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Apparently diet induced, any fellow suffers ? Tips on how to get rid, don't really want to take yet another pill to stay alive. All a bit upsetting, bought myself a large bag of Malteasers last night to console myself 
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Heard in the supermarket this week - ''everybody becomes diabetic when they get older.''
People actually believe that. Or it's in their genes as mentioned here.
So if your dad ate steak egg and chips three times a day and died of a heart attack, then you'll probably die of a heart attack despite what you eat.
Which is like saying, if your dad committed suicide then you're likely to kill yourself as well.
People actually believe that. Or it's in their genes as mentioned here.
So if your dad ate steak egg and chips three times a day and died of a heart attack, then you'll probably die of a heart attack despite what you eat.
Which is like saying, if your dad committed suicide then you're likely to kill yourself as well.
Diagnosed with type 2 yesterday bit of a sickener,told it was hereditary,not really to do with my diet,back tomorrow for further tests, gonna read this thread now.
Bad luck G Hall.
Cases of diagnosed Diabetes are increasing rapidly.
Here's an article from 2008 showing an increase of 90% for America in ten years.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769839/
It's startling figures like these that made me gather as much information about the disease that I could, in order that I could make adjustments to my diet and avoid developing the killer myself.
S2 diabetes hereditary? I don't think so.
Cases of diagnosed Diabetes are increasing rapidly.
Here's an article from 2008 showing an increase of 90% for America in ten years.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769839/
It's startling figures like these that made me gather as much information about the disease that I could, in order that I could make adjustments to my diet and avoid developing the killer myself.
S2 diabetes hereditary? I don't think so.
Just been to my doctors for an hour talk on Diabetes. Looks like my feeble attempt to loose weight with Slimming World has probably done more harm than good 
obviously I can't blame them entirely as I readily admit I eat a lot of sh1t, however I never knew a small jacket potato which I deemed to be fairly healthy on its own turns into 16 cubes of sugar 
I had four the other night for dinner ! Slimming world will tell you they are a free food and you don't have to measure them 
obviously I can't blame them entirely as I readily admit I eat a lot of sh1t, however I never knew a small jacket potato which I deemed to be fairly healthy on its own turns into 16 cubes of sugar I had four the other night for dinner ! Slimming world will tell you they are a free food and you don't have to measure them
That's what he told me Dr C I wouldn't have weight issues at all,just extremely thirsty and tired and blurry vision at times, wouldn't get as much sleep as I need though.
Nov 7, 2018 -- 1:28PM, ufcdan wrote:
Just been to my doctors for an hour talk on Diabetes. Looks like my feeble attempt to loose weight with Slimming World has probably done more harm than good obviously I can't blame them entirely as I readily admit I eat a lot of sh1t, however I never knew a small jacket potato which I deemed to be fairly healthy on its own turns into 16 cubes of sugar I had four the other night for dinner ! Slimming world will tell you they are a free food and you don't have to measure them
dan trust me mate what Dr C and I have put up on here is the way to go Slimming World type way is designed to have people going round in circles that is how they make their money with repeat subscriptions to an unsustainable way of life.
My sister in law just goes round the carousel yo yoing all year round despite going to her classes every week,all she's doing is dumping her water and sugar stores then filling them up again that's why there's big losses at the start for everyone.
People really need to know about nutrition if they're serious about losing weight and staying slim once the weight is off.
Otherwise hey simply put it all back on again.
They need to know how the body deals with the three main parts of food, which are carbs, fat and protein.
This is also essential if they're diabetic and are going to try and reverse it.
Otherwise hey simply put it all back on again.
They need to know how the body deals with the three main parts of food, which are carbs, fat and protein.
This is also essential if they're diabetic and are going to try and reverse it.
dan trust me mate what Dr C and I have put up on here is the way to go Slimming World type way is designed to have people going round in circles that is how they make their money with repeat subscriptions to an unsustainable way of life.
Spot on Denzil
Spot on Denzil
S2 diabetes hereditary? I don't think so.
My Mrs would beg to differ. She is the eldest of 6 siblings, all bar the youngest have type 2. Her mother had it and her mother's two sister also. Her maternal grandmother also had it. Needless to say the youngest sibling, aged 52, is awaiting his fate but trying to eat healthily.
The 3 female siblings are overweight but the 2 males are a normal weight.
My Mrs would beg to differ. She is the eldest of 6 siblings, all bar the youngest have type 2. Her mother had it and her mother's two sister also. Her maternal grandmother also had it. Needless to say the youngest sibling, aged 52, is awaiting his fate but trying to eat healthily.
The 3 female siblings are overweight but the 2 males are a normal weight.
Nov 7, 2018 -- 12:42PM, Dr Crippen wrote:
Bad luck G Hall.Cases of diagnosed Diabetes are increasing rapidly.Here's an article from 2008 showing an increase of 90% for America in ten years.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769839/It's startling figures like these that made me gather as much information about the disease that I could, in order that I could make adjustments to my diet and avoid developing the killer myself.S2 diabetes hereditary? I don't think so.
Crippen - you f*cking idiot.
It is a PROVEN fact, none of your stupid idiotic conspiracy BS you adhere to like the total prik you are, that Diabetes is VERY MUCH hereditary.
You are without question one of the thickest people I've ever had the displeasure of corresponding/dealing with.
See if you'll get this removed now.
It'd be no surprise.
It'd be no surprise.
I won't complain about that STUDYFORM.
It's a good reminder to the forum of what a hysterical state you tend to get yourself in.
It's a good reminder to the forum of what a hysterical state you tend to get yourself in.
Swearing and hurling insults during a serious discussion without any provocation speaks for itself.
I have tried the ridiculous, pointless method of discussing this subject, all over the first few days of this thread.
You are presenting unsubstantiated, potentially dangerous tripe, based on nothing more than a conspiracy about medicines.
You are quite wrong (as always) in loads of places.
Among the states I'm in is to be a diabetic, and trust me, you are no saviour of diabetics. There is always provocation where you're concerned simply because you don't know very much about anything.
You have no magic cure, and people with the condition don't need YOU telling them it's always avoidable.
It isn't.
Parading reams of quackery all over the forum just shows what a gullible fool you are. And insults people who know far more about diabetes than you do.
You are presenting unsubstantiated, potentially dangerous tripe, based on nothing more than a conspiracy about medicines.
You are quite wrong (as always) in loads of places.
Among the states I'm in is to be a diabetic, and trust me, you are no saviour of diabetics. There is always provocation where you're concerned simply because you don't know very much about anything.
You have no magic cure, and people with the condition don't need YOU telling them it's always avoidable.
It isn't.
Parading reams of quackery all over the forum just shows what a gullible fool you are. And insults people who know far more about diabetes than you do.
If S2 diabetes is hereditary, why are the numbers of sufferers growing rapidly, and why are the ages of the sufferers also coming down?
If it were purely down to hereditary factors wouldn't the numbers remain constant?
Cases of type 2 diabetes among young people rise 41% in three years
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/aug/18/cases-of-type-2-diabetes-among-young-people-rise-41-in-three-years
If it were purely down to hereditary factors wouldn't the numbers remain constant?
Cases of type 2 diabetes among young people rise 41% in three years
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/aug/18/cases-of-type-2-diabetes-among-young-people-rise-41-in-three-years
Think some may underestimate the learned way of life that the automatically inherit which accounts for many cases imo.
I'm not arguing the point.
YOU ARE WRONG.
It's as simple as that.
YOU ARE WRONG.
It's as simple as that.
I didn't say other people can't get it. What I said - CLEARLY
is that diabetes is hereditary and IT IS.
is that diabetes is hereditary and IT IS.
Again, STUDYFORMS post is full of unsubstantiated claims and his own opinions, which are clouded by his extremes of emotion.
There's nothing to be learned from his posts at all.
I'd dismiss everything he writes on that basis.
There's nothing to be learned from his posts at all.
I'd dismiss everything he writes on that basis.
If one can't discuss things without getting hot under the collar, then how can that person use reason to draw their conclusions?
Dr C
My wife's GP who is a Diabetes Specialist told her that in her case it was hereditary, and this was before the other 4 siblings were diagnosed. Clearly it's not hereditary in other cases.
My wife's GP who is a Diabetes Specialist told her that in her case it was hereditary, and this was before the other 4 siblings were diagnosed. Clearly it's not hereditary in other cases.
The difference between Type 1 diabetes and Type 2 diabetes should always be recognised.
crystal, as Denzil said earlier, the same lifestyles and diets will have the same effects on the body.
One of the links I gave early clearly shows that some people are more susceptible to S2 than other people are.
It's to do with their ability to handle dietary fat.
If that's hereditary then I stand corrected, but the hereditary angle doesn't account for the many new cases of diabetes occurring in S2 free families.
One of the links I gave early clearly shows that some people are more susceptible to S2 than other people are.
It's to do with their ability to handle dietary fat.
If that's hereditary then I stand corrected, but the hereditary angle doesn't account for the many new cases of diabetes occurring in S2 free families.
This is the link I mentioned there^.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd8QFD5Ht18
It's heavy going.
Now you really need to get to grips with what he's telling us here.
I'm not endorsing his methods of dealing with it by the way.
But his description of what causes insulin resistance should be taken on board if you really want to know what S2 diabetes is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd8QFD5Ht18
It's heavy going.
Now you really need to get to grips with what he's telling us here.
I'm not endorsing his methods of dealing with it by the way.
But his description of what causes insulin resistance should be taken on board if you really want to know what S2 diabetes is.
Agree that's the one I bookmarked last time plenty of stop starting the video here but worth it.
dan trust me mate what Dr C and I have put up on here is the way to go Slimming World type way is designed to have people going round in circles that is how they make their money with repeat subscriptions to an unsustainable way of life.
Gave what you said Denzil some thought, should of spotted the clues. Most of the women in my area bar two have lost the weight and are putting it back on you'd think Slimming World would have some standards/weight restrictions for their consultants 
but then I guess they could get into to trouble with employment rules
Gave what you said Denzil some thought, should of spotted the clues. Most of the women in my area bar two have lost the weight and are putting it back on
you'd think Slimming World would have some standards/weight restrictions for their consultants but then I guess they could get into to trouble with employment rules
dan just do this from now (without cheating mind) and see what happens over the next fortnight.
Drop all dairy,meat,fatty fish and added fats like oils (obviously excluding what's already in the foods) reign in sweets and sugary drinks,drink a bit more water or diluty if you don't like water.
I'd be amazed if you didn't drop a stone in that time it's far easier than it sounds and you don't have to starve just eat til you've had enough,if at any time your pins will let you go for a wander do it but it's not essential,thank me in a fortnight.
Drop all dairy,meat,fatty fish and added fats like oils (obviously excluding what's already in the foods) reign in sweets and sugary drinks,drink a bit more water or diluty if you don't like water.
I'd be amazed if you didn't drop a stone in that time it's far easier than it sounds and you don't have to starve just eat til you've had enough,if at any time your pins will let you go for a wander do it but it's not essential,thank me in a fortnight.
At the very least, dan, before doing this. Ask your diabetes specialist and/or dietician.
I'd be interested in their response to this regimen.
I'd be interested in their response to this regimen.
dan if you are interested in getting some info that will help you as it did me just send a pm and I'll reply as openly and straightforward as possible.
STUDY why don't you pm him a good meds schedule clearly your way of life works fine.
At the very least, dan, before doing this. Ask your diabetes specialist and/or dietician.
I'd be interested in their response to this regimen.
What on earth for?
I'd be interested in their response to this regimen.
What on earth for?
Thanks for all the advice and offers of help if somewhat confusing First thing I've done is tell Slimming World they won't be seeing me again. As for diet I will increase my vegetable intake although I'm quite good. A lot of my meals are vegetable based on the meat front I eat mainly chicken and 5% fat mince. As for my carbs I shall moderate them and have already switched to wholemeal rice and pasta. Also I apparently need to not eat to much fruit in one sitting. Again SW free food so would have a banana, satsuma and an apple with a bowl of porridge. My bloods are 6.7 I get to see the diabetes nurse in three months time so hopefully I can get my blood sugars down by then. My knees are shot but I do try and walk each day. Given my weight the app I'm using say I should do 6,000 steps a day which appears to be quite easily achievable. Hopefully small changes will give me some positive results. Again thanks.
First thing I've done is tell Slimming World they won't be seeing me again. As for diet I will increase my vegetable intake although I'm quite good. A lot of my meals are vegetable based on the meat front I eat mainly chicken and 5% fat mince. As for my carbs I shall moderate them and have already switched to wholemeal rice and pasta. Also I apparently need to not eat to much fruit in one sitting. Again SW free food so would have a banana, satsuma and an apple with a bowl of porridge. My bloods are 6.7 I get to see the diabetes nurse in three months time so hopefully I can get my blood sugars down by then. My knees are shot but I do try and walk each day. Given my weight the app I'm using say I should do 6,000 steps a day which appears to be quite easily achievable. Hopefully small changes will give me some positive results. Again thanks.
No bother dan seems like you wouldn't need to make too much of an adjustment to eat similar to me when I was dropping early weight.
The advice I would give is to drop the Chicken and Mince altogether and up the starches and you'll see a big difference which is contrary to almost all advice you'll read.
The advice I would give is to drop the Chicken and Mince altogether and up the starches and you'll see a big difference which is contrary to almost all advice you'll read.
I could quite easily be vegetarian but that usually involves a lot of carbs
The carbs aren't an issue on very low fat in fact it's extremely difficult for your body to store them as fat,the only type of carbs which are easyish to store are those from fruit - fructose.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/2013/12/31/walter-kempner-md-founder-of-the-rice-diet/
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2006nl/sept/sugar.htm
These are a couple of good links about carbs which helped me understand as I had the same perception as yourself.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2006nl/sept/sugar.htm
These are a couple of good links about carbs which helped me understand as I had the same perception as yourself.
For this dietary remedy to be effective, the fat has to be cleared out of the glucose receptors.
All meat, fish and dairy is fat.
Vegetable oil is liquid fat, nuts are full of fat. Avocado the health food is fat.
You have to stop eating fat, or your efforts will have limited results.
All meat, fish and dairy is fat.
Vegetable oil is liquid fat, nuts are full of fat. Avocado the health food is fat.
You have to stop eating fat, or your efforts will have limited results.
Without doubt the dropping of the meat and dairy were the key for me which I found out through practical experience.
The use of animal proteins in trying to lose weight definitely comes from the old bodybuilding ways of trying to preserve muscle whilst using only fat for energy,this is very difficult for someone with insulin issues as shown on the Dr Ted Naiman video their insulin levels are through the roof all day whatever.
Some other videos I watched said fasting insulin levels can be around 5-7 times of that of a healthy person this definitely was one of my own issues which meant I couldn't switch between fuel sources,i.e insulin was always too high so burning glucose for fuel not fat when a healthy person may be able to switch between within 12 hours.
Alot of people forget/don't know that proteins produce insulin spikes similar to sugars which come with a large storing hormonal response which is the storing one (insulin) and not the healing fat loss one (human growth hormone) which can only be produced when living glycogen is low,insulin is very low and glucose receptors aren't clogged (which is the only way insulin levels can drop in the first place).
The use of animal proteins in trying to lose weight definitely comes from the old bodybuilding ways of trying to preserve muscle whilst using only fat for energy,this is very difficult for someone with insulin issues as shown on the Dr Ted Naiman video their insulin levels are through the roof all day whatever.
Some other videos I watched said fasting insulin levels can be around 5-7 times of that of a healthy person this definitely was one of my own issues which meant I couldn't switch between fuel sources,i.e insulin was always too high so burning glucose for fuel not fat when a healthy person may be able to switch between within 12 hours.
Alot of people forget/don't know that proteins produce insulin spikes similar to sugars which come with a large storing hormonal response which is the storing one (insulin) and not the healing fat loss one (human growth hormone) which can only be produced when living glycogen is low,insulin is very low and glucose receptors aren't clogged (which is the only way insulin levels can drop in the first place).
The 11.19 Dr C post and the above and is what YouTube trainers and many poor personal trainers don't understand and the idea has been nicked by the weight loss industry as they see some of the amazing results that 'fitness' athletes have had,forgetting/not knowing that many are on drugs/stimulants and don't have the hormonal issues in the first place which is the REAL ISSUE for the pre diabetic and type 2 sufferers.
NHS now have to admit they can reverse type 2 the way to achieve and maintain this are on this thread and they aren't from mainstream sources and are based on science from the 1930s.
Hmm.
Posted 3 times. All my posts IN RESPONSE to crippen are being deleted.
Why?
Anyway - every time it goes, I'll repost it. Otherwise Crippen will pretend there is no response and continue his crusade.
Posted 3 times. All my posts IN RESPONSE to crippen are being deleted.
Why?
Anyway - every time it goes, I'll repost it. Otherwise Crippen will pretend there is no response and continue his crusade.
Try switching to standard view thought have thought there were posts missing in the past but were still there on standard.
Completely censored.
NOTE TO MODERATOR. PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE THIS POST UNLESS YOU (TSEG) CAN TELL ME WHAT RULES HAVE BEEN INFRINGE - IT IS A RIGHT TO REPLY
Throughout this thread, my posts have NEVER said you cannot reverse PRE-DIABETICS, possibly SOME diabetics, and todays report and news, clearly states RECENTLY DIAGNOSED diabetes COULD be reversed in SOME PEOPLE.
You are SO tied up with your own 'stuff' and conspiracy acquired 'nonsense' that you can't be bothered to read what anyone opposing nearly everything you write, when they do, you get their posts removed.
So just to reiterate, ALL I've ever said on here, which I'm still saying is TAKE PROPER MEDICAL ADVICE and don't listen to you or people who are hooked on an idea that isn't ratified by anyone who didn't come up with it. That full-blown diabetes isn't reversible, and it isn't.
All the stuff that you and Denzil have pontificated about might well be helpful to SOME people, but I will still maintain, you don't know who and they need to see experts. And that most of them will be PRE-diabetic and not fully established.
Today's news is a trial of a slimfast type diet to lose weight and the weight loss will help. Once again it is primarily for pre and new T2 diabetics.
Nothing I've said has been wrong. You are no more right than before. All the evangelical twaddle you've put on here is still just that.
Now go ahead, report the post (again). I'll just repost it.
NOTE TO MODERATOR. PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE THIS POST UNLESS YOU (TSEG) CAN TELL ME WHAT RULES HAVE BEEN INFRINGE - IT IS A RIGHT TO REPLY
Throughout this thread, my posts have NEVER said you cannot reverse PRE-DIABETICS, possibly SOME diabetics, and todays report and news, clearly states RECENTLY DIAGNOSED diabetes COULD be reversed in SOME PEOPLE.
You are SO tied up with your own 'stuff' and conspiracy acquired 'nonsense' that you can't be bothered to read what anyone opposing nearly everything you write, when they do, you get their posts removed.
So just to reiterate, ALL I've ever said on here, which I'm still saying is TAKE PROPER MEDICAL ADVICE and don't listen to you or people who are hooked on an idea that isn't ratified by anyone who didn't come up with it. That full-blown diabetes isn't reversible, and it isn't.
All the stuff that you and Denzil have pontificated about might well be helpful to SOME people, but I will still maintain, you don't know who and they need to see experts. And that most of them will be PRE-diabetic and not fully established.
Today's news is a trial of a slimfast type diet to lose weight and the weight loss will help. Once again it is primarily for pre and new T2 diabetics.
Nothing I've said has been wrong. You are no more right than before. All the evangelical twaddle you've put on here is still just that.
Now go ahead, report the post (again). I'll just repost it.
Even the NHS have been embarrassed into admitting they've been misleading people all along.
80 years too late.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46363869
Anyone who takes the trouble to investigate their illness themselves, always questions the advice handed out by this shabby organisation.
80 years too late.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46363869
Anyone who takes the trouble to investigate their illness themselves, always questions the advice handed out by this shabby organisation.
Rubbish.
Dr Crippen • November 30, 2018 5:46 PM GMT
Even the NHS have been embarrassed into admitting they've been misleading people all along.
No they haven't. Show where they have.
You just come up with stupid statements like this.
You make things up.
You say people have written things they never wrote.
Dr Crippen • November 30, 2018 5:46 PM GMT
Even the NHS have been embarrassed into admitting they've been misleading people all along.
No they haven't. Show where they have.
You just come up with stupid statements like this.
You make things up.
You say people have written things they never wrote.
Oh, and, precious flower, you report posts and get them removed.
My posts in response to crippen (on 2 threads) disappearing AGAIN.
Make you feel good about yourself does it?
Clown.
Make you feel good about yourself does it?
Clown.
It's remarkable how people put their GPs on a pedestal, when in many cases after seeing one patients come away with a prescription that they might as well throw in the bin.
Another day another bump to the top.
Maybe you think people will be impressed if you do this!
Maybe you think people will be impressed if you do this!
A doctor who I never met phoned me to say my current medication was a dangerous combination. Candersertin (excuse spelling) and Naproxen. Wouldn't mind but I'd been on it for at least ten years.
Used to take Naproxen when I had back issues stopped when I was passing blood same thing happened next time I took them,my mother used to take something like Lansoprozole to protect her stomach etc. when taking hers.
Yes blood pressure. I take Lapnsoprozole as well. Doctors tried to get me off Naproxen but I'm crippled within two or three weeks of not taking it. Yep not good for the kidneys but then neither is being confined to a chair not living life.
Nowt worse than that have had little spells of it brings you right down.
Yeah told my doctor I want you to help me to live.......not keep me alive. Big difference !
The final insult for the patient after taking prescription drugs, is when the doctor prescribes a drug to try to counteract the deleterious effects of those drugs that he's already prescribed for his patient.
I kid you not, this practice is commonplace.
I kid you not, this practice is commonplace.
Many years ago my step fathers son died, he was diagnosed with cancer. As he was found at home and a day had gone by he had to have a post mortem. They found no trace of cancer, it was the cncer medication that caused his heart to fail
Cases like that are a national scandal ufcdan but the NHS doesn't get the bad publicity like a private practice would.
Much is made of homeopathy being ineffective, yet many NHS drugs are too and dangerous into the bargain.
I've never of anyone being harmed from homeopathy or acupuncture.
Not that I'm endorsing either.
Much is made of homeopathy being ineffective, yet many NHS drugs are too and dangerous into the bargain.
I've never of anyone being harmed from homeopathy or acupuncture.
Not that I'm endorsing either.
6.4 for me today....just on upper limit...nurse reasonably satisfied
Will get higher over Christmas
but will get it down again for next test next summer..hopefully
Will get higher over Christmas
but will get it down again for next test next summer..hopefully
Might see if can volunteer for the NHS 800 calorie soup and shake diet.
Could do but could be hard to sustain long term,can be done easier dropping dairy,meat,fish,eggs and fats.
If you like chilli just cook a huge pot of bean based chilli using cans of kidney beans,pinto beans,mixed beans or chickpeas add onions,mushrooms,canned tomatoes,peppers if you like but the important part is the beans,I've just done one that'll last 2 days then just eat til you're full having a bit rice,jacket potatoes or whatever drink plenty water and you'll lose weight sustainably.
Or ditch the starches live on bean chilli and veg and it'll happen quicker just a suggestion but you won't go hungry and you won't lower your metabolic rate long term.
If you like chilli just cook a huge pot of bean based chilli using cans of kidney beans,pinto beans,mixed beans or chickpeas add onions,mushrooms,canned tomatoes,peppers if you like but the important part is the beans,I've just done one that'll last 2 days then just eat til you're full having a bit rice,jacket potatoes or whatever drink plenty water and you'll lose weight sustainably.
Or ditch the starches live on bean chilli and veg and it'll happen quicker just a suggestion but you won't go hungry and you won't lower your metabolic rate long term.
I also have a very nice chocolate pea protein that you can drink at anytime which will also help stick it out and it doesn't spike insulin like other proteins so it'll be beneficial.
Doctors must be astonished at diabetic patients who refuse to lose weight. And others who simply don't care about their condition.
I know a grossly overweight diabetic such as that who has to shoot insulin.
He was telling me about this slap up meal with all the trimmings he enjoyed the other day.
An old saying ''there's nowt so **** as folk.''
I know a grossly overweight diabetic such as that who has to shoot insulin.
He was telling me about this slap up meal with all the trimmings he enjoyed the other day.
An old saying ''there's nowt so **** as folk.''
My blood sugar reading this morning was 4.7 my lowest yet.When I went to the GP first time it was 24, but have completely changed diet,I don't know if it means I am still diabetic but all my readings are in the 5.0 - 5.7 range in the last week.
Thanks for all the help guys,without your input I would be on 3+ metformin daily.
Thanks for all the help guys,without your input I would be on 3+ metformin daily.
That's fantastic G Hall.
Sounds like you're home and dry.
Sounds like you're home and dry.
I hope so taking one metformin daily I think it is time to come off it now.
Breakfast
Porridge made with almond milk blueberries on top.
Two poached eggs,grilled tomato,one rasher,two black pudding.
Breakfast
Porridge made with almond milk blueberries on top.
Two poached eggs,grilled tomato,one rasher,two black pudding.
Thanks denzil you were very very helpful along with Dr c I was in a bad place
I couldn't eat a breakfast like that thats my three meals for the day almost must be a 1000 calories eggs,bacon and black pudding far to fatty for me...
Bowl of porridge would be enough for me,eggs,bacon and black pudding they are fatty however you cook them full of cholesterol although i do eat quite a few eggs...
Bowl of porridge would be enough for me,eggs,bacon and black pudding they are fatty however you cook them full of cholesterol although i do eat quite a few eggs...
He's not out of the woods yet if he's still taking Metformin.
Cheers Uble that is my lowest reading two hours after it was 5.0 so will see what happens it will take time to get on top of it back to the doc after Christmas so will see then how it's going,but I am determined to beat it,as it can lead to so many other complications.
As an aside the amount of people in their late 50's early 60's in bad shape is quite alarming,I have been taking special notice since I was diagnosed.
As an aside the amount of people in their late 50's early 60's in bad shape is quite alarming,I have been taking special notice since I was diagnosed.
Down to one a day think I can cut it out as well what you reckon doc
As an aside the amount of people in their late 50's early 60's in bad shape is quite alarming,I have been taking special notice since I was diagnosed.
How true illness is rife directly caused by our diets and the advice forced upon the unsuspecting public,the more you get into researching and practically trying things out the more you realise what's going on with confusion and trust (in GP's) being their main weapons.
How true illness is rife directly caused by our diets and the advice forced upon the unsuspecting public,the more you get into researching and practically trying things out the more you realise what's going on with confusion and trust (in GP's) being their main weapons.
Yes G Hall, I take it that reading is after fasting?
You see I have a friend who shoots insulin and he gets readings as low as 4 in the mornings before he's eaten, only to be into double figures for most of the day.
The low reading was simply the insulin taking effect.
You should cut back further on fat anyway.
You see I have a friend who shoots insulin and he gets readings as low as 4 in the mornings before he's eaten, only to be into double figures for most of the day.
The low reading was simply the insulin taking effect.
You should cut back further on fat anyway.
Could do but could be hard to sustain long term,can be done easier dropping dairy,meat,fish,eggs and fats.
If you like chilli just cook a huge pot of bean based chilli using cans of kidney beans,pinto beans,mixed beans or chickpeas add onions,mushrooms,canned tomatoes,peppers if you like but the important part is the beans,I've just done one that'll last 2 days then just eat til you're full having a bit rice,jacket potatoes or whatever drink plenty water and you'll lose weight sustainably.
Or ditch the starches live on bean chilli and veg and it'll happen quicker just a suggestion but you won't go hungry and you won't lower your metabolic rate long term.
Cheers denzil, I often makeover chilli also a pretty mean butternut squash and red lentil curry and a sweet potato and spinach curry mind you that has a fair amount of carbs
If you like chilli just cook a huge pot of bean based chilli using cans of kidney beans,pinto beans,mixed beans or chickpeas add onions,mushrooms,canned tomatoes,peppers if you like but the important part is the beans,I've just done one that'll last 2 days then just eat til you're full having a bit rice,jacket potatoes or whatever drink plenty water and you'll lose weight sustainably.
Or ditch the starches live on bean chilli and veg and it'll happen quicker just a suggestion but you won't go hungry and you won't lower your metabolic rate long term.
Cheers denzil, I often makeover chilli also a pretty mean butternut squash and red lentil curry and a sweet potato and spinach curry mind you that has a fair amount of carbs
I also make a mushy pea curry which is very quick and easy 
Cheers denzil, I often makeover chilli also a pretty mean butternut squash and red lentil curry and a sweet potato and spinach curry mind you that has a fair amount of carbs
No need to worry about those sort of carbs dan they don't produce the hormonal reaction that promotes growth and very difficult to overeat especially if you eat in a time restricted window.
Also Beans (especially),pulses,legumes,peas etc. have an effect on Glucose called 'The second meal effect' which slows down subsequent glucose spikes as time goes on as your gut bacteria improves through regular feeding of bean like products it is more effective.
Those curries look like good ideas to me the link below explains better than I can.
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/beans-and-the-second-meal-effect/
No need to worry about those sort of carbs dan they don't produce the hormonal reaction that promotes growth and very difficult to overeat especially if you eat in a time restricted window.
Also Beans (especially),pulses,legumes,peas etc. have an effect on Glucose called 'The second meal effect' which slows down subsequent glucose spikes as time goes on as your gut bacteria improves through regular feeding of bean like products it is more effective.
Those curries look like good ideas to me the link below explains better than I can.
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/beans-and-the-second-meal-effect/
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