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Gin
06 Apr 18 11:52
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You would have to be mad to have one of these "Alexa" type of things in your house:

Amazon patent reveals 'voice sniffer algorithm' that could analyze conversations


Amazon's Echo smart speaker starts up after a user calls for Alexa, the artificial intelligence that powers the device, but a recent patent suggests that the next step for the device may be listening in on any conversation -- not just after the "Alexa" command is said by its user.

An algorithm proposed in a pending patent filed by the e-commerce giant in 2017 shows advanced artificial intelligence that would allow an Amazon device to listen to a conversation and analyze it for certain words that are said.

A "voice sniffer algorithm" is what the patent calls the technology.

"The more words they collect, the more the company gets to know you," Daniel Burrus, a tech analyst with Burrus Research Associates, Inc., told ABC News. "They are building a personality profile on the user."

The algorithm uses positive trigger words like, "prefer" and "bought" or negative trigger words such as, "hate" or "disliked," and then the device can "capture adjacent audio that can be analyzed" for keywords, gauging interest levels in various products.
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Report Gin April 6, 2018 11:53 AM BST
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/amazon-patent-reveals-voice-sniffer-algorithm...
Report Johnny_Mustang April 6, 2018 11:57 AM BST
Well if they start picking up on voiced preferences I'm probably due a large shipment of gimp masks from them any day soon.
Report Platini April 6, 2018 12:01 PM BST
as with all these voce-related technologies

it won't work in Scotland Laugh
Report terry mccann April 6, 2018 12:03 PM BST
in China if you don't tow the line of if they don't like what you say your home energy is cut off.
Report dustybin April 6, 2018 12:31 PM BST
Somebody still has to explain to me how something can trigger to start listening if its not already listening?

Its completely illogical.
What does it do, break the space-time continuum?
If it could then wtf are they using it to try and make a few pennies on restocking bog roll for?

The reality is that these companies need to explain what is dont with the sound data is listens too that isnt the 'alexa' that its waiting for.
Report dustybin April 6, 2018 12:33 PM BST
*what its doing with the sound data it listens to
Report Gin April 6, 2018 12:39 PM BST
As I understand it, the device is always listening but only acts on certain trigger words.
Report Gin April 6, 2018 12:42 PM BST
A bit like a video camera that you can set to constantly record and then keeps the previous 5 seconds when you hit the start button.
Report dustybin April 6, 2018 12:44 PM BST
Thats what the company says so as not to be perceived to be listening to everything.

I bought a Note 8 a while ago, the amount of times it tells you that either the TCs have been updated and need agreeing to or that a certain function wont work until you allow it to gain access to everything I have lost count of.

People are just blindly walking into a viper's den giving away access to everything on the promise of some sort of convenience.
Report dustybin April 6, 2018 12:46 PM BST
That is the question Gin,

What do they actually do with the pre 'alexa' data, when data itself has a value?
Who regulates this?
Report dustybin April 6, 2018 12:50 PM BST
Recent GDPR changes mean a user can demand to know what data a company holds on a person much more easily.
But only for European companies.
Amazon an American company.
Report Just Checking April 6, 2018 1:35 PM BST
We'll know if this has been activated when we start seeing adverts for p1ss stained toilet seats on the amazon market place appearing in the side bar when you're reading the Daily Planet online.
Report Just Checking April 6, 2018 1:37 PM BST
Kind of mad they are trying to patent this, they obviously already listen for key words to activate these damn things, all they are doing is extending it to more key words then uploading the sentences they are in. Which is a massive invasion of privacy but hardly groundbreaking.

Some more recent cameras can do things like constantly record what it sees and when you take a photo show you photos it took BEFORE you pressed the button in case you slightly missed the thing you wanted to take a photo of so you can "go back in time". That's more clever and useful.
Report dustybin April 6, 2018 3:54 PM BST
Listening into people's lives in their front rooms are goldmines for research analysis.
Especially when people arnt effected with the effect of asking questions have on their answers.

I dont know what they do with the data, but who really thinks they just dispose of it?
The number of third parties who would pay for it only ever grows.
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