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Jacob Rees-Mogg
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Ok. I will change the words:
Should a rape victim that gives birth to the baby be allowed to legally kill it? ^ The point is what are people objecting to? 1. Being against abortion in general, or 2. Being against abortion for rape victims. |
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Kill or execute. still the same question.
There is an argument that before it is born, particularly a long time before, it isn't alive There is an argument that before something draws breath it isn't alive. Try, Should a rape victim that gives birth to the baby be allowed to legally kill it? doesn't have the same impact, does it? Now I will not comment any further on this subject, unless that is, YOU have been a victim of rape and made pregnant. |
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That should have said;
Try, Should a rape victim that gives birth to the baby be allowed to legally abort it? |
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forget that, I'm missing the GIVES BIRTH bit.
Of course not. |
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What happens to the heart of a foetus during an abortion?
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When are babies that have been born ever killed?
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injera, I will not be drawn in.
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I did not bring the subject up.
My point is that some people think that a life starts at the point of conception. This means that whether the baby is terminated after 5 minutes or 1 year it makes no difference if you have that belief. |
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I'm not asking you now Study. You don't have to answer.
Does the heart of a foetus survive an abortion? What happens to the head, arms and legs of the foetus during an abortion? |
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It is a deeply personal decision for anyone in that situation.
JRM has repeatably said he would not try to push his views on anyone. |
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If you take the belief to its fullest, every time I have a wonk, I kill 250 million potential lives.
Every menstrual cycle, an egg, a potential life, is lost. So, perhaps a measure of personal feeling should come into it. I am certain, absolutely certain, that in nearly every case, having an abortion is a VERY difficult decision to make. JRM is a devout Catholic, he believes life starts at the moment of conception. (Though quite how anyone can tell exactly when that is, is a mystery). His investments (luck rich politician with money to invest), profited last year from the sale of abortion pills. Sums him up. |
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potential life is not the same thing as a life
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we don't know when life begins, that's why its best to be cautious
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best to let nature decide ?
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So that's 8 billion lives this week study? Conception must Shirley be not when the egg and seamen meet but as soon as the cell starts dividing.
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STUDYFORM 30 Apr 18 16:04 Joined: 26 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 18,431 | Blogger: STUDYFORM's blog If you take the belief to its fullest, every time I have a wonk, I kill 250 million potential lives. Every menstrual cycle, an egg, a potential life, is lost. So, perhaps a measure of personal feeling should come into it. ^ Er no. Did you do basic biology? Conception is when the two join. I am certain, absolutely certain, that in nearly every case, having an abortion is a VERY difficult decision to make. I agree. JRM is a devout Catholic, he believes life starts at the moment of conception. (Though quite how anyone can tell exactly when that is, is a mystery). The process of a male and a female sex cell joining and causing a baby to start to form. Not really that heard if you are willing to google it. His investments (luck rich politician with money to invest), profited last year from the sale of abortion pills. 1. He was not directly managing 2. The companies to hundreds of different products 3. The investments were sold 4. The meds are designed for treating ulcers. As I said earlier can someone who thinks drinking is bad invest in a company where some of the outlets sell beer? Or are those of Christian faiths held to a higher standard. |
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No I didn't 'do' basic biology, I'm just naturally brilliant.
It (the investments thing) was the first thing I saw when I checked out his stance on the matter. He is a throwback, to a not necessarily better age, imo. At least 8 billion. |
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it doesnt really matter if rees mogg was shamed into selling his shares
the point stands |
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if hes a rich politician with money to invest why crab £13 million of the state to do up his house ?
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Do you think it is ok for someone who is personally against drinking to buy shares in a leisure company where one of their hotels happens to serve beer?
None of the lefties are willing to answer this. |
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JRM must be really torn inside....even he would be dead against a catholic taking charge of Number 10
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why would they if they are so against drinking ?
seems a funny question but the fact you bothered to contrive it shows you can see what rees mogg has done |
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donny osmond
30 Apr 18 15:29 Joined: 02 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 75,551 | Blogger: donny osmond's blog he sells pills for them too ^ That is where the question came from. My first thought was I been into loads of newsagents run by people who are against drinking that sell alcohol. I dont have a problem with peoples' personal beliefs as long are they do not impose them on others. But this is further from that. JRM does not 'sell pills'. It is one of many investments in a firm he no longer runs. That is why I went further than just saying I think it is ok for someone who personally is against drinking to sell drink. |
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donny osmond
30 Apr 18 17:23 Joined: 02 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 75,552 | Blogger: donny osmond's blog why would they if they are so against drinking ? ^ Why not? In Dubai alcohol is sold. Non-Muslims can drink. |
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but rees mogg is trying to impose his abortion views on others as are two folk on this thread
totally different to those that dont drink selling alcohol, |
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"He sells pills for them"
The statement above is not only a lie, it is a despicable (and desperate) attempt to besmirch somebody else's reputation just to suit an agenda. Pathetic. |
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Where has he tried to impose his views on others?
He was asked about his personal views. Unlike most politicians he directly answered the question. |
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rees mogg said woman seeking an abortion after rape were commiting a second wrong
if that isnt trying to impose his views then hey ho |
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He is not imposing that on anyone.
He is giving a direct answer to a direct question expressing his personal opinion. Would you rather he lied as to what his personal opinion is? |
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Was that opinion in a private conversation or was it knowingly being covered by mass media, so obviously being made available to the general public?
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it was live on bbc radio
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The truth does not appear to matter much to the loony left, they would rather contrive a lie in order to take offence.
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Torq nails it.
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The leftists want politicians to lie about what they believe in? Or do they want them to just not answer the question like their idol did on GMTV this morning?
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Knowing they were highly controversial and offensive to many, Rees Mogg was asked to express his views on abortion (when it looked like he might be in the running for a ministerial position) in the hope of taking him down a peg or two.
Rather than dodge the question (like 95% of all other politicians) JRM gave a straight and honest answer. I don't share his views at all by the way, but desperately trying to contrive lies about the situation is pathetic - and oh so typical. |
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You'd think feminists would object to gender based abortion but no, not a whisper from them.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/8786542/Maternity-units-refuse-to-tell-parents-the-sex-of-unborn-babies.html ' Dr Shahab Qureshi, from the Muslim Doctors and Dentists Association, said he was "absolutely certain" that fears about selective abortion were one of the reasons hospitals refused to tell parents the sex of their unborn child. He said: "This is a major problem and hospitals need to be very careful. Is it ethically right to tell a parent the sex of their unborn child, if you think doing so is going to pose a risk to that baby?" Dr Qureshi said that among many communities in this country, including those from China, Africa, India and Eastern Europe, a higher status was attached to boys than girls, but said it was very difficult for medical professionals to determine if there was a risk of selective abortion, when very few of those seeking terminations would ever admit such a reason. ' No surprise that in Luton and Telford screening is not standard procedure.  |
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Rees -fogg and his wife have a fortune of 100 million , i think he is type of chap similar to Matthew Parris who famously said that life on the dole and the streets was no problem , think it was World in Action that filmed him doing a few weeks on the streets but he quit after a week nearly a broken man saying saying i cant cope , this is the kind of thing to expect from rich tory hardmen who when confronted by reality always run away crying back to their lovely idyllic existence
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Rees -fogg and his wife have a fortune of 100 million
Good luck to him, politics of envy anxious  |
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And yet another perfect example from Anxious.
Projecting somebody else's perceived weaknesses (Matthew Parris) onto Rees Mogg in a desperate contrivance to get offended. Who cares if JRM never said anything of the sort, eh? Pathetic. |
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Probably upset you anxious but the majority on here wouldn't mind being 50p behind Jeremy
 Up the workers comrade  |