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Shocked Absolutely Shocking  ,Not a Gun Retrieved , Plain

Thousands of Lives wasted or destroyed in the Following years ...

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By:
casemoney
When: 09 Sep 18 14:29
Anyone see the Programme on channel 4 regarding this Shocked
By:
jamesdean
When: 09 Sep 18 14:58
Don't be silly, it's only foriegners that are terrorists.
No unlawful killings by the Brits or the black and tans etc

Disgusting.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 09 Sep 18 15:05
isnt there a tribunal coming up shortly. ?? i will be honest and say i had a lot of time for sir michael jackson

but he is not going to come out of this smelling of roses. !
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Sep 18 15:12
From what I seen last night was 1 PARA snipers picking off innocent civilians Plain
By:
pa lapsy
When: 09 Sep 18 15:23
God bless your eyesight,the suppression of civil rights,the attacks and burning out of Catholic estates,internment without trial, how them poor people suffered, so much covered up.
By:
cardenden
When: 09 Sep 18 15:25
who was the prime minister ,at the time of these events
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 09 Sep 18 15:28
dunno, but it'll be nice to pin it on Labour/Tories and maybe on some deceased old ghosts and sweep it back under the carpet.
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Sep 18 15:29
Heath I believe
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 15:31
There was it seems 3 days of gunfire, that will be the IRA and the British soldiers
the British army does not shoot unarmed civilians
You are going to have to bring people like McGuinness (dead) and Adams to court if you want to know the truth
That's if they are prepared to tell the truth, good luck with that
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 15:35
civil rights as pa lapsy claims ?

They were living in the most free and democratic country with greater freedoms and opportunities than any generation in any country in the history of the world

So stop talking nonsense about rights and freedoms
By:
jamesdean
When: 09 Sep 18 15:36
the British army does not shoot unarmed civilians

aye, all 100% innocent. As said above, terrosists only come from foreign countries.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 09 Sep 18 15:37
^"the British army does not shoot unarmed civilians",  what a simply mind boggling statement,they did and they did also again a few months later in Derry, source, The Saville report.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 15:38
There will have been mistakes made , but the IRA didn’t make mistakes when they cold bloodedly massacred men women and children
So I suggest you like down about the British army
By:
jamesdean
When: 09 Sep 18 15:39
Aidan McAnespie
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Aidan McAnespie (1965 – 21 February 1988) was an unarmed civilian who was shot dead by a British soldier at the Aughnacloy, County Tyrone border checkpoint in Northern Ireland during the Troubles.

Contents
1
Biography
2
Death
3
Investigations
4
Tributes
5
References
Biography[edit]
McAnespie was born into a Catholic family in Aughnacloy, County Tyrone, Northern Ireland, a small town with a Protestant majority. He was raised by his grandmother from the age of 3; she died a month before him. He was a member of Aghaloo O'Neills Gaelic football club. McAnespie grew up with segregated schools and sports teams amid extreme tension between the Protestant and Catholic populations. Many young Catholics in town reportedly were encouraged to move to America, Australia and even England because of harassment from Unionists. "They say things like 'Got any bombs today?'" reported one of McAnespie's teammates, Seamus Singleton, shortly after his death. A Catholic priest, Rev. Joe McVeigh, stated that sons from large families were especially targeted for harassment in the hope they would encourage their families to leave.[1]
At age 16, McAnespie finished school and got a job across the border at a poultry plant in Monaghan, Republic of Ireland. He eventually became a foreman, despite the daily border crossings over the River Blackwater that reportedly involved intensive searches. The harassment against McAnespie reportedly intensified after his sister Eilish McAnespie McCabe decided to run for the Tyrone County Council as a Sinn Féin candidate.[1] McAnespie was an election worker for Sinn Féin, but both the Provisional Irish Republican Army and his priest said that he was not involved in any paramilitary activity.[2]
Death[edit]
McAnespie was travelling to a match when he was killed by a gunshot wound to the back. He had just walked past a British Army checkpoint.[3][4] The British Army said that McAnespie had been hit when the weapon had discharged accidentally as a soldier was moving the gun with wet hands. Forensic evidence suggested that the fatal shot was one of three that had ricocheted off the road two metres behind McAnespie.[5][6]
Charges were initially brought against Grenadier Guard David Jonathan Holden for manslaughter but were dropped prior to prosecution.[4] He was fined for negligent discharge of the weapon and in 1990 was given a medical discharge.[7]
He had previously said that he had been threatened by the security forces,[8] and, according to his sister, soldiers had threatened to kill him on several occasions.[9]
McAnespie's family allege a cover-up by the British government and question the likelihood of accidental discharge killing their son from a distance of 300 metres.[10] His father, in an article in the Observer Magazine, claimed that a soldier had stopped him some fifteen months before the shooting and told him, "I've a bullet here in the gun for your son Aidan".[7]


Tablet erected at spot where McAnespie was killed.
Investigations[edit]
The day after the killing, the Irish Government appointed Garda Deputy Commissioner Eugene Crowley to investigate the incident.[8] The results of the investigation were received by the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform Gerry Collins on 8 April 1988, but have never been published.[11][12] A Royal Ulster Constabulary investigation took place which concluded that the killing was accidental.[13]
In June 2008, the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) Historical Enquiries Team published its findings on the case. The report called the soldier's explanation for the killing the "least likely version" of what happened. The Ministry of Defence said it had co-operated with the inquiry and understood that this did not uncover any new evidence that would warrant further investigation.[6]
In October 2008, the PSNI investigation concluded that Jonathan Holden's gun required 9 lbs of pressure to pull the trigger, and that the soldier's account of the events was highly unlikely. It described the chances of this occurring, combined with hitting McAnespie by accident as, "so remote as to be virtually disregarded".[14]
The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, Shaun Woodward expressed "deep regret" at the incident in a statement made in July 2009, which was welcomed by McAnespie's family.[5]
In January 2016, it was announced that the Public Prosecution Service would review the decision not to proceed with manslaughter charges against the soldier.[15]
In June 2018, it was announced that A soldier is to be charged with manslaughter by gross negligence over the 1988 killing
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Sep 18 15:40
Must have been a Great Place LFC ,it was about evens you had your house Burnt down ..
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 15:41
There is always regret for innocent deaths , bring the IRA hiw were responsible for balkymuphy to trial
By:
Just Checking
When: 09 Sep 18 15:43
It was a channel 4 documentary, you know without out watching it it's going to be slanted biased left wing crap. I'm an avid documentary watcher but these days I tend to avoid anything remotely political by C4 as you know it's going to be Guardian-esque.

Unfortunately the day when C4 was to be respected is long gone.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 09 Sep 18 15:45
^ I could see the same words if the BBC made it, okay, so it didn't happen at all?
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 15:45
Now we don’t want people from Belfast or anywhere else voting into power IRA killers
And then expecting Britain to bring its soldiers to court , stop talking nonsense
By:
jamesdean
When: 09 Sep 18 15:47
Report on 11 unarmed civilians killed in a massacre - chit chat forum definition = "left wing crap"

Mind boggling ignorance
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Sep 18 15:48
Well there was a Priest on and People from the Local Community ,I don't think many of them were Tories TBH.
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Sep 18 15:49
Answer was to JC James not your Post .
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 15:50
Yes gamesdean you clown , you will be saying the IRA never killed anyone next

A priest was killed , now any sensible person knows the army is not going to shoot a priest
By:
jamesdean
When: 09 Sep 18 15:53
Resorting to personal insults = losing the arguement.

now any sensible person knows the army is not going to shoot a priest

what utter nonsense
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Sep 18 15:54
Whats your Take on the Proceedings in Derry LFC , was that not the Paras as well ?
By:
pa lapsy
When: 09 Sep 18 15:54
Bring them to trial,they murdered innocent civilians lfc,why should they not be above the law of the land?
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 15:54
There you go , I said any sensible person
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 15:55
They did not murder civilians imo , the British army does not do that
By:
pa lapsy
When: 09 Sep 18 15:56
That is already proven by the Saville report,this has been "covered up"
By:
jamesdean
When: 09 Sep 18 15:57
They did not murder civilians imo , the British army does not do that


What a pack of lies, and for that reson I'm out.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 15:58
There was 3 days of gunfire on the streets and in the estate and in the houses as the army was trying to arrest IRA men
There was gunfire from the terrorists and innocent people lost their lives
By:
jamesdean
When: 09 Sep 18 15:58
reason*
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Sep 18 15:58
Your wrong they Did , the Bogside another Massacre by the Same Mob, there was a team of Loose Cannons Employed .
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Sep 18 15:59
How many of those Interned were IRA members ,why were no arms Found ? Over the 3 days
By:
pa lapsy
When: 09 Sep 18 16:00
I'm out also,to,talk,as,wall,might,well, going to play around with them words instead for a while
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 16:02
it’s very simple bring the IRA murderers to court , let them tell the truth about there and all unsolved murders
And then we might consider the actions of the British army
Until then James dean and the others can pipe down

That’s all , they don’t like to hear anything that upsets their own version of history , too bad
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 16:03
Why were guns not found ?
I’ll tell you why , the IRA had thousands of accomplices on that estate

That’s why
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Sep 18 16:05
They could move from one terrace house to the next   , with the help of people on that estate

You know , the civilians
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Sep 18 16:06
Yes that's why the Loyalists were allowed to burn Peoples Houses down , Thousands of the RA on the Estate stood by Cheering them on ..
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