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By:
lfc1971
When: 11 Apr 18 16:53
Its called anarchy
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Apr 18 17:19
That wasn't the question FACTs.

You've read that Khan predicts 4,000 fewer officers.

I asked how many had been cut.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Apr 18 17:22
If Khan wasn't so keen on turning London roads into bicycle tracks, he'd have more money to spend on the police force.
By:
saddo
When: 11 Apr 18 17:49
STUDYFORM    11 Apr 18 14:31

The gang stuff and "black on black" stuff mentioned earlier would have little to do with immigration would it?
Given that many gang members are 3rd or 4th generation - only going back in time could stop the perceived problem.



We also have second and third generation Muslims trying to kill us. Nothing to do with immigration? I'd say it shows us that some people will never integrate and that immigration has damaged the country.
By:
Injera
When: 11 Apr 18 17:51
The notion that more police = less crime is flawed.

The main reason crime doesn't occur is people choosing not to. People respect each other, our town, city and country.

I could go to the kitchen, take a knife and stab someone on the street and no amount of Plod would stop that.

Immigration is a key factor. I don't care if it's 2nd, 3rd or 4th generation immigrants. VERY few integrate. The ones that do leave behind former cultures. Retain the culture and they retain the problems asociated with that culture.

That's why I bang on about Jamaica's murder epidemic and Africa's poverty. Bring these people here and you bring poverty and murder.

Bring the Chinese here and you get great food and hard workers, but don't expect them to love cricket or scones.
By:
saddo
When: 11 Apr 18 17:56
Very well put Injera.
By:
moisok
When: 11 Apr 18 17:58
the authorities simply do not want to deal with it and lack the will/conviction to do anything - add that there are  too many votes for politicians to lose
By:
Roquebrune
When: 11 Apr 18 18:07
What's Jeremy's solution,anyone know?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 11 Apr 18 18:08
As New York proved you need get tough policies, if you dont start at low level crime then it will have a knock on affect. Our police dont even turn up for robberies, what signal does that send out ?
By:
akabula
When: 11 Apr 18 19:08
Murder fee zone up here and can't remember the last crime committed in my village.
We have very few immigrants up the West Coast. Not sure if that's a factor. Cool
By:
lfc1971
When: 11 Apr 18 19:22
Heres another beaut from Studyform :
many have been here 3 or 4 generations so its got nothing to do with immigration Laugh

heaven help us
By:
akabula
When: 11 Apr 18 19:24
Laugh
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Apr 18 19:30
STUDY does post some amusing stuff if you take the trouble to read.
Dead serious as well.
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Apr 18 19:36
murder rate in london was higher in 1990 than it is today

quite a spike this year, so far, ...tit for tat gang related?

out of hand,

a new sheriff needed ....
By:
lfc1971
When: 11 Apr 18 19:38
who was doing the murders back then?
maybe they've been released already
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Apr 18 19:39
as for intergrating into london..

gang violence proves they are intergrating,

you just need watch eastenders to know its all that happens in landen
By:
lfc1971
When: 11 Apr 18 19:42
quite right its always been that way, although its much worse now
And no longer is capable of producing anything good like the rolling stones
terrible place
By:
moisok
When: 11 Apr 18 19:42
disgraceful spiv propaganda

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/revealed-sadiq-khan-took-donations-from-property-firm-which-put-tenants-lives-at-risk-a3219961.html
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Apr 18 19:47
new gangs had to up their game to displace old gangs

too much competition, too many riches to be had dealing drugs and the like

prohibition isnt working
By:
lfc1971
When: 11 Apr 18 19:51
Too dangerous to decriminalise drugs, already too many cases` of mental health issues
Tougher sentences required
By:
lfc1971
When: 11 Apr 18 19:53
combine drugs with the  mental health of people in London and that's a recipe for disaster
By:
lfc1971
When: 11 Apr 18 20:00
Its advantageous to a criminal to say he has a drug dependency,
they all are told to say it, softer sentences
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Apr 18 20:00
there are imigrants elsewhere in the uk, but not the same murder rate
at the moment, as in london

making drugs illegal fuels crime, education and control as with more harmful cigarettes and alcohol
is surely the way forward
By:
lfc1971
When: 11 Apr 18 20:05
cigarettes and alcohol do more good than harm for the mind, well at least if the person is relatively sane
drugs can destroy a sane mind and every other type of mind as well, its a very different thing
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