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kenny mann
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Dennis Andrew Nilsen (23 November 1945 – 12 May 2018)[1] was a British serial killer and necrophile, also known as the Muswell Hill Murderer and the Kindly Killer, who murdered at least 15[2] young men in a series of killings committed between 1978 and 1983 in London, England. Convicted of six counts of murder and two of attempted murder at the Old Bailey,[3] Nilsen was sentenced to life imprisonment on 4 November 1983, with a recommendation that he serve a minimum of 25 years.[4] He was most recently incarcerated at HMP Full Sutton maximum security prison in Full Sutton in the East Riding of Yorkshire, England.

All of Nilsen's murders were committed in two North London addresses in which he alternately resided throughout the years he is known to have killed. His victims were lured to these addresses through guile and murdered by strangulation, sometimes accompanied by drowning. Following the murders, Nilsen observed a ritual in which he bathed and dressed the victims' bodies, which he retained for extended periods of time, before dissecting and disposing of them via burning upon a bonfire, or flushing down a lavatory.

Nilsen became known as the Muswell Hill Murderer as his later murders were committed in the Muswell Hill district of North London; he also became known as the Kindly Killer, in reference to his belief that his method of murder was the most humane.[5] Owing to the similar modus operandi of the murderers, Nilsen has been described as the "British Jeffrey Dahmer".[6] He died in prison on the 12th May, 2018.
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Report DenzilPenberthy May 13, 2018 1:23 AM BST
I mentioned him on a thread a while back kenny watched a couple of documentaries interesting if you're into serial killers etc.,was lucky to get away with what he did as he had many attempts not reported due to the times and there'll be many missing young lads down to him also.
Report kenny mann May 13, 2018 1:27 AM BST
Hi DP, I don't have a fascination with serial killers, even though I used to drink in the same local as the Black Panther. My pal lived next door to him, and I knew his wife and daughter well, but have no recollection of Neilson (same name, different spelling)
Report lybertyne May 13, 2018 1:32 AM BST
I can't imagine a world with no CCTV, DNA or ANPR.  It must have been so much easier to get away with crimes back then.
Report DenzilPenberthy May 13, 2018 1:33 AM BST
No fascination for me either kenny but enjoy the documentaries like 'Inside the mind of a serial killer' and the like.
I've seen that one as well (Black Panther) he used to be in the army from what I remember and was a meticulous planner of his attacks.
I live 2 doors away and played with a murderer as a child (seemed normal as an adult too) I think he started taking taking drugs and had psychological effects,very quiet parents in fact his dad passed away about a month ago.

http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/35-years-sobo-killer-neil-4494461
Report DenzilPenberthy May 13, 2018 1:34 AM BST
Aye libertyne when you look back at alot of these you always say to yourself that would never happen now etc.
Report DenzilPenberthy May 13, 2018 1:44 AM BST
There are survivors of Nilsen who've played dead and got away but didn't report the incidents due to the stigma of being gay he really should've been caught very early on,it was a plumber who finally did for him with body matter blocking pipes and drains.
Report kenny mann May 13, 2018 1:45 AM BST
Last year I was at my brother in laws funeral and at the reception a woman approached me, and said, you're kenny aren't you? We got chatting and she was the sister of my old mate who lived next to the BPanther. By quite a coincidence it turned out she goes walking with my neice,my brother in laws daughter, who had told her I'd be attending the funeral. I hadn;t seen her for 50 years.

We got chatting and she told me of the time her mum threw a bucket of water over BP. He had a habit of burning rubbish in his back garden every time she hung her washing out, resulting in the smoke spoiling the clean washing. This went on several times, and eventually she said if this happens again, I'll throw a bucket of water over the fire. Well he did and apparently the water went over him.
Report DenzilPenberthy May 13, 2018 1:54 AM BST
Interesting kenny it's possible that lighting fires was some sort of trait?
Did they ever mention him nicking anything as he did alot of burglaries in his younger days?
Report casemoney May 13, 2018 2:16 AM BST
Used to Boil heads in Pots Plain Would keep bodies for ages sitting on the Sofa in his front Room and have a Chat with them , a complete and utter psycho Sad
Report DenzilPenberthy May 13, 2018 2:25 AM BST
What's extremely common with serial killers is an underlying sexual illness (95%+ I think in US) there was a guy called Ed Kemper (The Co Ed Killer) who was particularly disturbing and it all came from childhood and his sexual realisation,a good documentary if you come across it.


http://allthatsinteresting.com/edmund-kemper
Report TheBaron May 13, 2018 10:15 AM BST
There is a good book "Killing for company" about Nilsen.  I read it because I lived just down the road from his flat in Willesden Green.  I think he'd might have moved the time I was there.
Report cardenden May 13, 2018 10:51 AM BST
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Report kenny mann May 13, 2018 10:55 AM BST
DenzilPenberthy
13 May 18 01:54
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Interesting kenny it's possible that lighting fires was some sort of trait?
Did they ever mention him nicking anything as he did alot of burglaries in his young


I have no recollection of the Black Panther at all, DP. It was only after his gruesome deeds came to light that people said to me, "you'll have known him, always stood on his own, never really spoke to anyone".

As I said I did know his wife and daughter well, as they shopped at an off license near me, as well as living next to my mate. Wife was extremely quiet, and the poor daughter was covered in spots. She'd have been maybe 14, about 12 years younger than me.
Report kenny mann May 13, 2018 10:57 AM BST
stood on his own in the Junction pub, that is, Leeds Road just outside Pudsey. Now demolished, which is a shame, as it was a terrific local.
Report kenny mann May 13, 2018 10:58 AM BST
This is the pub, happy days.

https://www.google.com/search?q=junction+pub+leeds+road+black+panther&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=e3SkTer57v_aPM%253A%252C6PSOwaFK7fIrjM%252C_&usg=__hKA9Gc1aBiDkwCQLA5lMMN9DhaA%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiexJWxtoLbAhVXF8AKHfM2BIUQ9QEITDAF#imgrc=e3SkTer57v_aPM:
Report themightymac May 16, 2018 11:54 PM BST
Did Sutcliffe not come from your neck of the woods Kenny?
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