How does the BBC get away with their pro EU / anti-Brexit bias?

Is it f**k it is a tax funded public broadcaster. Very different to "state owned
su
The attacks on a free press always come from the same places. I
Chances of a free press under a far right or far left government are zero.

use like one of these deniers   - I simply love obvious characters who slavishly follow and accept the tv propaganda

enjoy your telly tubby brain fuel north person

reynard  - one of my favourites - four legs bad etc
just mentioned it on the phone to one of my daughters haha

TV propaganda as opposed to Internet propaganda? Hmmm let's follow neither & make our
own minds up.
Can you tell me who runs Civitas & how they are funded to help me make my mind up please

BBC are at it again today.

The £ had gone up 2% earlier this week and not a dickie bird from BBC news. Today It goes down 1.4% and it's headline news.

more unbiased journalism from the Brussels Broadasting Coorporation

civitas is an off shoot of the institute of economic affairs, the last time i checked they operated out of 55 tufton st, sw1. there's about ten of these think tanks which claim to be independent but are really just an extension of the tory party in and around that area, staff often move from one to another. none of them are too keen to tell you who funds them, i wonder why?  i'd treat any 'research' these people produce with a large amount of scepticism.

northanlite has it right, virtually every day remainers fill tw@tter with complaints that today is biased against them, they call the bbc the brexit broadcasting corporation.

people see the bias they want to see as this thread proves.

no it doesn't
hope this helps

another eu mouthpiece and leave wrecker speaks

Can you please explain 3.7% who funds it & who runs it

look for them on transparency international northanlite, they didnt score very well last year. funding is opaque at best, like all the other think tanks at 55 tufton st.

and do you think you would get supior and fairer broadcasting without the BBC.
Who would provide that? Or do you just wat an echo chamber?

Sep 21, 2018 -- 8:07PM, jollyswagman wrote:

look for them on transparency international northanlite, they didnt score very well last year. funding is opaque at best, like all the other think tanks at 55 tufton st.

BBC top of trust every time & you know it. A bit lefty maybe & that is because most educated people are that way inclined

you seem to be arguing with me when i agree with you

I'm arguing with myself right now. That's what Brexit has done

civitas are part of a group that have an agenda, a dangerous one imo. mark littlewood of the iea was caught red handed pimping out access to ministers and surprise, surprise there has been no comeback.

northanlite • September 21, 2018 8:12 PM BST
A bit lefty maybe & that is because most educated people are that way inclined

What statistical evidence have you got to support that one ?

Yeah apologies swag I googled them and found they are slightly less trustworthy than the BBC
We have entered bizzaro land. BBC bunch of lefties......Civitas indenpandant think wank

slightly less? feck me, i wouldnt believe anything they produce whatsoever.

can someone tell me something intelligent that someone from the bbc has said

If they are meant to be intelligent  , I would ask northanlite  to say something intelligent but that might be rude

so , the bbc , anything ?

But would you believe anything the Remoaners or the Bull****s produce?

The remainers and the bbc are meant to be intelligent : (
Any examples ?

we cannot be so divided. How do we get the country back together?
It has to be done.

nope , no one should give two hoots about this country , not now

lfc for prime minister

It’s everyone for themself , those remainer ***** have shown that

the bbc and sky rarely have a brexiteer on
look at todays performances

when they do they don't give them a single platform with little challenge like they do with remainers

they have a virtually free run

if you can't seen that you are blind and stupid

I think Scottish independence may be the only way. I man if you you believe in Brexit it is a no
brainier that you will support Scotland in its claims.

How do we get the country back together?

It cannot be done . Our country has been infiltrated by a culture for whom unity is not an option . It's very basis is divisive . It's clearly written in their scriptures .

remainers cannot and should not be forgiven for the way they have behaved since ( and indeed before) the referendum result

Oh c'mon forgive them, a bit

now I was uncertain on how  to vote at the time ,but that is something that I am sure about
The behavior if the remainers should not be forgotten or forgiven

What was the "behaviour" other than voting. I don't remember civil unrest

I’ll be quite honest , I couldn’t care so much about being a remainer or a Brexiteer
It was a matter of opinion
But I would rather have lost the vote than behave how they have done , that’s true

Sep 21, 2018 -- 8:49PM, lfc1971 wrote:

remainers cannot and should not be forgiven for the way they have behaved since ( and indeed before) the referendum result

turn the other cheek, my friend.

northanlite I’m not going to get into a stupid discussion with you
The bite should gave been respected , i don’t care how it might have gone

That was the important thing

* the vote

lfc1971 • September 21, 2018 8:57 PM BST
northanlite I’m not going to get into a stupid discussion with you
The bite should gave been respected , i don’t care how it might have gone

That was the important thing

freudian slip by lfc in a shocking slip-up admission that he's a serial fisherman :o

you've got fishing on your mind at all times sven

no  I’m sorry edy , I’m quite serious
I don’t tell lies here in front of myself

You have caught up late. I never questioned your vote. We were chit chatting about other things
&  with a sense of humour but you wouldn't understand that

I missed that , ok I’ll leave you to it

That northanlite supports Scottish Independence that would utterly bankrupt Scotland and be like Brexit on Crack and Meth shows all you need to know about his level of knowledge and intelligence. What a zoomer.

"BBC are at it again today.
The £ had gone up 2% earlier this week and not a dickie bird from BBC news. Today It goes down 1.4% and it's headline news.
more unbiased journalism from the Brussels Broadasting Coorporation Cry"

And this is the way the BBC work. Forget all the rubbish about who appears on what radio show that nobody listens to. The NEWS that is widely watched is massively skewed. They actively seek out and put hard spin "Brexit is a disaster" stories, they try and link anything bad TO brexit, and very actively filter out any stories that might portray Brexit as good or positive. This is 100% fact, just watch the news every day to see it verified.

If unemployment goes down and wages go up as the supply and demand for jobs changes, the BBC won't say this is a good thing (which it is), they'll instead try to say it's terrible as there are less immigrants (to suppress wage growth and keep people unemployed). Then if wages are kept down which is of course following supply and demand they'll instaed somehow blame the Tories. They are totally ****ed up and obsessed with their agenda.

JC, we all know Scotland would become a the new Greece. The EU want to turn every country in Europe into a vassal where Germany is the capital and France the 2nd city of a European state, the Germans failed before but they wont fail a 2nd time.

I don't think France is a city.

but never paid no attention at no school, so take that with a grain of salt.

Heard that Merkel herself wrote that Chequers thing too, but then forgot about it this week. Old age is tough.

Either way, good to so much confidence and trust in the abilities of the Scottish from their English friends :)

*to see

Not to forget the respect

jesus edy, move with times i was talking about the eu as a state, i guess being stupid is a hobby.

Can you explain that a bit more?

Do you see Paris being renamed to France? (and Berlin to Germany)
Do you think all of France and Germany would respectively unite into massive cities?
Or what were you talking?

about

IS don't lower yourself to his level.

Sep 21, 2018 -- 9:20PM, Just Checking wrote:

That northanlite supports Scottish Independence that would utterly bankrupt Scotland and be like Brexit on Crack and Meth shows all you need to know about his level of knowledge and intelligence. What a zoomer.

Explain the difference for  the "zoomer"
Catastrophic for Scotland after independence.
Bed of Roses for UK after Brexit.

How is that lowering his level? Explain!

Is edy taking this piss or what ?

No, I'm just confused how France and Germany would suddenly turn into cities if there was to ever be a Federal States of Europe (or another similar construct)

Insulting any posters intelligence is the first refuge of the ill informed

I aint called anyone stupid ?

Yeah, don't worry about that.

Just explain what you meant.

I would assume Ukippers would totally get Scots Indy & support it. It ticks every box

Unfortunately I can no longer support Scottish Indy, because the ill-informed SNP are determined to drag us back into the EU.

Hmmm, SNP were always pro EU & anti Westminste. It is a confusing picture at times.
We need to get the SNP to micro manage it

Shouldn't the will of the Scottish people be respected though in regards to EU membership? Or does their opinion not count because it's the wrong opinion?

I dont understand your post northanlite, im not a ukipper as you describe, i just detest liars.

Edy point to the post where i have to tell you more ?

x

Edy "does their opinion not count because it's the wrong opinion?"   that's straight out of the EU playbook

where Germany is the capital and France the 2nd city of a European state

Ibrahima Sonko • September 21, 2018 9:43 PM BST
jesus edy, move with times i was talking about the eu as a state,

How does the EU as a state turn Germany (a country currently) into a capital and also turn France (a country currently) into the 2nd city? (Also, EU as a state is likely wrong terminology - the Federal Republics consist of states instead of being a state themselves)

Explain!

IS's troll detector must be defective....

And that is how messed up things have become. Your argument during Indy ref was the oppositions during Brexit

It's a legit question, JC.

Or do you understand how countries are meant to turn into cities?

Ibrahima Sonko • September 21, 2018 9:54 PM BST
I dont understand your post northanlite, im not a ukipper as you describe, i just detest liars.

[i]Sep 18, 2018 -- 10:35PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:

We all KNOW her chequers deal was written by Merkel and the irish boarder is a red herring that was always down having no real border so people can walk through it into the uk.

I see :)

the bbc and sky hardly have ANY people on to speak positively about brexit

Sep 21, 2018 -- 9:54PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:

I dont understand your post northanlite, im not a ukipper as you describe, i just detest liars.Edy point to the post where i have to tell you more ?x

Any nationalist argument is similar. You may come from different angles but you will merge at times.
SNP are a bit strange as they may be the only Social Democrat nationalists ever. Almost an
oxymoron

How does the EU as a state turn Germany (a country currently) into a capital and also turn France (a country currently) into the 2nd city? (Also, EU as a state is likely wrong terminology - the Federal Republics consist of states instead of being a state themselves)

Explain!

It's an analogy (google:analogy) , whereby Germany becomes the primary seat of power backed up by France which becomes the secondary seat of power .

Correct me if I'm wrong , Ibrahima Sonko .

I know what an analogy is, Reynard, and with my splendidly humourous initial reply to it I think it shone through that I didn't think he meant that literally. However, him then following my splendid banter up with

Ibra throwing in "Ibrahima Sonko • September 21, 2018 9:43 PM BST
jesus edy, move with times i was talking about the eu as a state, i guess being stupid is a hobby."

instead of "Dude, analogy" or maybe also "haha, edy you lil cute rascal. Of course I didn't mean France and Germany will be cities in the EU as a state. C'mon, you know no-one is so stupid. Was a mere slip. Good to know someone on reads my posts with attention though. Very appreciated, love "

made me doubt that a bit.

"Jesus Mother****g Christ, edy, do you ****g know what an analogy is? I guess being stupid is a hobby. Ever heard of figurative speech? Not everything is always literal. How ****g moronic can one single person be, seriously now? Sometimes I just can't with you Germans. Good Lord, give me strength and a bottle of bourbon, and edy his first and only brain cell" would've also done :)

instead of him going ever deeper

That is a paranoid misreading of how things actually went.

There is no bigger influence  in the EU than the UK. Our civil servants are second to none.
They wrote law.

What happened that was detrimental to the UK? When were we disadvantaged?
Our civil servants and the occasional decent politician kept us ahead of the game
and by far the most influential country in the EU.

You will argue Germany, You would be wrong
We had the f***ing keys & we have really f***ed  this up.......imo
The UK ran  Europe. No decision could ever be made without them
and more importantly they didn't want to because of our ties to the USA
& beyond.

You Brexit folk just don't see the bigger picture.

You Brexit folk just don't see the bigger picture.

In other words : The majority of the voting British public are either blind or stupid ?
Maybe you should seriously consider raising your drawbridge , battening down the hatches and boarding up your windows . Hopefully you have already stockpiled a few months supply ......

It's all about banking regulation. Casino banking will commence very shortly after Brexit
& the non doms will rape the countries assets  with impunity & take the profit to some
Tax haven. Probably a British protectorate so our armed forces can protect the money
they failed to pay tax on.

Ok Reynard tell me the benefit. How were we so badly off & why will we be better off?
You've done the rich mans bidding with the offer of scraps off their table.
You will never see them, ever.
Trickle down was a myth in the 1960's so how people keep buying into it is mystifying.
You must have no pride at all to buy into it.

edy    21 Sep 18 21:54 
Shouldn't the will of the Scottish people be respected though in regards to EU membership? Or does their opinion not count because it's the wrong opinion?


It was respected when they voted to stay a part of the UK, then the UK voted to leave, by voting to stay part of the UK their votes would only be taken as a part of a whole, also  they would be unlikely to win a referendum for independence if it took place now, I don't see this argument, the will of the Scottish people, don't blame the English here look closer to home.

Well, it was a reply to someone saying he can't support Scottish independence from Westminster oppression and belittlement anymore because the ill-informed SNP would try to keep Scotland in the EU (or make them return). An independent Scotland, as theoretical and far-fetched as that is, should surely seek to deliver on what a broad majority of its citizens wants in regards to EU membership. I.e the will of the people should be respected instead of dismissing the SNP as ill-informed on the matter EU (and by extension calling all counties and 62% of the Scottish people that took part in the referendum ill-informed as well)

wow, hello edy.

hello, do I know you?

I don't think so. let me introduce myself. I am the great wisewords, leader of the tennis forum. Nice to meet you

Oh hi, nice to meet you too. I'm Étienne, but you can call me edy. :) I'm the leader of nothing and no-one.

Yeah but have a wee look back at the bulls1t. How often were the Scots told they would be out
of the EU if they voted Indy. I can picture Farage's goon face saying that very thing.
I'm not a natural nationalist but I voted Indy because I saw this coming.
We had 4 votes in my household. 3 voted No I voted yes in Indy ref
All 4 voted remain. I tried my best to warn them.
I would like to stay in the UK & the EU. Kinda sad the way things have gone.
If you are pro Brexit you need all hands on board including remainers cos it will
be ugly for a while.

as in Saint-Étienne, the city in eastern central France? hello edy. I'm sure one day you will be leader of something and someone. Have a great evening

forget the nonsense by northanlite that being part of the eu was a consideration when the Scots has their independence referendum , it wasn’t

when the yes campaign lost they were looking to find any excuse to overturn the result , just like the remainers in the eu referendum now

That was when the Scots latched onto the decision to leave the eu being relevant and important in the Scottish decision

It wasn’t and the result wouldn’t have changed ,
Those remainer and Scots nationalist types are much the same , untrustworthy .

northanlite says he tried to warn his family who voted to stay in the UK

trued to warn them about what , that Britain would leave the EU
No one thought that Brexit would happen , it came as a complete shock but northanlite says he was warning his family to vote for Scottish independence because of it

I’ve heard everything now

It's so blatant now, the bias is shameless..


Oh yes, that's why Farage has the world record for appearances on QT.

lfc1971. In short, you talk bollox.

i seem to know more about how the Scots vote than you do alias , I can take a detached and rational view ,
unlike yourself

Here’s a little example, people like you don’t vote because of your love of the EU , you vote based on your hatred of the UK

That is the story , and is always the same story

No matter what the question or the issue or the vote or the referendum

It doesn’t matter , that is what your vote is based on  , the question is meaningless
It is always the same answer , for you

"No matter what the question or the issue or the vote or the referendum
It doesn’t matter , that is what your vote is based on  , the question is meaningless
It is always the same answer , for you"

Very acccurate, for Scottish nationalists the answer is always "Independence, now what was the question?"

Look at the post above: "Well, it was a reply to someone saying he can't support Scottish independence from Westminster oppression and belittlement anymore". Oppression. LOL. What a chippy "special" person.

Everyone knows this Brexit crap is contrived b/s from the SNP. They were told by the EU they'd be out if they left in 2014, didn't bother them or their supporters then,leaving the UK was worth it. Scotland's deficit is far too big to meet the criteria to be readmitted anyway, it's worse than Greece, doesn't bother them. But Brexit offers a fight with the UK, to play to the chippy gallery, so we get rubbish from the Bravehearts above. Historically the SNP were anti EU, it's since they swung to the left that the leaders started supporting it, and many of their supporters still don't. At least that's a consistent position unlike all the two faced hypocrisy from the rest of their supporters!

Not chippy at all. Just a realistic outside assessment on the situation from someone who loves both England and Scotland, but is a citizen of neither.

BBC Brexit terminology:

* Leaving the EU, as voted for in 2016 (unconditionally) = "Crashing out".
* An 8% win by Leave = "Leave won by the narrowest of margins".
** The 16.1m Remain voters = "The people".
* Rich non-UK remain backers (e.g. Soros) = "Liberal Internationalists"

Also the wholesale acceptance of the Remain / EU agenda e.g 'The Divorce Bill':

First of all, we’re not talking about a marriage, but a membership.

The mistaken conflation of a highly emotive institution with a prosaic subscription is relevant. The dissolution of a marriage can be fraught, and entails a division of assets often unfair, taking little or no consideration of what income each party has contributed to the relationship. In the UK, many a rightly outraged spouse has seen an under-accomplished ex walk off with half the spoils of his or her successful career — which sets an ominous precedent here.

The cancellation of a membership is more straightforward. You no longer enjoy the benefits of the association; you no longer have to obey the rules of the organisation or pay its dues.

Fiscally, that is straightforward: the UK obviously continues to pay its EU contributions while still a member. Should a further transition period involve UK participation in the single market and customs union beyond the spring of 2019, the UK should clearly pay its dues for such a de facto membership. It is also sensible and just for the UK to assume the pension obligations of its own former EU employees — and only 4 per cent of EU staff are UK nationals.

Beyond that, the notion of a ‘divorce bill’ is absolute garbage and yet the phrase is now totally acceptable in BBC reports