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Homeless family lived in Bristol hotel for three years
Homeless family lived in Bristol hotel for three years
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I think we need to determine the situation with refunds etc. If a lodger then some landlords forego the final month's rent (I did with mine). If it's a whole home then I agree that is very unusual for deposits to be given prior to checking the property after the tenant leaves.
P.S I have scan-read this thread so may have a few crossed wires here |
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What saddo and I have clearly said is that there is need to pay a deposit BEFORE moving in to a new place.
And there is no return of deposit until moving OUT of the last place. IS THERE? This means that there is quite often a shortfall for the tenant between the 2 things happening. There is no misunderstanding, crippen. You're just being yourself. |
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Here it is again:
There's nothing to say they can't pay you before you vacate. You'll go a long way before you'll find one that would, but there's nothing to prevent it should they wish. If both parties sign the papers the deposit can be released back to the tenant at any time. |
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Oh FFS
Anything but concede the point, isn't it? Saddo, quite correctly, said that tenants need to have a deposit to move in to a property. That deposit is usually the amount held on the previous property. Commonly in the area of £1500-£2000 (6 weeks advance rent). Therefore they often (just about always) don't get the money they need to use as a deposit until AFTER they've moved, do they? Not "there's nothing to say they can't" bullplop - Do you allow the return of deposit before a property is vacated? I'll bet it virtually never happens. I'll also wager But you'll rather continue arguing and trying to twist words. There's nothing to say they can't pay you before you vacate. IS as saddo said, obfuscation. |
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*I'll also wager you won't allow a tenant without a deposit, or wait for them to get there previous deposit back first.
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So - just to ram the point home.
This: Dr Crippen • April 12, 2018 2:36 PM BST You never get it back before moving into another place, if at all. That's wrong about deposits saddo. STUDYFORM's first line is wrong as well. Both saddo and I were right. |
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They haven't been thinking for themselves, or maybe they have
£600 a week..where are all these poor people in Britain that study claims exist? I don't know |
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You never get it back before moving into another place, if at all.
That's not true, it's got nothing to do with moving into another property. It's all to do with moving out of the one you are leaving. What saddo should have written was; you never get it back before you vacate the property that the deposit is held against. |
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When dealing with rules and regulations you have to be precise.
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It can if the landlord agrees to it saddo.
If they don't ask they don't get. |
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Maybe some nasty landlord found loads of excuses to keep it and it was given before the Tenancy deposit scheme existed.
That's the line from STUDY I referred to that's obviously wrong. The family in question have only been homeless for three years. Their deposit would have been protected. |
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SF you need to calm down. Think of your blood pressure.
BTW not all tenants are perfect as I found to my cost. |
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Call me old fashioned but couldn't the fella get employment and provide for his family?
(terribly sexist I know...) |
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Working and White ? Looking for a council House
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take the can back to the offy akabula, they will change them
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Very good Donny.
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I'm just fed up with the semantics from crippen.
They may well have been homeless for 3 years, but they may have moved IN to their previous home before 2007. We don't know. So my point is valid. What saddo said and OBVIOUSLY meant and was correct about, was that people moving into a new house need to find the deposit. If they are moving FROM a house, the amount of money held is usually about the same, but they cannot get that money until way after they need it. It happens all the time. You know it does, you know what we both meant, and you chose to argue about semantics. |
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STUDYFORM, if we all commented on what we think people meant, instead of commenting on what they actually wrote, then we'd be in the same boat as you.
That means getting things wrong time after time and putting words into other people's mouths which you do all the time. |
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I seem to Remember The Likes of Choudary and that Bloke with Hook hands ,Their families lived in several Council houses ?
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Aye, well it's probably racist these days not to house and feed terrorist types.
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The tenant deposit legislation works specifically in favour of the tenant.
A tenant cannot break criminal law in any way with regard to deposits or the tenancy that they apply to. There's nothing in it at all for the landlord, except potential criminal prosecution for infringement of the petty rules and regulations. Even recouping losses from a deposit where a tenant has damaged property is a complicated process requiring legal involvement. A very lopsided situation indeed, yet tenants with ''the world owes me a living attitude'' living off the backs of others, will continue to shout that they are hard done by. When in reality, they simply don't know how lucky they are. |