompanied by a melody and a musical instrument;[8] therefore music is permitted. Supporters of this view also point out that in classical Islamic jurisprudence and Sharia, the Quran is the higher authority on correct Islamic practice; the hadith, while important, are secondary to the Quran.[9]

Those who saw the permissibility of music include some of the most famous Muslim scholars, jurists, philosophers and Sufi poets of the Muslim world, including Abu Bakr ibn al-Arabi, Ibn al-Qaisarani, Ibn Sina, Abu Hamid al-Ghazali, Rumi, Ibn Rushd, and Ibn Hazm. Al-Ghazali also reports a narration from al-Khidr, where he expressed a favorable opinion of music, provided it be within the usage limitation of virtuous areas.[citation needed][10][11] Al-Ghazali has been referred to by some historians as the single most influential Muslim after the Islamic prophet Muhammad.[12]

Certain schools of Sunnis as well as some Shiites hold that music is forbidden with the sole exception being that women can play the Daf, a traditional one sided drum, at celebrations and festivals.[13] However some Islamic groups and denominations deem music permissible including many Sufi orders who use music as part of their worship.[14]

According to some authorities Islam does allow singing without musical accompaniment within prescribed circumstances—namely that the performer be of the same gender as the audience,[15] although this contradicts a well-known hadith in which two girls sang a song to the Prophet Muhammad and he instructed Abu Bakr to let them, stating, "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id.".[16] Others hold that music is permitted in Islam provided that the lyrics are not obscene or vulgar.[15]

Based upon the Shia ahadith, Grand Ayatollah Sadiq Hussaini Shirazi (an opponent of the current theocratic regime in Iran) ruled that all music and instrument playing is haram, no matter the purpose.[17] However, this is not the official position of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the current supreme leader of Iran, has stated his admiration of western music,[18] and music is permitted in Iran as long as it is either Iranian folk music, Iranian Classical music, or Iranian pop music.[19]
"
Report moisok October 27, 2018 3:27 PM BST
there you are - that puts all you knuckle draggers in your plaice

she can play the drums

so no problem
Report Just Checking October 27, 2018 4:11 PM BST
She plays the drums? Well that explains it.

Must have seen a Holy Cymbal.
Report Just Checking October 27, 2018 4:16 PM BST
I just looked on her wiki page as I didn't think she'd released anything in about 2 decades. In amongst the descriptions of her various melt downs it says:
"In February 2014, it was revealed that O'Connor had been recording a new album of original material, titled The Vishnu Room,.."

"O'Connor said that she would release a new album under her new name of Magda Davitt in 2019, titled No Mud No Lotus.."

Vishnu? Lotus? Sounds like she was flirting with Indian religions first. And she'd already changed her name to Magda Davitt, and now she's changing it AGAIN?!

Well 2 can play that game.

Yours,
Archibald Meatpants
Report hfink October 27, 2018 4:49 PM BST
She probably watched this video and thought it looked like fun religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48laJC8wYl4
Report cardifffc October 28, 2018 6:54 PM GMT
crisp............only 8% of parkistanis speak Urdu and the reason is this 8% are refuges from india hence them speaking Urdu.......
Report cardifffc October 28, 2018 6:55 PM GMT
muslim refuges
Report moisok October 28, 2018 6:59 PM GMT
she has been a catholic priest??   flirted with Hindu religion now with Islam

be fair - she needs help - I feel very sorry for her.  Clearly she is reaching out - it is unnecessary to mock her.

Many of us have struggled with where we are in life.  Very sad.
Report woundedknee October 28, 2018 7:29 PM GMT
lets hope shes not a promising footballer
Report lux October 28, 2018 9:50 PM GMT
Sinéad O’Connor Converts To Hinduism After Realising Muslims Don’t Drink

“I guess Islam just wasn’t the right fit for Sinéad. We’d like to wish her all the best in her new religion. No hard feelings at all. I mean if she wants to burn in the flames of hell for all eternity and go back to being a Satan loving infidel **** then that’s her business. But like I said, no hard feelings.”


http://irelandoncraic.com/sineadthehindu/?fbclid=IwAR0-GXZGl1piseeC0T-e57224Vs9WezxC8TMH9zI-Gub59bY-Kuipwu_Hbk
Report lux October 28, 2018 9:50 PM GMT
Sinéad O’Connor Converts To Hinduism After Realising Muslims Don’t Drink

“I guess Islam just wasn’t the right fit for Sinéad. We’d like to wish her all the best in her new religion. No hard feelings at all. I mean if she wants to burn in the flames of hell for all eternity and go back to being a Satan loving infidel **** then that’s her business. But like I said, no hard feelings.”


http://irelandoncraic.com/sineadthehindu/?fbclid=IwAR0-GXZGl1piseeC0T-e57224Vs9WezxC8TMH9zI-Gub59bY-Kuipwu_Hbk
Report moisok October 28, 2018 9:56 PM GMT
you simply are not taking this seriously

some of us have problems with life and we need time to take stock

leave the girl alone

she has problems

let her rest and sort them out
Report Just Checking October 28, 2018 10:12 PM GMT
And as nailed on as it possibly could be, Jon Sopel turning this into an attack on Trump on the 10pm news.
Report moisok October 28, 2018 10:20 PM GMT
dare anyone hold up their hand in class and say 'excuse me but is that right' ?

do you think we are nearly there now

like it is no longer correct to ask questions
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