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By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Apr 18 14:03
It said the family had found private lets but lost the properties because the council took too long to consider their requests help to pay the deposit.

What happened to the deposit they got back from the property they left?
By:
saddo
When: 12 Apr 18 14:23
It's ring fenced and you only get it back after inspections and possible deductions. You never get it back before moving into another place, if at all.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Apr 18 14:32
Maybe some nasty landlord found loads of excuses to keep it and it was given before the Tenancy deposit scheme existed.
Maybe they had no income for some reason and needed to eat
Maybe there was no deposit
Maybe they lost jobs or had an illness.

Let's not imagine that though, eh?
Let's just assume they wanted to ponce off the state.

It must be fantastic to be a family of 5 living in a hotel room.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Apr 18 14:36
You never get it back before moving into another place, if at all.

That's wrong about deposits saddo.

STUDYFORM's first line is wrong as well.
By:
saddo
When: 12 Apr 18 14:37
If they'd been Somalian they'd have got one quick regardless, very unfair these days.
By:
saddo
When: 12 Apr 18 14:39
You can't just say it's wrong Dr. I personally know people who have to move before getting it back. Are you saying everyone gets it back on the morning they move home?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Apr 18 14:44
They get it back once both parties have agreed the settlement - usually it takes a week or so AFTER leaving the property. Which is usually the day people move into another one.
For which deposits would need to be paid BEFORE moving in.

I moved house about a month ago - and had this very situation. Saddo is absolutely correct.
Although he isn't right about the special rules for Somalians.

The tenancy deposit scheme started in 2007.
It is possible that these people moved into their previous place before that.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Apr 18 14:46
Crippen, wrong (again) this time on the only subject you should know anything about!
This is where you don't return to the thread usually.

In fact if there is dispute between tenant and landlord upon exiting a property it can take months to get the money back.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Apr 18 14:50
You never get it back before moving into another place, if at all.

I even put it in bold so even people like SYUDYFORM couldn't get it wrong.

Yet he did.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Apr 18 14:53
The landlord you're leaving has no interest in whether you've moved into another property before he okays the deposit for release.
By:
casemoney
When: 12 Apr 18 14:54
Saddo  hits nail on the Head ,the Sir Name Burn was probably overlooked by officials .
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Apr 18 14:57
I should add to my last post; and neither does the deposit protection people where the deposit has been kept.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Apr 18 14:58
So you think the landlord ok's the deposit for release before a tenant vacates a property?
Not a chance.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Apr 18 15:01
No, that's a figment of your imagination STUDY.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Apr 18 15:01
most tenants move from one place to another on the same day - they need a deposit to move in before they actually move in.
That deposit is often about the same amount as that from the place they leave...

Are you saying, Crippen, that the landlord of the place to be vacated will agree with the holder of the deposit to release it, BEFORE they vacate?

Is that what you're saying?
By:
saddo
When: 12 Apr 18 15:02
I asked a similar question, no chance of getting it back in time to give it to new landlord.
By:
moisok
When: 12 Apr 18 15:03
wrong sort to get a place - only for the marauders from the continent allowed three bed houses
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Apr 18 15:04
That's correct saddo.

Unless you have a very obliging landlord.
There's nothing to say he can't pay you before you vacate.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Apr 18 15:06
Not pay you, should be, okay the release of funds from the deposit protection people.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Apr 18 15:07
In your world of the sleazy landlord, the people leaving a property don't matter - it doesn't occur to you that they move on the same day.
There is no way you won't hold the deposit back (whether you have it or not) before checking the property.
It just doesn't matter or occur to you that tenants might well be moving the same day.

There's nothing to say it, no. But it doesn't happen, does it?

Come on.... answer the q, crippen.
Are you saying, Crippen, that the landlord of the place to be vacated will agree with the holder of the deposit to release it, BEFORE they vacate?
Not, "are they allowed to" but "Do they?"
By:
saddo
When: 12 Apr 18 15:08
Obfuscation for the sake of it there Dr. The problem exists as described, pointless trying to mislead.
By:
moisok
When: 12 Apr 18 15:11
can't have this type of british getting housed ahead of more deserving jobseekers from outside
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Apr 18 15:12
you should not get the deposit until it has been ok by the landlord
whats the problem?
By:
moisok
When: 12 Apr 18 15:13
see how the council used successful tactics against this british family for three years

but now have been found out
By:
saddo
When: 12 Apr 18 15:13
Because the new landlord wants his deposit before you move in. A simple bridging loan system is required.
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Apr 18 15:14
ah ok moisok, perhaps it wasn't the landlords fault
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Apr 18 15:15
thanks saddo, not the landlords fault then
By:
saddo
When: 12 Apr 18 15:16
No one's fault, there is a gap. Most poor folk don't have a spare monkey-or more- laid around.
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Apr 18 15:16
there are no poor people in britain
By:
saddo
When: 12 Apr 18 15:17
There are millions who could't come up with a monkey tomorrow.
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Apr 18 15:18
that's true, that doesn't mean they are poor
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Apr 18 15:19
it simply means they have spent it
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Apr 18 15:24
9 grand in compensation
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Apr 18 15:29
having said that it is a terrible way for a family to live, perhaps a month or two should be enough time to sort out these things
By:
moisok
When: 12 Apr 18 16:19
Come across on the ferry and you won't have problems with housing
By:
casemoney
When: 12 Apr 18 16:22
Yes wrong Name on form , Name change to Abdul Burns ,Job done .
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Apr 18 16:36
Obfuscation for the sake of it there Dr. The problem exists as described, pointless trying to mislead.

What problem are you referring to saddo?

You get your deposit back at the end of your contract, and when the landlord has indicated to the deposit protection people that he is happy to let them go ahead and pay back the deposit.

What is there to misunderstand?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Apr 18 16:39
FFS!!!!!!!!
No answer by crippen. As always.

last try:

Are you saying, Crippen, that the landlord of the place to be vacated will agree with the holder of the deposit to release it, BEFORE they vacate?
Is that what you're saying?


lfc saying there are no poor people in Britain.


I was doing Statler and Waldorf a disservice comparing you two to them.
By:
saddo
When: 12 Apr 18 16:39
Your 14.03 post implied that the same money can be used for both deposits. It cannot, as you know. Pretending you don't understand the problem does not mean there is no problem.
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