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Dose'nt exist.
The so-called Croydon cat killer does not exist, the Metropolitan Police has confirmed.
The force launched an investigation in 2015 into reports of mutilated cats, often with heads and tails removed, in Croydon and the surrounding area.
Twenty-five post-mortem examinations were carried out but found "no evidence" of human involvement, Scotland Yard said.
The investigation concluded humans were unlikely to have been responsible.
Instead, a fox or foxes are thought to be behind the mutilations.
During the probe, detectives received more than 400 similar reports of cats being mutilated across London and surrounding counties.
However, all of the cases of cat mutilation will be recorded as "no crime".
Six suspicious cases
Commander Amanda Pearson said each individual report had to be investigated, which led to an "increased workload" for officers working on the case.
"The decision was made to allocate a large number of similar reports of mutilated cats to the officers who were investigating the initial spate of such allegations," she said.
"In particular, they were following up six suspicious cases identified by the post-mortem examinations.
"It is this collating of reports that enabled officers to work with experts and reach the conclusion that no further police investigations are required into any of the allegations relating to mutilated cats."
The so-called Croydon cat killer does not exist, the Metropolitan Police has confirmed.
The force launched an investigation in 2015 into reports of mutilated cats, often with heads and tails removed, in Croydon and the surrounding area.
Twenty-five post-mortem examinations were carried out but found "no evidence" of human involvement, Scotland Yard said.
The investigation concluded humans were unlikely to have been responsible.
Instead, a fox or foxes are thought to be behind the mutilations.
During the probe, detectives received more than 400 similar reports of cats being mutilated across London and surrounding counties.
However, all of the cases of cat mutilation will be recorded as "no crime".
Six suspicious cases
Commander Amanda Pearson said each individual report had to be investigated, which led to an "increased workload" for officers working on the case.
"The decision was made to allocate a large number of similar reports of mutilated cats to the officers who were investigating the initial spate of such allegations," she said.
"In particular, they were following up six suspicious cases identified by the post-mortem examinations.
"It is this collating of reports that enabled officers to work with experts and reach the conclusion that no further police investigations are required into any of the allegations relating to mutilated cats."
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Cats and Foxes avoid each other,but not in croydon
Thousands of police hours spent in the last 3 years,whoever gave the order for this waste of resources should be fired.
Tru dat, they could have been sent back to do the normal police job these days which is finding people who've said politically incorrect things on Twitter and going in hard...
Somewhere in a dank London bedsit filled with decapitated toys a psycopathic dog rubs his paws and says "yes .the fools... yes .. the killing can go on" 
Has all the ingredients for a great conspiracy thread. 
Years ago the conspiracy would be that Indian restaurants were killing them and serving them up in the curries.
There was a Chinese restaurant in Scotland (cant remember where) that closed after false rumours of cats and dogs being found in their freezers.
If the Met wish to improve on their abysmal record of prosecutions relating to **** mutilation I suggest they turn their attention to the barbaric ritual of FGM 
It's a bit puzzling to me that of the reported 500 moggies that have mysteriously come to an untimely end in and around the Croydon area it is being put down to foxes. The reason I say that is that there are quite a lot of parks and woodlands around me and we get plenty of urban foxes looking for food and untold amounts of cats live locally but I've never heard of anyones cat being killed by a fox and that's over many years.
Croydon is virtually crime free so maybe it gave the police something to occupy their time between school crossing duties .
Maybe where you live the cats move around in groups thus finding safety in numbers
Maybe where you live the cats move around in groups thus finding safety in numbers
You're a bit suspicous perhaps they couldn't solve it and gave up?
I'd imagine if a fox tears a cat apart there would be fox saliva/dna all over the cat fur etc? Have they said this?
I'd imagine if a fox tears a cat apart there would be fox saliva/dna all over the cat fur etc? Have they said this?
The only crimes ever solved by the Met are those with CCTV evidence . Without CCTV they couldn't solve a crossword !
As for DNA evidence they'd have to take mouth swabs from every fox withing a 5 mile radius .
As for DNA evidence they'd have to take mouth swabs from every fox withing a 5 mile radius .
A more worrying trend is the fact that since 2015 when their investigations began , knife and moped crime has soared . A classic example getting ones priorities all wrong 
Er ... they don't test DNA to identify WHICH fox, just that it WAS A fox!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45588088
I'm really struggling to buy into the polices explanation as to the deaths of 500 cats in such a small area such as Croydon is, it just doesn't make sense to me.
I'm really struggling to buy into the polices explanation as to the deaths of 500 cats in such a small area such as Croydon is, it just doesn't make sense to me.
You'd think if cats and foxes were fighting there would be a noise and neighbours would be hearing it?
Is it a commom thing? I've never heard of it before.
Is it a commom thing? I've never heard of it before.
If I'm reading the report correctly, the police are saying that the cats were road kill which was subsequently scavenged by foxes. It's very doubtful that a fox would attack a healthy cat unless defending cubs. Cats are equipped with the means of defending themselves and a fox is likely to come off the worse for wear in such an encounter.
My childhoot cat sent dogs packing with bloody noses. A master of the claws out dab to the hooter she was :)
Foinavon, I lived in a little village for years and I was used to seeing plenty of roadkill in the country lanes. Pheasants, rabbits, hares, squirrels badgers and so on but in all that time I never saw a cat that had been run over nor a dog for that matter. In my area now, again I have never seen a cat that has been mown down and if there was fighting between cats and foxes on my doorstep then I would have heard the screaming from my front room most definitely. I live about 7 miles due North from central Croydon by the way. As I said it absolutely makes no sense to me whatsoever. If I ran over a cat I would contact the owners if I could or take it to a local vet to check the microchip details as would anyone I would have thought.
Quotes from the BBC news articles....
"It is this collating of reports that enabled officers to work with experts and reach the conclusion that no further police investigations are required into any of the allegations relating to mutilated cats.".......and it took 3 years for the experts to come to that conclusion?!!
Of course there will be some evidence of foxes teeth marks in some of the cases.....simple explanation....they found them before the owners did AFTER they were killed by the sick individual/s.
"The Met's inquiry found there was CCTV footage showing foxes carrying pet body parts in three cases.
Dr Henny Martineau, head of veterinary forensic pathology at the Royal Veterinary College, carried out post-mortems on the six cats whose deaths were initially treated as "suspicious"."
3 cases of CCTV footage and 6 cats had a post-mortem out of hundreds of cats that have been mutilated. I personally know of one left outside the back door of my ex's neighbour opposite.....head cut off, tail cut off etc
"I hope this conclusion brings comfort to pet owners who have, up until now, been frightened to let their animals out at night.".....what an absolute load of tosh. Next we will have a spate of fox kills around Croydon and the surrounding area by those stupid enough to believe this rubbish.
A very inventive way of closing down a case that the police were just too incompetent to solve.
Fake news at it's least believable.....
"It is this collating of reports that enabled officers to work with experts and reach the conclusion that no further police investigations are required into any of the allegations relating to mutilated cats.".......and it took 3 years for the experts to come to that conclusion?!!
Of course there will be some evidence of foxes teeth marks in some of the cases.....simple explanation....they found them before the owners did AFTER they were killed by the sick individual/s.
"The Met's inquiry found there was CCTV footage showing foxes carrying pet body parts in three cases.
Dr Henny Martineau, head of veterinary forensic pathology at the Royal Veterinary College, carried out post-mortems on the six cats whose deaths were initially treated as "suspicious"."
3 cases of CCTV footage and 6 cats had a post-mortem out of hundreds of cats that have been mutilated. I personally know of one left outside the back door of my ex's neighbour opposite.....head cut off, tail cut off etc
"I hope this conclusion brings comfort to pet owners who have, up until now, been frightened to let their animals out at night.".....what an absolute load of tosh. Next we will have a spate of fox kills around Croydon and the surrounding area by those stupid enough to believe this rubbish.
A very inventive way of closing down a case that the police were just too incompetent to solve.
Fake news at it's least believable....
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It seems a little unlikely, doesn't it?
Surely the Fox versus Cat thing would have been a known thing.
Surely the Fox versus Cat thing would have been a known thing.
Hundreds of thousands if not millions of song birds are tweeting happily in the Croydon area right now that otherwise would have been killed by these cats,not because the cats wanted them for food but purely because it's in their nature.
I find it surprising TBH. While I accept that a fox will generally beat a cat it would certainly know it had been in a fight.
Far easier game to be had.
Far easier game to be had.
Slippy, I take your point, you don't see squashed cats in the road but I've sometimes had cats dash across in front of me and if one were clipped by a car it would likely carry on for a bit and hide somewhere where it might die. "400 cats across London and surrounding counties" might seem a lot but how many cats are there in such an extended area? Several million probably. I don't rule out that some are being killed deliberately by sick individuals, perhaps using poisoned food, but I would rule out killer foxes.
Just Checking • September 20, 2018 5:53 PM BST
Er ... they don't test DNA to identify WHICH fox, just that it WAS A fox!
First one in the keepnet , foul hooked cos I wasn't actually fishing , but It'll do for supper
Er ... they don't test DNA to identify WHICH fox, just that it WAS A fox!
First one in the keepnet , foul hooked cos I wasn't actually fishing , but It'll do for supper
Sorry Reynard when you share a forum with the like of [deleted] and [deleted] you stop understimating people's ability to say stupid things
*flip flip flip gasp gasp gasp*
*flip flip flip gasp gasp gasp*
Like I said earlier , there are far more serious cases of 'mutilation' occurring in our wonderfully diverse capital city going unpunished , yet the grossly underfunded metropolitan police force would appear to have made a conscious decision to prioritise the less serious {potential}'crime'
Fear not , just checking , I've returned you to the water and opted for a pasta bake instead
Fear not , just checking , I've returned you to the water and opted for a pasta bake instead
No one is saying - except on this thread - that foxes were killing the cats.
Rather the cats were run over and then foxes scavenged the bodies.
Seems odd if the cats heads and tails were missing.
Rather the cats were run over and then foxes scavenged the bodies.
Seems odd if the cats heads and tails were missing.
met police on twitter...
We note some media reports state our investigation showed cats in #Croydon and elsewhere were killed by foxes. In fact, the cats were killed due to major blunt force trauma consistent with vehicle collisions. Scavenging foxes then mutilated body parts - especially heads and tails
We note some media reports state our investigation showed cats in #Croydon and elsewhere were killed by foxes. In fact, the cats were killed due to major blunt force trauma consistent with vehicle collisions. Scavenging foxes then mutilated body parts - especially heads and tails
BREAKING NEWS : Met police spend THREE YEARS investigating 'Roadkill' ..............
It's not that you "Couldn't make it up" , You simply didn't need to make it up ! They actually did it
It's not that you "Couldn't make it up" , You simply didn't need to make it up ! They actually did it
maybe they are looking for a fox in portugal to fit up for the abduction?
Didnt realise donny was a troll, wasting police time rather than wasting the interweb.
WAC
WAC
major blunt force trauma consistent with vehicle collisions
Thinking outside the box, fox could off hit them over the head with a hammer? Make it look like RTC?
Thinking outside the box, fox could off hit them over the head with a hammer? Make it look like RTC?
Mr A Fox has been detained and is currently being held in custody ...
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SlippyBlue 20 Sep 18 16:24
It's a bit puzzling to me that of the reported 500 moggies that have mysteriously come to an untimely end in and around the Croydon area it is being put down to foxes. The reason I say that is that there are quite a lot of parks and woodlands around me and we get plenty of urban foxes looking for food and untold amounts of cats live locally but I've never heard of anyones cat being killed by a fox and that's over many years.
That's not what the police are saying.
Their conclusions are all the cats were killed by blunt trauma, which they are saying means hit by road traffic.
Then the foxes come and take their heads and inflict other mutilations.
It's a bit puzzling to me that of the reported 500 moggies that have mysteriously come to an untimely end in and around the Croydon area it is being put down to foxes. The reason I say that is that there are quite a lot of parks and woodlands around me and we get plenty of urban foxes looking for food and untold amounts of cats live locally but I've never heard of anyones cat being killed by a fox and that's over many years.
That's not what the police are saying.
Their conclusions are all the cats were killed by blunt trauma, which they are saying means hit by road traffic.
Then the foxes come and take their heads and inflict other mutilations.
blunt trauma the well known dutch vermin eliminator has been no where near croydon
Suppose the boys in blue would rather make themselves laughing stocks than admit their inability to catch the culprit
Foxes will take any Carcus, why they are taking Heads off Cats ?? They would take the whole body and eat most of it ,any dead Animal will also be eaten by certain Birds Magpies will eat dead animals ,or Stricken animals ,are there
many Magpies in Croydon ?
Magpies will eat dead animals ,or Stricken animals ,are there many Magpies in Croydon ?
Don't nobody be messing with my babe!
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foxes my arse, some sick bastaard is killing them.
Sir David Attenburgh says cats are killing millions of birds a year in the U.K. ,cat owners in general and yourself in particular are just a load of hypocrites and jokers ,you even spouted off on a thread about the morals of shooting pigeons recently and even suggesting you would punch someone in the face who was intentionally harming a bird ,can you not see the problem with that statement coming from a bird murderer like you ? The idea that there is a serial cat killer coming from cat owning animal rescue tree hugger types says it all ,the Chris Packhams of this country feed the guillable luvvies and they end up irritational and paranoid ,cat runs over road and gets under car/van/truck ,disappears into a garden and hides and dies ,along comes a Fox who either finishes it off or finds the carcass and needing to takeaway its food to Cubs chews threw the neck and carries it away .Maybe the get the taste for it and devolop the skills to take a full grown moggy ,pass them to their own cubs and they do the same ,all the foxes have the taste for it ,maybe badgers too .Towns are now awash with foxes and any improvement in food litter/waste management will increase cat predation by the local wildlife ,it’s poetic imo ,poor foxes have nothing else to eat .
Sir David Attenburgh says cats are killing millions of birds a year in the U.K. ,cat owners in general and yourself in particular are just a load of hypocrites and jokers ,you even spouted off on a thread about the morals of shooting pigeons recently and even suggesting you would punch someone in the face who was intentionally harming a bird ,can you not see the problem with that statement coming from a bird murderer like you ?
I can honestly say my cats have never killed any birds to my knowledge, I've certainly never seen the evidence. They have however, presented me with several dozen dead mice, so they must be doing something right, even in your warped mind, although it distresses me to witness any animal being killed or tortured.
Of course I don't live in a leafy are like you, which explains it. The only bird I see is the Chukar Partridge and that is too big for a cat to tackle.
I can honestly say my cats have never killed any birds to my knowledge, I've certainly never seen the evidence. They have however, presented me with several dozen dead mice, so they must be doing something right, even in your warped mind, although it distresses me to witness any animal being killed or tortured.
Of course I don't live in a leafy are like you, which explains it. The only bird I see is the Chukar Partridge and that is too big for a cat to tackle.
For kenny mann from my local free paper the London Evening Standard.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/nearly-20000-sign-petition-urging-met-to-reopen-croydon-cat-killer-case-a3944206.html
Nobody, absolutely nobody in my neck of the woods in South London believes that 500 moggies have been killed by cars or have been subsequently eaten by foxes, there is no evidence to say otherwise.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/nearly-20000-sign-petition-urging-met-to-reopen-croydon-cat-killer-case-a3944206.html
Nobody, absolutely nobody in my neck of the woods in South London believes that 500 moggies have been killed by cars or have been subsequently eaten by foxes, there is no evidence to say otherwise.
Other than that is just not the case I should have said.
cHEERS SLIPPY, HAVE YOU SEEN THAT POST OF BREADNBUTTERS AT 3.25. WHAT AN ABSOLUTE **** THAT MAN IS. NO COMPASSION WHATSOEVER
Nearly 20,000 people outraged at the Metropolitan Police’s announcement to close the investigation into the Croydon Cat Killer have signed a petition calling on the force to reopen the case.
Last week police revealed who they thought the Croydon cat killer was, announcing that the culprit is believed to be foxes.
After around 500 pets were mutilated in Croydon and surrounding areas, the Met said there was “no evidence” a human had carried out the killings.
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The decision was met with fury from pet owners and animal charities alike.
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Five-month-old Storm was believed to be one of the victims (SNARL/Facebook)
South Norwood Animal Resuce and Liberty (SNARL) which had taken on numerous cases of dead cats since 2015 questioned the Met’s investigation and said it would continue carrying out its own probe.
A petition, which was started last week, has attracted thousands of signatures, with people calling for the police to “find the disgusting person” believed to be responsible for the animal’s deaths.
Vinnii West, who started the petition, said: “Metropolitan Police say however, after three years of investigation and untold amounts of public money spent, the case of the “Croydon cat killer” has finally been closed as police admitted the deaths can be attributed to vehicles and foxes.
“Animals are being killed by blunt forces, And a clean cut. Surely the ‘animals‘ killing them, would have teeth mark."
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Croydon cat killer: how the three year police hunt unfolded
Lynda Wiggins, who signed the petition, wrote: “Don’t think for one minute foxes are to blame for these horrendous acts, the families of these poor cats must feel so let down.
“The police should continue to investigate and find the human/humans responsible.”
Victims of the supposed Croydon Cat Killer also appeared to sign the petition.
Laura Francis wrote: “Some maniac killed my cat, not a car or a fox.”
Announcing the closure of its investigation last Thursday, the Met had said: "Following a thorough examination of the available evidence, officers working alongside experts have concluded that hundreds of reported cat mutilations in Croydon and elsewhere were not carried out by a human and are likely to be the result of predation or scavenging by wildlife.”
More about: | South Norwood Animal Rescue | Croydon Ca
Nearly 20,000 people outraged at the Metropolitan Police’s announcement to close the investigation into the Croydon Cat Killer have signed a petition calling on the force to reopen the case.
Last week police revealed who they thought the Croydon cat killer was, announcing that the culprit is believed to be foxes.
After around 500 pets were mutilated in Croydon and surrounding areas, the Met said there was “no evidence” a human had carried out the killings.
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The decision was met with fury from pet owners and animal charities alike.
croydoncatkillerstorm2.jpg
Five-month-old Storm was believed to be one of the victims (SNARL/Facebook)
South Norwood Animal Resuce and Liberty (SNARL) which had taken on numerous cases of dead cats since 2015 questioned the Met’s investigation and said it would continue carrying out its own probe.
A petition, which was started last week, has attracted thousands of signatures, with people calling for the police to “find the disgusting person” believed to be responsible for the animal’s deaths.
Vinnii West, who started the petition, said: “Metropolitan Police say however, after three years of investigation and untold amounts of public money spent, the case of the “Croydon cat killer” has finally been closed as police admitted the deaths can be attributed to vehicles and foxes.
“Animals are being killed by blunt forces, And a clean cut. Surely the ‘animals‘ killing them, would have teeth mark."
READ MORE
Croydon cat killer: how the three year police hunt unfolded
Lynda Wiggins, who signed the petition, wrote: “Don’t think for one minute foxes are to blame for these horrendous acts, the families of these poor cats must feel so let down.
“The police should continue to investigate and find the human/humans responsible.”
Victims of the supposed Croydon Cat Killer also appeared to sign the petition.
Laura Francis wrote: “Some maniac killed my cat, not a car or a fox.”
Announcing the closure of its investigation last Thursday, the Met had said: "Following a thorough examination of the available evidence, officers working alongside experts have concluded that hundreds of reported cat mutilations in Croydon and elsewhere were not carried out by a human and are likely to be the result of predation or scavenging by wildlife.”
More about: | South Norwood Animal Rescue | Croydon Ca
NOT EVEN WHEN I POSTED THIS PHOTO A FEW YEARS BACK.
PIGS WAITING TO BE KILLED AND EATEN, AND THAT HAPPENS TO ANIMALS YOU CAN BUY IN THE SUPERMARKET, ALTHOUGH IT'S ILLEGAL.
Maybe we are !
No's 6,7,8,22,24,33,35,36,38,39 with noodles
No's 6,7,8,22,24,33,35,36,38,39 with noodles
Police spent £140,000 and 2,250 man hours to determine victims of so-called Croydon cat killer had in fact been run over or attacked by foxes
More than £8,000 was spent on specialist post-mortems for cats in Croydon
Six cases were deemed to be suspicious and required further investigation
Operation Takahe ended with police officers claiming a fox was responsible
A total of 2,250 policing hours were spent on the probe with officers on the case ranking from police constable to detective constable
More than £8,000 was spent on specialist post-mortems for cats in Croydon
Six cases were deemed to be suspicious and required further investigation
Operation Takahe ended with police officers claiming a fox was responsible
A total of 2,250 policing hours were spent on the probe with officers on the case ranking from police constable to detective constable
Glad they took it seriously. About time animals were treated with more respect.
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