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perfectly normal
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its almost like a hobby for some , not me
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can you imagine if you were caught doing it!
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7367805/Television-producer-who-filmed-himself-having-sex-with-women-jailed.html |
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I feel sorry for the mp who blocked it, they are going to make his life hell
but I admire him |
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We might have to get to a situation were everything is recorded , everything we do in life 24 hrs a day
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no one need see it, but it would be there recorded, everything we say and do
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Chope married Christine Mary Hutchinson in April 1987 in Wimborne Minster and they have a daughter, Antonia, born in February 1990 and a son, Philip, born in August 1992.[citation needed]
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that doesn't look good at first glance
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Corbynistas are much worse
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I heard about this on the news yesterday morning.
Later I was on an escalator and just ahead of me was a guy wearing a kilt. I remembered the two year sentence and though better of it!!!!! |
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btw... lovegod
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study I was merely commentating on the giggilos post before mine
whats wrong with that? |
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I hope his constituents reelect him
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He will be, he has one of the largest majorities on the country. (nearly got 70% last time)
I expect this will eventually get through anyway and all it has achieved is embarrassing the Tories for a few days when May already looks weak. I also expect there will be eventual reforms to the system and not in a way he likes. Most people don't care about the HoC anyway but may well be engaged by a story by this and be put off later. Btw, he also did the same on a bill with regards to attacking police dogs, horses etc. And has previous for doing so, even on bills the government is supporting |
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Well, lfc, each to their own I suppose, but I cannot understand why you think what this MP does is ok. Or why you'd hope he got reelected. He will, he's in a safe seat, but
to block a bill outlawing upskirting? What's good about that? |
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Its already illegal, and there are much more important things to be doing than wasting time on this
The fool of an mp who is bringing this through parliament should be de selected for wasting everyones time |
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The MP who objected didn't do so because he thinks upskirting is good. He did it to prevent a law being passed, which carries a prison sentence, by a practically empty House of Commons. He argues that something so important should have a proper discussion. Otherwise you can end up with all sorts of new laws with stiff penalties being made at the whim of just a few people. You either thoroughly discuss and approve a new law, no matter how noble people may think it, or you let a handful of MPs turn whatever they want into a criminal offence.
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That's a very good post Lybertyne.
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Has he done this for other laws when Parliament has been half empty or is this a first?
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an the law being passed
make up skirting a criminal offence |
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Does it also cover down blousing?
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I gusset depends on how you're trying to sneak a peak.
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what about chum trousers
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Two points
1. These people are weird. No one should take a picture of anyone without their consent regardless of what the picture is of. 2. Is this something the police should be spending their time on when 2 in 5 girls and 1 in 5 boys are suffering abuse, rape gangs operate throughout the country and most regular crimes go unsolved? |
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bill won't be ready till july
feel free with your smartphones |
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IT - in answer to your second question, I'd imagine if this happened to you or if you had daughters and it had happened to them your answer would be yes. The reason resources are spread thin is nothing to do with investigating "less worthy" crimes.
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It does actually. If resources are used on things like scanning for comments on Twitter there is less resources for following up CSA cases.
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Not really. It's not just a pool system where every copper follows up on every crime. There are teams and budgets etc etc.
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would it be possible for women to wear shorts under their skirts ?
I don’t know |
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lfc getting quite excited, never seen so many posts
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: ) I don’t know the whole thing just seems so comical
let the peepers have their fun |
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This is the kind of thing the MPs should be making strong laws to stop and the police should be acting on.
Instead they choose to pick off easy targets. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5850281/ROBERT-HARDMAN-did-police-stop-travellers-destroying-historic-brewery.html |
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In a statement to the Mail, a spokesman says: ‘We didn’t stand by and let things happen. We took decisions based on the resources we had available at the time during an extremely busy weekend of unprecedented demand, along with consideration for our officer safety due to numbers of travellers and their potential hostility, not to go to the site. Officer safety is and has to be integral to any operational decision.’
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Isn't breaking and entering, or stealing, or vandalism already on the statute books?
Are you saying our MPs should be deliberating already existing laws rather than new ones aimed at protecting young women from pervs? |
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16 Jun 18 12:23 Joined: 03 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 5,052 | Blogger: PorcupineorPineapple's blog Isn't breaking and entering, or stealing, or vandalism already on the statute books? Are you saying our MPs should be deliberating already existing laws rather than new ones aimed at protecting young women from pervs? ^ Of course it should be illegal but is it a top priority for the police to enforce when they refuse to enforce the basic laws we have on certain minorities? You make all the laws you like and collect all the data on people you like but if nothing is enforced you are wasting everyones time. |
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That's a completely separate issue IT.
Happens plenty of times that police (or ambulance or fire crews for that matter) will stay back if there's a serious risk of of them or civilians being hurt or killed by them barging in. As for it being a top priority, not one person has said that. It is just a law that's finally being drawn up to stop some people being utter nuisances, pervs, or bully boys. The simple act of making it illegal will act as a significant deterrent in itself so is worthwhile. |
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Of course these people should be stopped.
My fear is things like this and monitoring Twitter etc are just diversions from the bigger issues. The fact this gets more coverage than Telford is mad. |