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GCSE chemistry set or fabricated terror?????

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By:
The Leopard
When: 04 Jul 18 08:48
^ Is that you Vlad ?
By:
The Leopard
When: 04 Jul 18 08:56
The pair were found unconscious at an address in Muggleton Road

My money is on that geezer, Voldermort !
By:
terry mccann
When: 04 Jul 18 09:21
Burnt the toast? Blame the russians
By:
The Leopard
When: 04 Jul 18 09:28
Putin's Criminal Gang.....not the Russians in general.
By:
terry mccann
When: 04 Jul 18 09:45
very easy to say that Leops but if there is no evidence I tend not to believe what we are told.And there was no evidence!
By:
The Leopard
When: 04 Jul 18 10:51
You believe we did not land on the moon....I rest my case.
By:
terry mccann
When: 04 Jul 18 10:56
I rest my case,what a immature answer,did I expect anything else? nah!
By:
1st time poster
When: 04 Jul 18 17:06
boris found a coupe of patsys .clear the Russians and boris and treason may can go to the world cup final and hopefully watch England, LaughLaugh
By:
Injera
When: 04 Jul 18 17:14
Laugh
By:
leazes67
When: 04 Jul 18 18:09
Rogue batch of spice.
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jul 18 22:02
Pair found unconscious in Wiltshire poisoned with same nerve agent as ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal, police say
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 22:09
I was with you all the way until I read those final two words "....... police say" .

At that point the rest of the sentence became irrelevant .
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jul 18 22:12
Charles in the Area with  Bowles 12 days back
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jul 18 22:14
Nothing to do with Russia why would these Two people be attacked ? If they ramdomnly came into contact with it, why only them Two ?
By:
The Leopard
When: 04 Jul 18 22:28
England may be pulled out of World Cup because of this ! Shocked
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jul 18 22:30
Very Doubtful Leopard  , I think we may find the Culprits are closer to home ,More likely some nutter has managed to get hold of the Stuff.
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 22:36
Deflection tactics , there must be some serious political scandal about to break out in the red-tops .
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jul 18 22:38
Quote possible Rey Plain
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 22:39
Have they said whether they have ruled out 'terrorism' ?
By:
Facts
When: 04 Jul 18 22:51
Spokesperson on Newsnight surmising that the couple have been accidentally been contaminated with the ' left overs ' of the nerve agent discarded by the person responsible for the Russian poisoning.
By:
Facts
When: 04 Jul 18 22:51
Good point Reynard
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jul 18 22:52
Seems strange it would take so long for others to come in contact with the substance ? If that is the case.
By:
Facts
When: 04 Jul 18 22:57
Stating is could haven ' discarded' in the countryside - and as it takes a long time for it to biodegrade - it would just be lying there waiting for unsuspecting individuals to come into contact with it.
Possibly on a picnic , or walking the dog !

You really couldn't make it up !!!
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 23:01
If they haven't ruled out a terrorist act , then I think its fair to assume its NOT terrorist related .
By:
dustybin
When: 05 Jul 18 09:03
Authorities bent out of shape at how well the world cup is going without any problems.
Need the people back on script.
By:
Reynard
When: 05 Jul 18 09:21
Two foreign nationals poisoned in Salisbury , potentially false information accusing a foreign state of responsibility (Russia) , no convictions , and the expulsion of russian diplomats follows within days .

Thousands of British girls are raped and abused in towns and cities throughout the UK , hundreds of convictions (mainly foreign nationals or of foreign descent) , no expulsions ...........
By:
howard
When: 05 Jul 18 10:01
Couple reported as an ordinary British couple. Homeless drug addicts.Grin
By:
Reynard
When: 05 Jul 18 10:34
I see that a government spokesperson in reference to this most recent 'poisoning' has mentioned the russians yet again .
I fear that if we beat Sweden in the 1/4 final and Russia come through against Croatia , Gareth Southgate will receive a phone call from the Prime Minister , not to wish him and the team "good luck" but to order them to return to the UK immediately because military action is imminent !
By:
leazes67
When: 05 Jul 18 10:34
The Amesbury Mystery 110
5 Jul, 2018  in Uncategorized by craig
We are continually presented with experts by the mainstream media who will validate whatever miraculous property of “novichok” is needed to fit in with the government’s latest wild anti-Russian story. Tonight Newsnight wheeled out a chemical weapons expert to tell us that “novichok” is “extremely persistent” and therefore that used to attack the Skripals could still be lurking potent on a bush in a park.

Yet only three months ago we had this example of scores from the MSM giving the same message which was the government line at that time:
“Professor Robert Stockman, of the University of Nottingham, said traces of nerve agents did not linger. He added: ‘These agents react with water to degrade, including moisture in the air, and so in the UK they would have a very limited lifetime. This is presumably why the street in Salisbury was being hosed down as a precaution – it would effectively destroy the agent.'”

In fact, rain affecting the “novichok” on the door handle was given as the reason that the Skripals were not killed. But now the properties of the agent have to fit a new narrative, so they transmute again.

It keeps happening. Do you remember when Novichok was the most deadly of substances, many times more powerful than VX or Sarin, and causing death in seconds? But then, when that needed to be altered to fit the government’s Skripal story, they found scientists to explain that actually no, it was pretty slow acting, absorbed gradually through the skin, and not all that deadly.

Scientists are an interesting bunch. More than willing to ascribe whatever properties fit the government’s ever more implausible stories, in exchange for an MSM appearance fee, 5 minutes of fame and the fond hope of a research grant.

According to the Daily Telegraph today, the unfortunate Charlie Rowley is a registered heroin addict, and if true Occam’s Razor would indicate that is a rather more likely reason for his present state than an inexplicably persistent weaponised nerve agent.

If it is however true that two separate attacks have been carried out with “novichok” a few miles either side of Porton Down, where “novichok” is synthesised and stored for “testing purposes”, what does Occam’s razor suggest is the source of the nerve agent? A question not one MSM journalist seems to have asked themselves tonight.

I am slightly puzzled by the picture the media are trying to paint of Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess as homeless, unemployed addicts. The Guardian and Sky News both state that they were unemployed, yet Charlie was living in a very new house in Muggleton Road, Amesbury, which is pretty expensive. According to Zoopla homes range up to £430,000 and the cheapest ones are £270,000. They are all new build, on a new estate, which is still under construction.

Both Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess still have active facebook pages and one of Charlie’s handful of “Likes” is a mortgage broker, which is consistent with his brand new house. They don’t give mortgages to unemployed heroin addicts, and not many of those live in smart new “executive housing” estates. Both Charlie and Dawn appear from their facebook pages to be very well socialised, with Dawn having many friends in the teaching profession. Even if she has been homeless for a period as reported, she is plainly very much part of the community.

Naturally, there is no mention in all the reports today of MI6’s Pablo Miller, who remains the subject of a D notice. I wonder if he knows Rowley and Sturgess, living in the same community? It should be recalled that Salisbury may be a city, but its population is only 45,000.

The most important thing is of course that Charlie and Dawn recover. But tonight, even at this early stage, as with the entire Skripal saga, the message the security services are seeking to give out does not add up. Mark Urban’s piece for Newsnight tonight was simply disgusting; it did not even pretend to be more than a propaganda piece on behalf of the security services, who had told Urban (as he said) that Yulia Skripal’s phone “could have been” tapped by the Russians and they “might even” have listened to her conversations through the microphone in her telephone. That was the “new evidence” that the Russians were behind everything.

As a former British Ambassador I can tell you with certainty that indeed the Russians might have tapped Yulia, but GCHQ most definitely would have. It is, after all, their job, and billions of our taxes go into it. If tapping of phones is seriously presented as evidence of intent to murder, the British government must be very murderous indeed.
By:
Reynard
When: 05 Jul 18 10:43
Reynard • July 4, 2018 2:52 PM BST
There is a suggestion that she was in possession of very sensitive , maybe even incriminating , information that specific individuals did not want revealed but it is pure speculation . However , there is compelling evidence to suggest that this may be the case . Either way it does paint a very disturbing picture of the British security services .

Following the recent 'spy poisoning' case in Salisbury it was revealed that Novichok was the specific nerve agent used and that this indicated that the "Russians did it" . Who revealed this information ? The government controlled media . Oh well it MUST be true cos it was on the BBC ! Case closed !
Very few people stop to think the following :-
If the Russians wanted him dead why didn't they do it while he was incarcerated back home in Russia ?
If the Russians did it why did they use a Russian nerve agent produced nearly 2000 miles away in Moscow ? (The ultimate "smoking gun")
If the Russians did it why didn't they simply execute him with a single bullet and make a good job of it ?

Let's face facts , if Novichok WAS the nerve agent involved Skripal and his daughter WOULD NOT have survived .
The probable nerve agent used is between 10-20% of the lethal capacity of Novichok .
Novichok is produced 2000 miles away in Moscow , weaker nerve agents are produced at Porton Down ONLY 10 miles from Salisbury .

Motive ?
Well it wouldn't be the first time that a government tried to deflect attention away from other issues . Maybe , with Brexit on the horizon it wouldn't be a bad idea to make the British people feel that they needed the comforting arms of our European neighbours rather than be cast adrift and left to fend for ourselves . Either way it is highly probable that the Russian's didn't do it ...... WE DID IT !!
By:
The Leopard
When: 05 Jul 18 11:31
Putin's Russians Mafia did do it !

Right wing suckers like you have been fooled.

You are supporting a foreign criminal gang's activities !
By:
Reynard
When: 05 Jul 18 12:17
Right Wing ? Surely defending the president of a communist country makes one 'Left Wing' or am I getting my wings confused ?

Or maybe its just a label that's attached to anyone who questions the propaganda fed to the masses by the government controlled mainstream media ..............

Why not go the whole hog then and label me as 'facist' and 'racist' at the same time and get all the name calling over with in one hit ?
By:
dave1357
When: 05 Jul 18 12:20
Reynard • July 5, 2018 12:17 PM BST
Right Wing ? Surely defending the president of a communist country makes one 'Left Wing' or am I getting my wings confused


rofl
By:
dave1357
When: 05 Jul 18 12:22
reynard moves to number one in the chit chat top ten right wing ignoramus's list
By:
Reynard
When: 05 Jul 18 12:25
BANG ! Get in there ............ I'm number one woo-hoo .

Not sure why but I'll take it as a compliment , thanks dave Love
By:
moisok
When: 05 Jul 18 12:31
Good old Burley nose whoodunnit.  Astonishing bias from the girl on sky. Ho ho

The answer is. THAFC  (they haven't a fkn clue)

Putin has done a good job of covering his tracks.

OR.......?
By:
moisok
When: 05 Jul 18 12:35
But takes up lots of airspace does it not.

Keeps us off the crisis of our utilities, Infrastructure, low wage crisis, immigration problems, violence, gang crime etc.
Telford continues but continues to be ignored.

use all know what they are up to

stick to the agenda

I am off to read about getting rid of nelson and churchill monuments - NOW THAT IS NEWS!!!
By:
moisok
When: 05 Jul 18 12:38
Burley doing a superb job of whipping up the panic and hysteria  ho ho ho
By:
Just Checking
When: 05 Jul 18 12:38
I thought novochoc played left back for Croatia.
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