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By:
detraveller
When: 03 Jul 18 19:14
can you send me the link to that?
By:
stewarty b
When: 03 Jul 18 19:17
This book is not what I need for a friend but the same author....


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Agoraphobia-Effective-Treatment-Claire-Weekes/dp/0207148775/ref=sr_1_17?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1530641735&sr=1-17&keywords=claire+we
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Jul 18 19:29
I think its just an anomaly. That 972 pounds book is being shipped from the US and i think the cheaper ones from UK. Its possible the american store doesnt have the book so they list it so expensive no one buys or if some idiot does, they win. Amazon should be able to filter that out though.

Are you seeing this often? If yes, the expensive one is from the same store every time?
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Jul 18 19:47
have tried to look around but cant find a good reason for this.
By:
trilby22
When: 04 Jul 18 09:28
Totally reliable, for me.  Been using them for years - never had a problem getting things delivered.  Sent things back twice - sorted all without any problems at all.  Prime is worth taking out around Christmas for the free & fast deliveries - cancel in the new year.
By:
stewarty b
When: 05 Jul 18 08:11
Amazon should be able to filter that out though



Here's my concern detraveller. Why do they allow this practise? Surely any filtering should be done beforehand and not put on their site?
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Jul 18 09:08
We are still not sure if that's the reason for the ridiculous price. If it is, can amazon stop people from setting their own prices?  don't think so. What I meant by filter was to show a UK customer that the book isn't available as new in UK. And that his next best chance is buying from the US.

There could well be some other reason for that price, such as the edition of the book on offer being rare etc.
By:
NBK
When: 05 Jul 18 09:38
Amazon are great, sometimes they deliver things twice and sometimes you receive goods that are not for you. I received 25kg of dog biscuits once. phoned amazon and they said to keep it - sold it to my neighbour for a tenner
By:
Just Checking
When: 05 Jul 18 12:28
"Prime products are always expensive so you are just paying for a timely delivery,"

This is total nonsense? Prime is a deal where you get some TV stuff/kindle Stuff and free delivery for like a year. The stuff they'd normally send on a slower free delivery etc becomes free. Obviously they have to proected against having the p1ss taken but I just checked right now and can plenty of stuff on prime delivery for like 5-6 quid.
By:
Just Checking
When: 05 Jul 18 12:28
becomes faster is what I meant to say.
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 05 Jul 18 13:05
One thing to add, re third party sellers, is that they are afraid of bad reviews, which adversly affects their rating,
and are at risk of having their accounts closed!

I have found that they go to great lengths to give satisfaction!

I bought some lightweight summer loafers, which in fact came from China.

Didn't take too long to receive them but, unfortunately, they were too large and I wasn't going to suffer the cost of returning them.

I e-mailed the seller, and the response was same day.

He said to keep them, and they would send out a smaller pair.

I bought some beer glasses, and they sent the wrong ones. Same response, to keep them, and they sent the correct ones.
By:
Aspro
When: 05 Jul 18 13:14
There you have it; the weight of chit chat confirming that Amazon is most definitely a worthy outlet

Next?
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Jul 18 13:45

Jul 5, 2018 -- 12:28PM, Just Checking wrote:


"Prime products are always expensive so you are just paying for a timely delivery,"This is total nonsense? Prime is a deal where you get some TV stuff/kindle Stuff and free delivery for like a year. The stuff they'd normally send on a slower free delivery etc becomes free. Obviously they have to proected against having the p1ss taken but I just checked right now and can plenty of stuff on prime delivery for like 5-6 quid.


It is total nonsense if you remove the sentence before it and quote it completely out of context. The sentence before was:
Prime has no financial value in terms of shipping

I was only referring to its value in shipping, where I have ALWAYS seen similar products sold by someone else for lesser price. Basically other stores prices + shipping costs = Prime prices. Of course this might not always be true but for all the shopping I have done on Amazon, it holds true.

Of course there are other things that come with prime and they might have great value, but if you are buying Prime only because of free shipping then you are an idiot because its not free shipping. The only advantage is that the delivery is timely.

By:
detraveller
When: 05 Jul 18 13:52
Whenever I need to buy something from amazon, I just create a new account, signup for trial prime, cancel it immediately, connect to the same bank account and enjoy timely deliveries for my products for the whole month. Sometimes amazon are nice and they offer me a trial on my main account anyways.

As i said, the worst thing that can happen is they catch you and ban you. That's where your wife comes in.
By:
Gin
When: 05 Jul 18 14:24
Stewarty - some info on that here:

http://mebfaber.com/2018/04/18/how-to-launder-money-with-amazon-aka-why-all-my-books-are-now-free/


One reader forwarded this article on Amazon Money Laundering written by Brian Krebs.  He argues that serious money laundering is going on with stolen credit cards:

“Reames said he suspects someone has been buying the book using stolen credit and/or debit cards, and pocketing the 60 percent that Amazon gives to authors. At $555 a pop, it would only take approximately 70 sales over three months to rack up the earnings that Amazon said he made.”
By:
Just Checking
When: 05 Jul 18 14:30
Detraveller you are talking nonsense? Pretty mucy EVERYTHING they stock that's theirs can be sold prime, they do not change the price of the article dependent on you ordering prime or not. Given they are notoriously hated by other people for undercutting them, given their prices ARE cheap, and given prime doesn't change price at all how can you possibly argue prime is factored in?
By:
Just Checking
When: 05 Jul 18 14:32
The only other thing to say about prime, as others have noted, is they try to push it on you, so be careful when checking out that you haven't put that as the delivery option if you don't want it (free month trial then will auto debit your account at end of month for a year if you don't cancel). It's incredibly easy to do as they put that as the prominent option.
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Jul 18 14:57
@JC, As i mentioned, all products that I have bought that were worth saving some bucks on, I have found that others are selling similar stuff, and when I choose to buy prime, I get higher prices which make up for the difference. So in the end I don't get any big advantage. I usually am only buying computer related stuff or small household gadgets. It is quite possible that I am completely wrong, but prime, speaking in terms of shipping only, does not give me any advantage personally.

prime doesn't change price at all how can you possibly argue prime is factored in
I am not saying that they increase the price of the 'same product' when i choose prime. What i am saying is that the same product is available with some other seller for a cheaper price.

And I am also not implying that Amazon is cheating by doing it this way. Im just saying I don't see any advantage of prime in terms of shipping. So basically if you were buying prime because you think you can save shipping costs, you are wrong.
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Jul 18 15:15
Here's an example:

I bought a VGA cable recently.
The cheapest cable I see now on amazon is 3.29 + 5 Euro for shipping.  Total 8.29
The cheapest with prime is 6.3. The same product, if i refuse prime, is 10.3 Euros.

Yes I do save 2 Euros here, so you aren't wrong in what you are saying. If I were to look harder I could easily find someone shipping it cheaper, and thus reduce the 2 euro difference as well that prime is offering me. This is what I usually do and therefore i said I have never seen any financial benefit of prime shipping whenever ive had to buy something, especially things like the cable above. I don't buy too often which is why signing up for prime for cheaper shipping doesn't suit me.

And though this was not my point, I do see now that prime is telling me on the checkout that I am saving 4 euros on shipping when actually im not becasue I can buy the same product from the first seller for 8.29. At best, I am saving 2 Euros. Prime wants me to sign up for a year with them so I can save 2 Euros.

Again, im not saying they are doing anything wrong. Im just saying if you shop smart, you don't need prime for shipping.
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Jul 18 15:19
And I must add that I had to look around to look for that cable for 6.3 with prime. The first results I got from amazon, despite arranging according to price, was a cable for 13 Euros. This is what I usually observe with prime products.
By:
detraveller
When: 05 Jul 18 15:20
So if i checkout with that product, I'd still be told on checkout im saving 4 euros with prime, but that means fk all. I am not saving anything. I am just buying a more expensive product plus a membership fee.
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Jul 18 16:46
There's apparently a big sale on 16th july I think for amazon prime people only. The chosen ones.
As Jesus said:
"Blessed are the Amazon Prime subscribers, for they shall inherit the gadgets they don't really need that will gather dust in a cupboard".
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 07 Jul 18 22:38
They are legit but use a multitude of different delivery companies. No delivery company has the geographical knowledge and reliability of Royal Mail. If you live out of the way or in a tricky area (new build gated flats etc) rest assured whoever is delivering it will put you as not in or leave it somewhere daft for it to be lost/stolen.

It's no longer fashionable to use eBay but a lot of sellers are still on both sites. If I see something I like on Amazon I look for the duplicate on eBay and check if they are using RM.
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Jul 18 22:46
They used to always use all sort of people but recently for me it's much amazon logistics.
I like them but do what you do, if it's a marketplace item (I'm careful to check of course) I'll check for it on ebay.
It's sometimes cheaper on there but I sometimes use ebay anyway as I instinctively think they'll be more likely to care about it due to the importance of feedback.

Also the delivery on ebay etc .. you get more control. Amazon it tends to be "buy and thats it" with often a ridiculously overestimated delivery time in a hard to read layout. Ebay you can often chose different delivery types, leave a note about it when ordering, ask questions, have more reliable feedback to read, ask for a tracking ID up front, chase it easier etc.

But for non marketplace I've been happy with amazon direct. EVen BIG shops can surprisingly use amazon marketplace, a while ago I saw something from a big shop then ordered it direct from their website, I think it was a bit cheaper and their website had something else I wanted. So their amazon listing got a direct sale :)
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