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another day another mass shooting in the usa
another day another mass shooting in the usa
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one arrives as one posts
they dive in like lemmings over a cliff |
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Another day some old script.
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same old rhetoric from the president as well - these shootings will keep happening and they'll keep saying the same old thing, trying to kid themselves that the USA is not a complete mess
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Its like this event never even happened
 CNN/BBC/ etc have all dropped it down the page and are now running with some plane crash and the Royal Wedding Absolutely bonkers |
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it's getting so commonplace now we are blase about it. oh another shooting. just an everyday occurrence now. it's not even shocking anymore. people will eventually all become numb to it. when people stop crying about it that's when you've got to worry because humans will have that much ptsd they aren't even shocked by it any more and are just numb. "oh well we'll rebuild". there are darker times coming, people.
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One of the murdered girls was Pakistani exchange student Sabika Sheikh.
Her family back home in Karachi must have been thinking she'd got the good end of the exchange. |
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Why would you kill people you don't know and therefore have no grievance against?
Because you're in the army now.. |
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Sean Hannity has the answer guys
https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/05/18/following-texas-high-school-shooting-sean-hannity-calls-government-monitor-every-students-social/220256 SEAN HANNITY (HOST): It's not a gun issue. Every time it happens, the worse -- it's always a different gun. So that's not the issue here. The issue here -- well, there is some issues with gun safety, you can't let mentally ill people have guns. Criminals don't obey the laws by their very nature. We also have to have, every school district needs to have some person that monitor's every kid's social media postings, maybe they need two people. This is a reality now that they're telegraphing what they're going to do. Terrorists do it. These school shooters do it. |
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lfc's garbage in this thread is amazing, even by his standards
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Hannity - its always a different gun - jesus wept these are the kind of people that have influence in America today
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People killed by handguns last year:
Japan - 10 UK - 50 Switzerland - 47 Canada - 611 Israel - 105 Sweden - 41 The United States - 38,658 |
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Sean Hannity has two points of some interest.
First, he says mentally ill people should not have guns. Last year President Trump revoked an Obama measure to extend background checks for mental illness before buying guns. Second, schools should monitor social media posts. I don't know but I'd be surprised if there are not already computers doing this to identify terrorists. If so, it could be extended to school shootings. You'd still need human evaluation but that could be centralised. |
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anyone who believes those figures by Donny will believe anything
for a start there are about 30,000 suicides every year in Japan |
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Maybe 40,000 in America
In Japan they don’t have guns, in America they do How many America suicides were by gun, take that off the total And how many Japanese suicide were not by gun , but would have been Now that’s just a start , they are other factors to subtract from America’s gun deaths also Completely false numbers There is no point quoting numbers if you don’t understand numbers |
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Stop talking $hyte
Read this http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/the-gun-massacre-america-isnt-talking-about/news-story/2ce3d693d182cb31ca7dbab186b2564c |
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can we get some numbers on how little violent tv and computer games are being watched/played elsewhere compared to america
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crystal hunt I have explained to you why donnys figures are sh1te
Now if you want to come up with the real facts go ahead |
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Start with how many murders by gun, not suicide. not police killing of villains , not accidents , not gang warfare
Murders of innocent people , go ahead ..... |
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lfc - as you know sources for this data are multiple and various. But here's one that purports to be for 2015. You'll no doubt have better and more up to date info.
"Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher.[12] Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns.[12]" |
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Blackburn that’s not murder of innocent people , that is gang related deaths
America has gang murders due to the very make up of its society , similar to Brazil and Mexico and Honduras etc There is no point in saying that America is a rich country, no it’s not Not any more so than Brazil or Mexico and it has the same gang land problems Now I asked murder of innocent people ... |
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http://www.gunviolencearchive.org |
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Not accidents or suicide or police shooting or self defence etc
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Home 2018
Total Number of Incidents 22,070 Number of Deaths1 5,465 Number of Injuries1 9,965 Number of Children (age 0-11) Killed or Injured1 236 Number of Teens (age 12-17) Killed or Injured1 989 Mass Shooting2 102 Officer Involved Incident Officer Shot or Killed2 104 Officer Involved Incident Subject-Suspect Shot or Killed2 869 Home Invasion2 781 Defensive Use2 626 Unintentional Shooting2 641 Gun violence and crime incidents are collected/validated from 2,500 sources daily – incidents and their source data are found at the gunviolencearchive.org website. 1: Actual number of deaths and injuries 2: Number of INCIDENTS reported and verified 22,000 Annual Suicides not included on Daily Summary Ledger Numbers on this table reflect a subset of all information collected and will not add to 100% of incidents Data Validated: May 20, 2018 |
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What are the figures donny. The last ones you gave were very misleading
Well downright wrong |
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Blackburn that’s not murder of innocent people , that is gang related deaths
doubt it, going by these 2 in particular. 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 |
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You see they included suicide didn’t they , and the Japan figures didn’t include suicide
Why not ? |
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How many women killed in Japan , without guns ?
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lfc - leaving aside your view that gang related deaths cannot by definition be "innocent people", please quote any of the stats you have read that inform your view.
As I said the source of date on this subject is multiple and various. How about quoting some that you agree with, instead of just dis'ing others views. |
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well so far the only stars I see are those by funny
They were as i have had to explain , wrong and either deliberatedly so and misleading Or misunderstood |
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there is a perfectly innocent explanation to 90% of something happening in 33% of a total population
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stats by donny
Now have you any more ? That is murder by gun in America |
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It’s a very simple question, 50,000 American deaths
And 10 Japanese That is complete sh1te |
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the link is there
each report is detailed if you have a few years to read through them there will be new additions tomorrow, and the day after ..... |
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so no new figures then. Good
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lfc - So which set of stats on this thread are you happy with? Donny's of 20.07. Is that it?? Nothing at all from you?
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Blackburn I don’t know the figures , but what I do know is how to understand figures when I see them
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So to repeat, which set of figures are you relying on, in order to understand them and form your apparently solid view on the subject??
If I understand your assertion correctly; It is that gun related homicide of "innocent" people is no worse in the USA than in other large/developed countries. Do I describe your position correctly? |