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By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Jun 18 21:24
perfectly normal
By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Jun 18 21:25
its almost like a hobby for some , not me
By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Jun 18 21:30
can you imagine if you were caught doing it!Laugh
By:
The Leopard
When: 15 Jun 18 21:38
.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7367805/Television-producer-who-filmed-himself-having-sex-with-women-jailed.html
By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Jun 18 21:42
I feel sorry for the mp who blocked it, they are going to make his life hell

but I admire him
By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Jun 18 21:51
We might have to get to a situation were everything is recorded , everything we do in life 24 hrs a day
By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Jun 18 21:52
no one need see it, but it would be there recorded, everything we say and do
By:
The Leopard
When: 15 Jun 18 21:58
Chope married Christine Mary Hutchinson in April 1987 in Wimborne Minster and they have a daughter, Antonia, born in February 1990 and a son, Philip, born in August 1992.[citation needed]
By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Jun 18 22:00
that doesn't look good at first glance
By:
lfc1971
When: 16 Jun 18 07:16
Corbynistas are much worse
By:
lovegod
When: 16 Jun 18 07:50
I heard about this on the news yesterday morning.

Later I was on an escalator and just ahead of me was a guy wearing a kilt.

I remembered the two year sentence and though better of it!!!!!
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 16 Jun 18 08:07

Jun 16, 2018 -- 7:16AM, lfc1971 wrote:


Corbynistas are much worse


See, lfc, this is the stuff that's so unnecessary.
"Corbyn(istas)" is in no way relevant or pertinent to any part of the topic or discussion.

The idiot Chope. Whose constituents (Chopeistas?) almost certainly don't even realise he's the person they're voting for, together with a bill brought forward by a Lib Dem and supported by the government and all the women who've had their gussets photographed are the people involved...

Yet you still manage to pop a little Corbyn into the thread.

By:
STUDYFORM
When: 16 Jun 18 08:08
btw... lovegod Laugh
By:
lfc1971
When: 16 Jun 18 08:14
study I was merely commentating on the giggilos post before mine

whats wrong with that?
By:
lfc1971
When: 16 Jun 18 08:18
I hope his constituents reelect him
By:
aaronh
When: 16 Jun 18 08:30
He will be, he has one of the largest majorities on the country. (nearly got 70% last time)

I expect this will eventually get through anyway and all it has achieved is embarrassing the Tories for a few days when May already looks weak.

I also expect there will be eventual reforms to the system and not in a way he likes. Most people don't care about the HoC anyway but may well be engaged by a story by this and be put off later.

Btw, he also did the same on a bill with regards to attacking police dogs, horses etc. And has previous for doing so, even on bills the government is supporting
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 16 Jun 18 08:46
Well, lfc, each to their own I suppose, but I cannot understand why you think what this MP does is ok. Or why you'd hope he got reelected. He will, he's in a safe seat, but
to block a bill outlawing upskirting? What's good about that?
By:
lfc1971
When: 16 Jun 18 09:07
Its already illegal, and there are much more important things to be doing than wasting time on this

The fool of an mp who is bringing this through parliament should be de selected for wasting everyones time
By:
lybertyne
When: 16 Jun 18 09:17
The MP who objected didn't do so because he thinks upskirting is good.  He did it to prevent a law being passed, which carries a prison sentence, by a practically empty House of Commons.  He argues that something so important should have a proper discussion.  Otherwise you can end up with all sorts of new laws with stiff penalties being made at the whim of just a few people.  You either thoroughly discuss and approve a new law, no matter how noble people may think it, or you let a handful of MPs turn whatever they want into a criminal offence.
By:
Torquemada
When: 16 Jun 18 09:34
That's a very good post Lybertyne.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 16 Jun 18 09:47
Has he done this for other laws when Parliament has been half empty or is this a first?
By:
xmoneyx
When: 16 Jun 18 09:50
an the law being passed

make up skirting a criminal offence
By:
lovegod
When: 16 Jun 18 09:53
Does it also cover down blousing?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 16 Jun 18 09:56
I gusset depends on how you're trying to sneak a peak.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 16 Jun 18 10:05
what about chum trousers
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 16 Jun 18 10:15
Two points

1. These people are weird. No one should take a picture of anyone without their consent regardless of what the picture is of.

2. Is this something the police should be spending their time on when 2 in 5 girls and 1 in 5 boys are suffering abuse, rape gangs operate throughout the country and most regular crimes go unsolved?
By:
xmoneyx
When: 16 Jun 18 10:20
bill won't be ready till july


feel free with your smartphones
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 16 Jun 18 10:25
IT - in answer to your second question, I'd imagine if this happened to you or if you had daughters and it had happened to them your answer would be yes. The reason resources are spread thin is nothing to do with investigating "less worthy" crimes.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 16 Jun 18 10:36
It does actually. If resources are used on things like scanning for comments on Twitter there is less resources for following up CSA cases.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 16 Jun 18 10:46
Not really. It's not just a pool system where every copper follows up on every crime. There are teams and budgets etc etc.
By:
lfc1971
When: 16 Jun 18 11:26
would it be possible for women to wear shorts under their skirts ?
I don’t know
By:
cooperman
When: 16 Jun 18 11:53
lfc getting quite excited, never seen so many posts BlushBlushBlush
By:
lfc1971
When: 16 Jun 18 12:07
: ) I don’t know the whole thing just seems so comical
let the peepers have their fun
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 16 Jun 18 12:16
This is the kind of thing the MPs should be making strong laws to stop and the police should be acting on.

Instead they choose to pick off easy targets.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5850281/ROBERT-HARDMAN-did-police-stop-travellers-destroying-historic-brewery.html
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 16 Jun 18 12:17
In a statement to the Mail, a spokesman says: ‘We didn’t stand by and let things happen. We took decisions based on the resources we had available at the time during an extremely busy weekend of unprecedented demand, along with consideration for our officer safety due to numbers of travellers and their potential hostility, not to go to the site. Officer safety is and has to be integral to any operational decision.’
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 16 Jun 18 12:23
Isn't breaking and entering, or stealing, or vandalism already on the statute books?



Are you saying our MPs should be deliberating already existing laws rather than new ones aimed at protecting young women from pervs?
By:
mini me
When: 16 Jun 18 12:26



Ah, that's better!
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 16 Jun 18 12:31
PorcupineorPineapple
16 Jun 18 12:23
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Isn't breaking and entering, or stealing, or vandalism already on the statute books?



Are you saying our MPs should be deliberating already existing laws rather than new ones aimed at protecting young women from pervs?

^

Of course it should be illegal but is it a top priority for the police to enforce when they refuse to enforce the basic laws we have on certain minorities?

You make all the laws you like and collect all the data on people you like but if nothing is enforced you are wasting everyones time.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 16 Jun 18 12:43
That's a completely separate issue IT.


Happens plenty of times that police (or ambulance or fire crews for that matter) will stay back if there's a serious risk of of them or civilians being hurt or killed by them barging in.



As for it being a top priority, not one person has said that. It is just a law that's finally being drawn up to stop some people being utter nuisances, pervs, or bully boys. The simple act of making it illegal will act as a significant deterrent in itself so is worthwhile.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 16 Jun 18 13:22
Of course these people should be stopped.

My fear is things like this and monitoring Twitter etc are just diversions from the bigger issues. The fact this gets more coverage than Telford is mad.
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