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brassneck
10 Sep 18 00:40
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If they had all climbed on to the iceberg they would all have survived,and once they crashed into it they knew the ship would sink in two hours and it would be ten hours before they would be picked up.
The iceberg lasted for two months before melting.i can not understand that with so many people on board how come nobody thought of this idea.And they had two hours to think about it.
its very strange to say the least.
Think about it,you are on a ship and it is going to sink,the nearest thing that you can see is a monster iceberg ,but you decide to take your chance to get into a lifeboat  even though you know that there are not enough lifeboats,and a big big iceberg sticking out of the sea near by.
i think there must have been a few lies told about what really happened that night.
Why did the Captain of the ship not ram the ship headlong into the iceberg a second time and wedge the ship into the iceberg.He had two hours to think of something that might keep them afloat.
Someone needs to investigate what really happened that night.BRASS.
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Report SontaranStratagem September 10, 2018 1:08 AM BST
I agree

Personally i would have speeded up and smashed straight through the thing, like a car going through farm gates

The ship was huge ffs
Report akabula September 10, 2018 1:21 AM BST
To quote a cc oldie the iceberg was huger.
Report lewisham ranger September 10, 2018 7:59 AM BST
yes the iceberg was huger. the bit sticking out was probably bigger than the titanic and that was just the visible part. I think 80 percent of these things are under water.

and climb on to the iceberg how? Confused
Report brassneck September 10, 2018 5:14 PM BST
the ship was 20 stories high(as in american apartments)they had harpoons on board,and i guess they had rope ladders on the side of the ship.i am sure they would have had at least a 1000 shovels from the engine room as the ship burned coal and it they had a crew of real sailors they could have dug out hoals the size of sitting rooms in the side of the ice berg
remember they were sinking and no chance of surviving ,so what did they do?nothing?
Report brassneck September 10, 2018 5:17 PM BST
holesLaugh
Report SontaranStratagem September 10, 2018 5:38 PM BST
Or they could have just used the reverse to slow the ship right down and just hit it at very low knots?

Yes they might have smashed up the front a little but low speeds they've survived a head on collision imo
Report SontaranStratagem September 10, 2018 5:39 PM BST
I would have done what brass said in the circumstance though, burrored my way into the iceberg with a tea flask and waited it out till morning

It would have cozy with a warm water bottle
Report brassneck September 10, 2018 5:44 PM BST
Shackleton done it when the Endurance was sinking.
Report SontaranStratagem September 10, 2018 5:47 PM BST
tbh there wasn't a great deal going off according to reports, I mean they didn't do a lot even with the life boats, they were letting some go with like 10 on CrazyCry, I'd have been piling 100 ffs
Report brassneck September 10, 2018 6:13 PM BST
i believe that if you died on the journey White star(company involved)give 25 sterling pounds to your family as a settlement out of court.
Report pumphol. September 10, 2018 7:14 PM BST
Played bowls in the 90's with a bloke called Ken Lightoller, I asked him were you related to Charles Lightoller second in command on the ship, he said "yes he's my uncle " Shocked
Report conditor September 10, 2018 7:15 PM BST
And the white star company gained £1,69000 in insurance,which was massive for the day and age ,Wink
Report Sica Dan September 10, 2018 7:39 PM BST
It was a glancing blow so the ship would have sailed on past the iceberg.
p.s. all wages were stopped as soon as she sunk.
p.p.s.  conspiracy theory has it that it was the Olympic that sank and not
the Titanic, Capt Smith was a bit of a naval boy racer and had crashed and
damaged the Olympic prior to getting command of Titanic.
Report conditor September 10, 2018 7:54 PM BST
The white star company where in deep ****,bancupt, it was staged,as others
Report conditor September 10, 2018 8:04 PM BST
Who owned it?, a cousin to the bushes ,who supplied the Germany army with steel for thier war machine,and who controls the bushes, the Rothchilds  , let’s not go down to the woods tonight,
Report conditor September 10, 2018 8:16 PM BST
And don’t for get watch tv tonight , but get up early go to work  to pay interest on the lone government pay theses banks ,and you wonder why roads ,sufferings never get sorted ,because you can’t .... say to much you could get strung up Tongue Out
Report SontaranStratagem September 10, 2018 8:25 PM BST
Rich elites will always do sc*mmy things
Report brassneck September 10, 2018 8:49 PM BST
even if they carried on after hitting the iceberg ,they had received a message that there were in an area that there were many icebergs so i see no reason why they did not have a choice of icebergs,it is difficult to believe that there was only one iceberg.i mean to say what would be the odds of them hitting the only iceberg in the Atlantic Ocean.?
Report Reynard September 10, 2018 9:08 PM BST
1.01
Report SontaranStratagem September 10, 2018 9:14 PM BST
If I was Jack and Kate I'd have jumped on it when sailing past, they must have known she was sinking ffs
Report brassneck September 10, 2018 9:19 PM BST
i am just after reading that the Captain had failed his navigation test the first time he applied for it.and that at the beginning of the 1900's there was a serious problem for ship owners to hire a good crew because most of all sea men would be hammered with drink which was a tradition at that timeGrinGrin
Report kenny mann September 10, 2018 9:19 PM BST
The iceberg was a mile away when the ship finally sank.
Report SontaranStratagem September 10, 2018 9:20 PM BST
Could have used the life boats to ferry them to it before she sank?

I'd have swam there
Report kenny mann September 10, 2018 9:24 PM BST
Good suggestion but it would have been pitch black. Somebody must have thought of it, surely.
Report kenny mann September 10, 2018 9:28 PM BST
How would they find it? The spotters didn't notice it before it was too late. Sad
Report Sica Dan September 10, 2018 9:46 PM BST
The novella Futility, written in 1898 by U.S. writer Morgan Robertson, shows some eerie similarities to the famed story of the sinking of the Titanic, the Associated Press reports. Just how many similarities? Let’s take a look:

Name: In Futility, the boat is described as the largest ship of its day and was called the Titan.

Size: The ships were practically the same size, with the Titanic measuring only 25 meters longer.

Date: Both ships, described as “unsinkable,” hit an iceberg and went under in mid-April.

Speed: Both were capable of speeds over 20 knots.

Safety: Despite having thousands of passengers on board, both ships carried the bare legal minimum number of lifeboats.

These eerie “coincidences” strike most as borderline creepy. But was Robertson really some prescient writer?
Report casemoney September 10, 2018 10:00 PM BST
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wreck_of_the_Titan:_Or,_Futility
Report brassneck September 10, 2018 10:05 PM BST
i must have a look and see about an inquest into sinking of the TITANIC,perhaps there may be transcripts from survivors .or maybe a movie was made about the inquest.
i really think that the whole story of hitting an iceberg stinks to high heaven,i am not saying they did not hit one but a lot of strange decisions were made after they did.
Report SontaranStratagem September 10, 2018 10:32 PM BST
I also think stopping for the night was common sense as well. you know there's icebergs out there you'd sit tight for the night and tell people to just bare with it.

Forget coal just don't use any when stopped Crazy
Report brassneck September 10, 2018 10:52 PM BST
another strange story is the guy who was in charge of the binoculars got sick the day before they sailed and he went home to his bed and forgot to leave the keys of the press that contained the binoculars.After 3 days at sea they discovered that the binocular press was locked and they had no key to open the press.
Now "this is a very valid point i am about to make".IN 1912 the navigation system would not be up to modern day thecnology,so on arrival close to the land of America surely the binocular guy would know he would need binoculars to scan the horizon and look for land mark of the statue of liberty in New York harbour.
so he knew he was going to have to break open the press containing the Binoculars,so my question is this"when he was told to look out for icebergs why did he not break open the binocular press then,because he knew he was going to have to break it open at some stage of the journey?Cool
Report brassneck September 10, 2018 11:07 PM BST
now if they were trying to beat the time record for crossing the Atlantic the Binocular guy would be saying to himself"i don't want to feck things up so i better make sure i direct this ship into the correct port ,so i better get the binoculars or the Captain will have my guts for garters if i get it wrong"Cool
Report Foinavon September 10, 2018 11:08 PM BST
Perhaps because someone would have had the opportunity to steal them, then he wouldn't have been able to look for the Statue of Liberty?
Report Foinavon September 10, 2018 11:10 PM BST
There might have been an ornithologist who would have taken them to study the seagulls.
Report brassneck September 10, 2018 11:25 PM BST
he could have broken the door of the press and wore them on his neck for safe keeping,and i guess"(imvho) the binocular guy survived "and i bet he was in on the story that was told,but i truly think that the real story has never come out yet.its very far fetched that a super massive ship could sink in such a short time.Something happened that was never told.imvho.
Report Foinavon September 10, 2018 11:38 PM BST
They have examined the wreck. The divers said that the side swipe on the iceberg had popped the rivets along a flank flooding several compartments which then overflowed into others. I don't think they found the ornithologist.
Report Foinavon September 10, 2018 11:41 PM BST
I'm not sure about ships, the only one I'll be going on is the Isle of Wight ferry.
Report casemoney September 11, 2018 12:14 AM BST
The Wreck of the Titan: Or, Futility (originally called Futility) is an 1898 novella written by Morgan Robertson. The story features the fictional ocean liner Titan, which sinks in the North Atlantic after striking an iceberg. Titan and its sinking have been noted to be very similar to the real-life passenger ship RMS Titanic, which sank fourteen years later. Following the sinking of the Titanic, the novel was reissued with some changes, particularly in the ship's gross tonnage.[1]

Unbelievable the Name of the Ship in the Novel so much the same

The second half follows Rowland. He saves the young daughter of a former lover by jumping onto the iceberg with her.
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