i can solve brexit.

piffle

maybe,but it will unite the people and cut out all the political arguments and no one can be blamed ,no matter what happens because it will be the true will of the people.

Who will it Unite Brass ?

We don’t want to unite the people  it’s good to torment the remainers most of them are too wicked to be allowed to vote again

Says the man who couldn't torment a small rodent.

there’s one there , I told you what they are like  : )

nite nite , their tear stains make me want to laugh

I told you I did!!!! I told you first!!!!

WAFC

you see the government would not need permission to ask the people if they would like a second vote,it different than asking them to vote again.
we all know that the brexit outcome will inevitability lead to civil unrest all across the cities and towns of the UK.
Once the people start to lose their jobs,lose their homes,no heating and no electricity,and supermarkets end up with empty shelves,packed hospitals with no medicine,and all the rest(imvho) people will take to the streets.
but if they do what i suggest it will be the people who vote what the outcome will be and society or politicians can not be blamed,the people will decide the UK'S future now that everyone knows the real facts,and as i say "nobody can be blamed once the people get the choice on should there be another vote.

You’re Irish brassneck , so pipe down  about the UK , thanks

Jul 27, 2018 -- 11:22PM, lfc1971 wrote:

You’re Irish brassneck , so pipe down

so will you practise what you preach and not comment on any other countries then?

Yes I will practice what I preach , if Ireland vote to leave to leave the EU  , or stay in the EU ,
I won’t advise  them to have another vote
That would be rude
Ok with that ?

If Scotland vote to leave the UK , or remain in the UK , I won’t advise them to have another vote
Ok with that ?

No but Ireland voted then told to vote again with a lot of
threfts into the bargain if they voted to leave
all sounds familiar

Why didn't someone think of this before ? Absolute masterstroke !
Maybe after each General Election we should give it a fortnight and then ask the electorate if they want another general election . In fact why don't we have a general election every 3rd Thursday of the month . That way the Government would feel obliged to adhere to their manifesto or risk the wrath of the people on a rolling basis . We could then play the Hokey Cokey with the EU etc...............

Jul 27, 2018 -- 11:40PM, lfc1971 wrote:

Yes I will practice what I preach , if Ireland vote to leave to leave the EU  , or stay in the EU ,I won’t advise  them to have another vote That would be rudeOk with that ?

that will be a no then.

What are these "real facts" that we all now know ?

we the plebs are been indoctrinated with fake news according to mp,s and we need saving from ourselves thank fook for that does that mean all manifesto promises have to be enshrined in law and will prince Charles be apologising for name calling all those who though his bishop friend was a peado,the ffs the bishop accepted a warning which meant he,s accepted hisguilt and still prince Charles wouldn't believe it

gobsmacking listening to the bbc and Murdoch journos on sky banging on about fake new,after them ignoring stories about a certain religion of peace for years

the biggest fake news stories were committed long before social meia was invented
Hillsborough
jimmy Saville
WMD
WAR IN IRAQ
birmingham,guildford bombings
shoot to kill
etc.etc
and the snowflakes wetting themselves because vote leave mobilised enough people to vote in favour of what most people in europe think is a good idea to leave the eu

if its any consolation to you guys Ireland will suffer a bigger disaster than the UK but both are heading down the tubes if the 1.01 no deal comes in.

Jul 27, 2018 -- 10:39PM, brassneck wrote:

you see the government would not need permission to ask the people if they would like a second vote,it different than asking them to vote again.we all know that the brexit outcome will inevitability lead to civil unrest all across the cities and towns of the UK.Once the people start to lose their jobs,lose their homes,no heating and no electricity,and supermarkets end up with empty shelves,packed hospitals with no medicine,and all the rest(imvho) people will take to the streets.but if they do what i suggest it will be the people who vote what the outcome will be and society or politicians can not be blamed,the people will decide the UK'S future now that everyone knows the real facts,and as i say "nobody can be blamed once the people get the choice on should there be another vote.

All this stalling is causing plenty of unrest and threatens to kill the political system as we know it.
As the logo goes the the T-shirt goes:

JFDI.

And y'know why they don't want us to trade with the rest of the world.
It's competition. Pure and simple.

Birmingham , Guildford bombings were not 'fake news' . They were Police corruption , as was Hillsborough to a large degree .
WMD and War in Iraq were Government corruption .

Reynard
just pointing out that the public have had the wool pulled over their eyes since time began ,now the establishment don't like it when the public buy into far ,right,far left propaganda ,it only works when those given power abuse it and shaft the plebs

Murdoch,s sky cuties bemoaning fake news on sky today saying theres no journo experience behind the stories is laughable ,maybe they,d like to ,list the thousands,upon thousands of apologises on the bottom corner of page 14 for stories they ran that turned out to be untrue, [ fake news I think they call it today ], ,
would have more respect for the mp,s report if it read
THE ESTABLISHMENT DONT LIKE IT UP,EM

The truth of the matter is they did not want brexit to happen - poured out the scare stories and spent a fortune on remain whilst garnering  all the foreign intervention and propaganda. Foreign interference every where with the TV stations solidly behind them.
They knew that last afternoon they had won.

BUT ooops  the peasants were not listening  - that is the problem -IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN and they were not ready for a No vote.

Once the people start to lose their jobs,lose their homes,no heating and no electricity,and supermarkets end up with empty shelves,packed hospitals with no medicine,and all the rest(imvho) people will take to the streets.

Brassy, they are not real facts (unless you are referring to what the EU did to Greece). It's propaganda designed to soften us up for a second vote or to accept either Brino or staying put.
The real facts will only be known after we have left. Hope that helps.

brexit will happen sooner(for us) or later for the rest,the eu in its present form is dead and they need us to stay in to kick the can further down the road,when we leave it will quicken it up and the crash will be bigger than the last one,so we either get out now and have a chance to limit the carnage or wait until it falls and feel the full force of the carnage like the rest of the eu

Jul 28, 2018 -- 5:22PM, Foinavon wrote:

Once the people start to lose their jobs,lose their homes,no heating and no electricity,and supermarkets end up with empty shelves,packed hospitals with no medicine,and all the rest(imvho) people will take to the streets.Brassy, they are not real facts (unless you are referring to what the EU did to Greece). It's propaganda designed to soften us up for a second vote or to accept either Brino or staying put. The real facts will only be known after we have left. Hope that helps.

There are a lot of reputations at stake here. If we DO leave it's going to be very interesting imo.

It's clear from the propaganda wall and government antics that THEY want Brexit reversed.

"If we DO leave" sums it up.

Talk about rats in a barrel.
And those fat cats are making the whole country a laughing stock.
When really, the joke is on the EU.

None of you miscreants understand the jobs that are at risk

You simply do not have a clue.

There are all the MEPs  out of a job. Then government ministers. Representatives to the EU.  All there support staff.
And think of all the expenses trough they will no longer be able to stick there noses in just like the Kinnocks did.

Jul 28, 2018 -- 7:29PM, moisok wrote:

None of you miscreants understand the jobs that are at riskYou simply do not have a clue.

What's that line they keep giving the unemployed? " Re-train, and get on your bike. " ?  Seemples.

wait until the tariffs come in and all UK GAMBLERS  will have to pay it to the irish company paddypower/betfair

Make your MEP work for a living support Brexit

No UK will HAVE TO pay tariffs to the Irish company Paddy Power, we have a choice.

I'm beginning to wonder why I still bet with the IRISH company Paddy Power as I've been boycotting Irish goods ever since the EU hand puppet loon Varadkar started telling us what we can and can't do.

*No UK Gambler...

Take out london and the brexit leave campaign would have won in a landslide

Jul 29, 2018 -- 12:13PM, G Hall wrote:

Take out london and the brexit leave campaign would have won in a landslide

I couldn't agree more. Well said sir.

A new dawn, if not a FALSE dawn, and a new age for the innovators and the entrepreneurs, jeez! I got that in one without the spellcheck, approaches and I for one am so hopeful though not exactly brimming with confidence that the power-brokers with actually deliver.

This...this... reality check is so over due.

The problem with London is they think everything has to revolve around in
The Trains assume to want to go through London when your route is planned
and costs a fortune more.But Londoners get a freedom pass giving free travel
for those living in.https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/adult-discounts-and-concessions/freedom-pass

Do other cities do the same

A freedom pass?
And all of the non-Londoners pay for this I suppose.

yes of course we do

i hope you all are clever enough to put your watches and clocks back 200 years if its a no deal.

If it gets rid of unreliable and slow digital and brings back superfast pigeon
then i'm all for it

Cant understand why BMW,Merc,Audi aint putting plants up in this country
cause after brexit unless built here people will not afford to buy them
so massive loss of sales for them.

you guys think i am crazy ,but check this thread next April and you will read posts about the 2nd brexit vote that took place,and check the daily news for the next 3 weeks and you will here sound bites and hints from both sides about a second vote.First the UK Will be told by the EU that they are not allowed to have a second vote,(a trick),this will get the hair standing on the backs of the necks of the UK people and soon Theresa will announce that the UK will have a second vote if they wish to do so.(and she will be cheered for this statement)(part of the plan).And then all the people of the UK will say"we will have a second vote if we want to"(people hoodwinked again) and finally you will read that
The UK DEFY EUROPE RULING AND DECIDE ON SECOND VOTE(telling Europe that they will make their own decisions on their future)
and behind closed doors the champagne corks will pop and the back slapping will begin,and the UK people will say"who the feck do Europe think the are telling us we cant have another vote,that will show them who rules"

Jul 28, 2018 -- 10:19AM, 1st time poster wrote:

the biggest fake news stories were committed long before social meia was inventedHillsboroughjimmy SavilleWMDWAR IN IRAQbirmingham,guildford bombingsshoot to killetc.etcand the snowflakes wetting themselves because vote leave mobilised enough people to vote in favour of what most people in europe think is a good idea to leave the eu

Fake news has been used to control the masses since way before the ones you list in the shape of organised religion. 

The sad reality is that a substantial proportion of the population will believe any old guff they hear without doing any further checking of its veracity.  You only have to look at the amount of bull spouted on an almost daily basis by Trump - yet he's the one crying fake news louder than most! 

Scary times.

Jul 29, 2018 -- 10:11PM, wit-ham wrote:

Cant understand why BMW,Merc,Audi aint putting plants up in this countrycause after brexit unless built here people will not afford to buy themso massive loss of sales for them.

There are 220m households within the EU as of 2017 and 27.2m in the UK.  While it would be a significant loss of sales, the UK market is tiny compared to the EU as a whole.  Is the UK domestic market alone sufficient to justify the expense of setting up supply and manufacturing chains?  I doubt it.

Yes Latalomne but or 27.2m households of those outside cities and a lot in have minimum of 2 cars per household
obviously dont know how many cars per household in EU .So 50 million sales is not to be sniffed at at 20 odd grand a pop minimum

You do realise not everybody buys BMW, Merc or Audi?  Even fewer will be able to afford to if NO DEAL happens.

Nobody is going to invest in the UK until they know what the situation is going to be moving forward, or what deals are likely to be possible for imports from outside the EU.

Yes Latalomne the same applies to EU not everybody drives a BWM etc
and that is exactly the point if brexit ever happens mercs etc will be very
expensive unless built over here.
  Understand that nobody will invest but you can say the same about any non eu country
All i can go on is what my eyes see and my own ideas of what i see going on working
with the public for 30 odd years
  The car parks at the station i work 45 miles from mecca are full of German/Italian/French cars
to the tune of around 70% the rest are a real mixture also we do not have the handing in of season tickets
(lost jobs)we had in 2006/07 and could predict what was coming.If anything seasons are increasing according
to the news(not 100% sure of that myself but a lot have gone online)
  Yes it a long post i not always make sensebut don't see the disaster in the long run
unless those at the top decide to pull the rug from underneath as they did in the late eighties.
  Sorry long post

Of course not everybody drives a BMW in the EU, but the EU market is almost 10 times the size of the UK market.  In percentage terms it would be a HUGE investment to build a plant here, particularly if you could then only realistically expect to export to non-EU countries (because I can't imagine for one moment that we'll be able to produce them any cheaper than factories within the EU after EU import tariffs have been applied; as an aside, 56% of UK manufactured car exports went to EU countries in 2016).  We manufacture about 11% of the car components that the Germans do, so there would likely be import tariffs imposed while getting those to manufacturers in the UK - all adding to the cost.  In short, if I did most of my trade within the EU, there would be plenty of places I would look to invest before I considered investing in the UK.

but its the German fat cats that own BMW MERC and Audi and they play for the other team,If the UK get an easy leave the other 27 will want to leave.

and the Germans/french, own British Rail and British Energy and can pull the plug anytime they wish and hit the UK with massive tariff's ,so no deal is still 1.01 but may cause a backlash.all in all the leave vote has caused a shambles that nobody can solve ,and time is running out,thats why i say the answer to everything is to vote again and make sure to get it correct .The facts are there if people really care about their country,and stop the voting on party lines.(imvho)

the answer to everything is to vote again and make sure to get it correct .

Nah , let's just have 'Brexit' and that'll serve everyone right for getting it wrong first time around !

It's the Dutch/Germans/Japs/Frogs and a few others that own the railways
along with probably nothing British owned in most places these days.