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The following was posted on a discussion on the facebook page Hope Not Hate, it's a shame relatively few people will get to read it so i've reproduced it here...

I hate the Liberal Left.

Yes. I absolutely cannot stand these people any longer, to such an extent that I am leaving Western Europe forever and moving to Poland.

I myself am a conservative leftist, not a so-called “liberal” one. I just want a fairer society for the working class, I don’t want to live in a country full of political correctness and terrorism. I’m a socialist and a nationalist, very much in sympathy with Marine Le Pen.

Something happened recently which, more than anything else I’ve ever experienced, perfectly encapsulates why it is that I hate the Liberal Left.

Someone on Facebook asked for people’s opinions on Tommy Robinson, saying that he wanted to avoid inhabiting an echo chamber. However, this man does indeed live in an echo chamber consisting of all the usual suspects: loud-mouthed young hipsters in their 20s and 30s who now live in London but originally come from somewhere else, mostly places where there aren’t many ethnic minorities. The men all have hairy faces and the women, presumably, all have hairy armpits. Middle-class narcissists. Every single one of them oozing with self-satisfaction, tripping over themselves to prove how virtuous and not-racist they are, convinced of their own superiority, convinced that every word they say is right and that they couldn’t possibly ever be wrong.

The nationalist activist Tommy Robinson had recently been jailed for thirteen months for contempt of court, for filming outside the trial of a paedophile rape gang. These rape gangs (according to Maajid Nawaz of the anti-extremist Quilliam Foundation) are 84% Muslim. Their victims – underage girls as young as eleven – are almost entirely from the white working class.

Tommy Robinson has been in prison before, for things like mortgage fraud, and on these occasions the British state have deliberately incarcerated him in prison wings populated by violent Muslim gangsters who want to kill him.

And so the Facebook echo chamber began, all about what a terrible person Tommy Robinson is, and how he is just a nasty racist who hates brown people. No evidence was shown of course, that he hates brown people. Just the usual liberal-leftist conflation of “Muslims” with “brown people”, even though plenty of brown people are Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, Sikhs, Zoroastrians, atheists etc, and plenty of Muslims are not brown.

These are the same liberal leftists who are more than happy to spit abuse at Christians – that’s fine of course, because Christians are not a race. But Muslims are, apparently, and they are above (or below?...) criticism.

I decided to put my two pennies’ worth into this “debate” (made up entirely of people agreeing with each other), and pointed out that with the rape gangs, 84% of the offenders come from one community and 99% of the victims come from another. That the girls who were raped were specifically chosen because they were white. That they were often racially abused, called “white slags” and “white trash” and so on. And therefore that what made these crimes particularly awful was that they were not only sexual abuse, but racism as well. And that Tommy Robinson has simply been defending his own community, his own tribe, his own people, against the attacks of another. It’s called loyalty.

But nobody seemed to care. Racism against white people is not something that liberal leftists care to oppose. And loyalty is not a concept that they understand.

I then turned the situation around and asked them to imagine a scenario where gangs of white British paedophiles were going around exclusively raping underage black girls – only black girls, never white girls. And that the police and authorities had covered up the problem for years.

I suggested that, in that scenario, the black community would be outraged. They would be on the streets, protesting and probably rioting. There would be civil unrest. And that actually, that would be the correct response. That would be the normal, natural, instinctual, human response.

How did the liberal leftists react to that point? They said that, in such a scenario, they hoped that not only black people would be outraged, but that everyone would get together and support them!

Right...... So, if it was black children getting raped by white men, then we should all be absolutely furious and should stand in solidarity with the black community and show them nothing but our deepest empathy and respect in their struggle.

But, as it’s only white working-class children getting raped by Muslims, we have to say nothing, and it’s not a problem, and anybody who complains about it is a brainless, bigoted, far-right, racist, ignorant, Brexit-voting, tabloid-reading, uneducated, hateful, intolerant, vile scumbag, and what Tommy Robinson is doing is, apparently, completely disgusting.

And there – in a nutshell – is why I hate the Liberal Left.

There, in a nutshell, we see the Liberal Left’s complete hypocrisy and double standards. We see their traitorous disregard for their own people, their disregard for the working class, and their sickening, grovelling, rectum-licking favouritism towards ethnic and cultural minorities.

Most of all, we see their complete lack of self-awareness. They can’t even see their own glaring, outrageous, racist hypocrisy.

Nor can they see that they are the hysterical, hate-spewing, slogan-dribbling, brainwashed automatons that George Orwell imagined in ‘1984’. They have no self-awareness. That is how stupid they are. And yet they believe themselves to be intellectuals, to be vastly intellectually and morally superior to those stupid knuckle-dragging “right-wingers”, “racists”, “Islamophobes” and “fascists” who are really just normal people who want to defend their own community.

The Liberal Left are utterly despicable.

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By:
flushgordon1
When: 05 Aug 18 08:49
You are far to kind to them ,they are vermin.
By:
A_T
When: 05 Aug 18 09:09
just how badly did you do at school?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 05 Aug 18 09:12
Well done.
You've helped spread the word.
By:
saddo
When: 05 Aug 18 09:26
It's a decent summary of the situation we are in, the type of people who pushed us here and why. Positive discrimination is discrimination and has caused us huge problems.
By:
dave1357
When: 05 Aug 18 09:42
Does no one ask why white working class parents fail their children?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 05 Aug 18 10:00
I'm always amused by the common tropes in all of these. It's just one big echo chamber where someone starts a riff and they all repeat it and spread it as if fooling anyone they're passing it off as their own independent, carefully considered opinion.

Just a clear sign that it's some poor soul lost in the whirlpool of social media where opinion and lies are passed off as news to be unquestioningly consumed by those willing to park their brains at the log in page.
By:
TheBaron
When: 05 Aug 18 10:06

Does no one ask why white working class parents fail their children?


....and non whites don't?
By:
saddo
When: 05 Aug 18 10:10
I see the op has dragged a few beardy types away from their Sunday latte.
By:
posy
When: 05 Aug 18 10:13
cos all the black fathers have scarpered....
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 05 Aug 18 10:14
History will look kindly on people like Tommy Robinson and Sarah Champion.

The real issue is why the mainstream media and politicians try to marginalize the activists and shame the masses so they do not protest with them.

The only people that protest are those with nothing left to lose. Anyone else is likely to lose their job and more.

A sad state of affairs.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 05 Aug 18 10:24
The hope is that ex-Muslim (or non-practising) like Raheem Kassam can bring some respectability to the debate and mean it is not just those with nothing to lose that protest.

Who seriously is not in favour of defending the country from racist rape gangs and forced marriage?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 05 Aug 18 10:30
Seen a bit about forced marriage lately. Not looked into it. What's the difference between that and arranged marriage?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 05 Aug 18 10:46
I am guessing in 'arranged' there is an element of choice. A friend of mine a few years ago being given the option of 2 or 3 potential partners. Pressurised to accept one at 18. Still very wrong and ended in divorce. This was in a moderate family in South Asia.

Forced is a little holiday to South Asia, passports taken away and not allowed to leave unless get married.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sarVSDPTa98
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 05 Aug 18 11:21
InsiderTrader  • August 5, 2018 10:14 AM BST 
History will look kindly on people like Tommy Robinson and Sarah Champion.

Will they f*ck? No, they won't. And no amount of internet forum agitation and popularising of nationalistic ideology will change that.

The only thing our population (and others) needs, is to learn from history and to not follow each new bombardment of this shoite.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 05 Aug 18 11:23
Oh and in the spirit of the OP and so many of the followers...

If you have the intelligence to see past all the "liberal leftists" who are invented for the purpose of enforcing the message, then we could have a tad less vitriol.
By:
jed.davison
When: 05 Aug 18 11:23
History won't look kindly on Sarah Champion?

If you have a moment, perhaps you would be kind enough to tell me why?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 05 Aug 18 11:27
no.
I have no duty to explain or justify myself to any of you.
By:
terry mccann
When: 05 Aug 18 11:38
One question, why don't the Government/Police work together to sort out these child raping gangs once and for all and then people like Robinson would be out of biz and the world would be a better place?
By:
jed.davison
When: 05 Aug 18 11:44
I get why you think Robinson will not be judged kindly, that's another debate entirely, which tbh does not interest me in the slightest.

But Champion? Surely she has acted heroically at all times?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 05 Aug 18 11:45
I will explain my answer, jed.
Insider Trader, as ever being the agitator, 'cleverly' manages to put T. Robinson and S. Champion in the same sentence.
They are not in any way, remotely alike, but by association the message is carried.
By:
jed.davison
When: 05 Aug 18 11:49
They are not alike, but your answer clearly tars them with the same brush, quite vehemently. And of course I had already realised that as so often, you hadn't thought it through. Fair enough.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 05 Aug 18 11:59
TR and Champion have the same basic message.

Stop the coverups, admit what the problem is and stop these rape gangs (and other religious/cultural issues) existing.

Champion left her job for speaking out and TR gets vilified.

Rather than shooting the messengers why do the establishment not deal with underlying problem?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 05 Aug 18 12:01
One seeks to profit from it though.


That's a fairly important difference.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 05 Aug 18 12:11
Profit?

How do you think any activist or news organisation or politician is funded?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 05 Aug 18 12:13
You seriously believe that the reason TR started the EDL and continues to speak out, risks his life, risk jail etc is to make money?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 05 Aug 18 12:13
Well a politician gets a salary that's the same no matter what they do so don't need to look for clicks.


If you don't know how people monetise social media and website hits then I suggest you look it up.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 05 Aug 18 12:16
(Of course I'm only assuming the MP isn't on FB/TW/YT constantly, isn't on right wing tv/online channels constantly, doesn't have a book to sell, isn't trying to flog brain juice etc etc. If she is, then... I'm assuming she also works with her community and campaigns on other issues completely unrelated to just one religion.)
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 05 Aug 18 12:17
Sure I know how things are funded.

You seriously believe that the reason TR started the EDL and continues to speak out, risks his life, risk jail etc is to make money?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 05 Aug 18 12:17

Aug 5, 2018 -- 11:49AM, jed.davison wrote:


They are not alike, but your answer clearly tars them with the same brush, quite vehemently. And of course I had already realised that as so often, you hadn't thought it through. Fair enough.


I referred to a copied quote from insider trader, it was he who tarred them with the same brush by association and it had the desired effect.

I'd imagine Sarah Champion would be horrified at being compared or mentioned with such a person.

Insider Trader:
As for covering things up... Are you sure????
What a fcking stupid comment. It's as if you are trying to rally troops.
Do you spend ALL your time on forums being political?

He (Robinson) does it, like all the little would be new Hitlers before him, to make a name for himself, maybe sell some books, to try realising a dream of being a glorious leader and in part because he's a thug and a no-mark football hooligan.
What he isn't is any form of leader, visionary, hero or man of the people.

But as it's of "the right" you can keep him on the top of the forum.

By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 05 Aug 18 12:17
You seriously believe that the reason TR started the EDL and continues to speak out, risks his life, risk jail etc is to make money?




Jesus, yes. It's taken you this long to figure out?
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 05 Aug 18 12:17
**Irony alert**

Chit chat has to be one of the biggest echo chambers on the net with its lonely and angry old men.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 05 Aug 18 12:18
Social media is to get the message out.

How would he get the message out without it?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 05 Aug 18 12:19
This is true, Die Linke, and it's reminded me to get on with my work.

I.T You and your ilk are doing it for him.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 05 Aug 18 12:19
PP, I am amazed you actually believe that. Surely there are better ways to make money that risk your life on a daily basis.
By:
dave1357
When: 05 Aug 18 12:25
not if you're a crim on the borders of society with no other options
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PorcupineorPineapple
When: 05 Aug 18 12:27
He has a skill for persuading people. He knows what he's good at. Don't know his qualifications but I'm guessing that the options between earning thousands for selling books, adverts and appearing on tv outstrip his potential working in more traditional spheres (never mind how limited they'd be by the number of convictions [inc fraud] he'd have to disclose). He's also a bit of a celeb, getting close to the guy who was instrumental in getting Trump elected etc. Can be very enticing and the opportunities open to him to make an absolute fortune are there for the taking.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 05 Aug 18 12:28
So that is the new argument...

He is only speaking out against rape gangs and other issues to make money and because you truely believe that none of his views are valid?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 05 Aug 18 12:29
So do you think this is a new thing or the actual game plan all along when he started the EDL?
By:
twizzle22
When: 05 Aug 18 12:32
Study..PP..A-T..1357..Die link

All Like the blind leading the bloody blind.Sad people each and everyone.
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