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23 Jul 18 19:14
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2 British ISIS terrorists who were involved in the filmed beheading of aid workers, are being tried in the US, and if
convicted may face the death penalty.
The British government has said it will not oppose the decision, even though the death penalty is against the law in Europe.
However, shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott has called the decision " abhorrent and shameful"

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By:
twizzle22
When: 23 Jul 18 19:17
Well are we surprised.White skin colour of the miscreants and totally different reaction from the most racist politician in the country.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Jul 18 19:23
Keep your nose out of it Britain and let America deal with them
By:
themightymac
When: 23 Jul 18 19:40
Pair of evil *****.

..... the terrorists that is, not you two above Crazy
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Jul 18 19:46
not just diane abbott , and labour in parliament against death penalty....

odd case, i doubt anybody really cares what happens to them after the crimes they have carried out.

if they were in some other country where they faced death penalty there may well be less of an outcry.

i suspect they knew the risks when carrying out their crimes.


i hope they get a fair trial, ....
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 23 Jul 18 19:52
Plenty of MP's on both sides of the house called the decision shameful. Don't get me wrong.I would prefer the scum to avoid the death penalty and be forced to live whatever is left of their lives in a US prison. Death is too good for them. What the Home Secretary is doing is wrong though even though they deserve to die.
By:
alun2005
When: 23 Jul 18 19:58
Here's news of Abbott's latest disgraceful antics.  "Abhorrent and shameful" indeed.

It is a terrifying thought that this chancer could be Home Secretary.

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https://order-order.com/2018/07/23/diane-abbott-drops-bogus-ipso-complaint/
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Jul 18 20:02
before they were captured they would have been targets for british drones to kill them.

execute em and martyrs are created, jail em and some nutter will use them as a chip
and will seek their freedom by doubtful means

we should continue to oppose death penalty , ...
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Jul 18 20:08
We’ve heard all that before, America will decide thank goodness
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Jul 18 20:18
they may of course be sentenced to death, and make no appeal against it
By:
moisok
When: 23 Jul 18 20:45
exotic people cannot be racist
By:
akabula
When: 23 Jul 18 20:58
What a disgraceful person she is.
By:
Injera
When: 23 Jul 18 21:01
Enemy of the State : Ms Abbott.
By:
moisok
When: 23 Jul 18 21:03
she is only representing her constituency members

read what you like into that

it is all a bit scarey

she massively increased her vote last time

like other things about her that have increased
By:
akabula
When: 23 Jul 18 21:13
I doubt anyone of integrity could bring themselves to ask America to spare them the death penalty.
By:
casemoney
When: 23 Jul 18 21:16
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By:
cardifffc
When: 23 Jul 18 21:21
lets hope the US do the right thing
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 23 Jul 18 21:22
I don't know anyone who likes Diane Abbott, or thinks she should have her job!
Personally I rarely, if ever agree with anything she says.

But posting stuff from the Mail isn't good, posting stuff from 'Guido Fawkes' is even worse, it's partly the choice of reading that makes this forum the "think-tank" it now is.

She isn't alone in opposing the death penalty, the other MP's who say the same aren't being quoted because Abbott is good press.

lfc.
Have you considered taking up American citizenship or applying to move there (become an immigrant), given you think everything American is so great?
By:
A_T
When: 23 Jul 18 21:23
Tories softening the nation up in preparation of a pro-death penalty ticket - so as to get the Deplorables on board a la Trump
By:
moisok
When: 23 Jul 18 21:24
applying the same logic should brussels be the place for you study
By:
Just Checking
When: 23 Jul 18 21:24
America is being made great again. Get with the program.
By:
moisok
When: 23 Jul 18 21:27
It is a bit troublesome if this neo nazi trumpton is making it better for his voters and making piece deals with two despots who threaten the world(so the tell me) 

we simply have to put him in his plaice as a moron etc

what had obomba done be 4??  although a  much better placeman for the US establishment
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 23 Jul 18 21:29
I hate Brussels.
Along with most cooked veg.
I'm not keen on stuffing or bread sauce either.
By:
akabula
When: 23 Jul 18 22:43
So why might Mr Javid take this decision, in apparent breach of long-standing British policy?
He says in his letter he has "strong reasons" for not seeking any assurances. He does not say what these reasons are.
But he suggests that this case is "distinct" because the two fighters of British origin - part of the so-called "Beatles group" - are accused of kidnapping and murdering UK and US citizens, how they are treated will be an example to others, and there is a need to deliver justice to their victims' relatives.
But none of this explains why Mr Javid might want to risk the political backlash that will follow any decision to weaken Britain's opposition to the death penalty.
Perhaps the real motivation is the government's desperation to avoid having to try these two men in Britain.
They are currently being held in northern Syria by the Syrian Democratic Forces. They have been stripped of their UK nationality.


From the BBC report. Surely that last sentence is relevant here. Or am I wrong in assuming that we would only ask for leniency when British citizens are involved.
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Jul 18 22:50
if they were not british then he wouldnt be answering questions in parliament

but i just saw dick cheney answering questions from sacha baron cohen about trying to shoot dan quale

so anything is posible
By:
Reynard
When: 24 Jul 18 01:27
Live By The Sword ............ quite literally !
By:
jed.davison
When: 24 Jul 18 08:36
This, I'm afraid, is just symptomatic of what is wrong with British Governments of the last thirty years. Outsourcing has gone too far.

Try them here, hang them in Trafalgar Square.
By:
jed.davison
When: 24 Jul 18 08:38
I watched the debate in Parliament yesterday - indicative of just how out of touch they are.

I get the legal argument, the precedent argument, the martyrdom argument, all of that. But to see people appointed to represent the people arguing lest these scumbags be harmed by Uncle Sam was simply disgusting.
By:
moisok
When: 24 Jul 18 15:03
plenty of kudos to be earned amongst the mps with the liberal thinking people

unfortunately they would have no idea how to defend the people coz they are not really interested in doing that

got to hurry off and get those expense claims in
By:
Platini
When: 24 Jul 18 19:59
first off, they were stripped of their British citizenship, so they have no rights.
secondly, and more importantly, they are terrorist scum, so human rights don't apply

death sentence fully deserved IMO, and I'm fully in favour when it comes to the worst scum on the planet (terrorists, child killers, and pedos)

but, the islamist nutters are a special case, because they want to be martyrs.
So in their case, I would just keep them based up for life, and have them endure daily (public) humiliation(that is their worst nightmare)
By:
cardifffc
When: 24 Jul 18 20:19
hope they execute a day after finding them guilty..........not this 12 years on death row..........torture them first
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 24 Jul 18 20:29

Jul 24, 2018 -- 8:19PM, cardifffc wrote:


hope they execute a day after finding them guilty..........not this 12 years on death row..........torture them first


Maybe you could chat to them in a seemingly innocent converstaion on here Wink

By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 24 Jul 18 20:29
conversation*
By:
ufcdan
When: 24 Jul 18 21:57
It amazes me that those who have no regard for human rights are then defended by those who do. As for me, fxxk em ! Death penalty or life in a US jail within the general prison population (Same outcome) As for Abbott Cry
By:
sofiakenny
When: 24 Jul 18 22:11
Lets create martyrs..we are better than these filth and should prove why.
By:
ufcdan
When: 24 Jul 18 22:15
I don't want to be better !
By:
cardifffc
When: 25 Jul 18 14:31
denzil think they should be let back in the country and be rehabilitated in to society
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 18 14:36
I think life in jail in an American prison would be a better call than the death penalty. I do understand why people would want them to be executed and I am not averse to it for them but I think what The Home Secretary has done is very dangerous. There is a Tory MP asking for the Laws on treason to be changed and that is dangerous and misguided. We are nearly at the 200th Anniversary of the Peterloo massacre. Were the victims there treasonous? Some were jailed!
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 25 Jul 18 14:46

Jul 25, 2018 -- 2:31PM, cardifffc wrote:


denzil think they should be let back in the country and be rehabilitated in to society


No cardifffc I was continuing the ribbing from yesterday look at the post times.

By:
cardifffc
When: 25 Jul 18 15:09
denzil............never seen a person talk in so riddles like you
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