ENOCH

When Powell made his speech integration of immigrants was manageable.
He warned of the dangers of mass immigration. He was right but we never listened and are now paying the price.

That's funny Donny, so is everyone else.

Donny it's your lack of understanding that is the problem.
Calling for a ban on immigration is way way different from calling for a control on it.
Very easy for people like you to shout racist but nobody who can think for themselves will agree with you.

Immigration has ruined the UK for the working classes.
It's about time they woke up and realised who their real enemies are.
I refer to the Labour party.

akabula

do you agree with powell that people should be treated differently
because of the colour of their skin?

akabula

i understand powell

you clearly do not and pick up on immagration, which misses his entire rant

but of course powell was banking on folk like that, which is
why he played the immigration card

I was responding to his view of mass immigration.
He was right.

lol, so you disagree with his racist policies ?

You're putting your interpretation of what he said and using emotive language to suit your agenda.

thats what powell was doing, playing the immigration card in an attempt
to stop parliament passing the race relations act

pleasingly he lost

What racist policies did Powell propose Donny?

Tell us what he said that you find repugnant.
Quote him verbatim please.

not passing the race relations act, which would have allowed the sub human
treatment of folk based on race or skin colour

He opposed the race relations act because he thought it wasn't necessary.

And would give an advantage to none whites which in itself is racist.

i dont need to educate you any further akabula

google is your mate here

So Donny do you agree with giving an advantage in law to non-whites?
If you do then you are a racist.

are you a racist crippen?

Obviously Donny does think that non-whites should have an advantage over whites.

So he's a racist and he doesn't even know it.

ah you answer the question you ask me, on my behalf, having
mis stated the race relations act to form a question

lol

typical

No I'm not racist in thought or deed Donny.
But I do take steps to avoid getting involved in these matters,

You're obviously racist them Donny by your fear of the question.

i have no fear of your pretendy questions just treat them with contempt

next step would be you asking me to post a video of me swearing on the bible
or else you wouldnt believe me

then another hoop

but pleased you stated your steps to avoid these matters

Peal off the top layer of someone who bandies the word racist around and you'll usually  find a racist.

That's Donny exposed for all the world to see.

layers, eh, lol

in a free society the race relations act should apply to those who agree with it and should not apply to those who don't
its a personal choice

The act is racist in itself.
That's why Powell opposed it

Powell loved Indian people in particular, he even learned their language.

Why should Donny think he has the right to decide these matters, of course it is right that he should follow his own views on the matter, quite rightly
But of course another person might have differing views, that's fine it has nothing to do with him

not passing the race relations act, which would have allowed the sub human
treatment of folk based on race or skin colour

Again only your warped thoughts on the reasoning behind his opposition to the act.

They're so quick to see the speck in someone else's eye.
When they fail to see the plank in their own.

you admit to a speck ?

Ok if it is a government body that is one thing, but if it is an individual that is another

Now the question remains, what was the nature of the discrimination, what examples do we have

I would not be surprised to find that there was zero, or close to zero discrimination in Britain

You admit to a plank?

Donny still not managed to post anything racist that EP said.
Admit it Donny, you've misrepresented what he actually said.

Now if there was a problem with racial discrimination , were are the incidences, just a few example out of hundreds or thousands, name them or list a few from the last decades

he wasn't right. he was completely wrong.

Name the people responsible, name the companies responsible, name the industries and schools and universities and civil service and health service etc responsible

Evidence please

lol akabula

g o o g l e

racial discrimination of course is a bad thing, I have never seen a single example of it in Britain
has anyone else, of course some people like to think of others as racist
without any evidence

I've read the speech in it's entirety and the words you are using are nowhere to be seen.
As Hilary once said 'a case of misspeaking'.

Donny caught 'misspeaking' what a surprise.

I have lfc, as a child helping on a milkround, with the staff of London Transport blatantly discriminating against their black co-workers and the government run company turning a blind eye to it. If you want details I'll be glad to give them. Back in the 70's it was rife.

Nearly all the juicy bits n the speech consisted of Enoch quoting a voter.

But at least Donny you have conceded the main point of his speech about the dangers of mass immigration.

For the record I do support what EP was trying to achieve

Haven't white workers from Europe been discriminated against in recent years Aspro?

Why should black people have the law changed to give them an advantage while white people continue to be exploited?

well I never said it never happened anywhere aspro
however what happened, exactly

^^The race relations act is racist.

Now we know where Corbyn got the idea from when he quotes voters at PMs questions.

We were all created equal there should be one law to cover us all.

We used to stop half way through the milkround for a cuppa at London Transport's café at their bus depot. Not for outsiders but being their milkman it was not an issue.

On the wall were many posters for staff to enter snooker tournaments, dart tournaments and the like. Every single poster, underlined in thick capitals at the bottom, were the words "No ***'s allowed. I think you know what the *'s are.

probably some workers wanting all the overtime..

no but that's interesting aspro, what was going on

I don't get the question?

That still goes on today Aspro.

The Black Police Officers Federation

How many white police officers are there in that organisation?

I've rarely witnessed it Aspro. Can think of only 2 occasions.
I have heard plenty in the pub but only between mates and not directed at anyone who was present.
Not my mates I hasten to add.

aspro that's not nice, but sorry that's a matter of personal choice

See what I mean about racist laws only working one way?

It happens, always has and always will... you just get on with it. Most black friends of mine don't give a toss; in fact, they actually ask me to tell them racist jokes!!!

if you had said they were being denied overtime or promotion or employment fair enough that is different
Any examples ?

I have many friends that can be considered right wing and I have many black friends too. If we have to mix, and we do, then make the best of it I say. Life's to short to live it in anger.

This is what I am trying to say
There has been no racial discrimination in Britain , or perhaps some positive discrimination
its not all bad, certainly not. I would say on balance it is better for non british immigrants

As I said lfc, back in the 70's it was rife but not today

Asian man on LBC this morning saying he felt he had a definite advantage over white people when it comes to the law.
Unfortunately he wasn't allowed to say much more, Ferrari cut him off.

there is nothing wrong with it being rife, that's entirely a matter for individuals
Where they asked did they agree with millions of immigrants coming into Britain?

no, well don't presume on their good manners

there is nothing wrong with it being rife, that's entirely a matter for individuals
Where they asked did they agree with millions of immigrants coming into Britain?

no, well don't presume on their good manners

I bet there's been more posts flagged on this thread than the rest of the threads on chit chat today put together eh Donny and co?

Donny will be wishing he had read the speech before commenting on it.

It really does take a colossal check to have millions of new people fro every corner of the world come to Britain and then expect that people should say
oh fine isn't it wonderful..well sorry it isnt

* colossal cheek

The speech wasn't racist at all; controversial (but he knew that anyway) but certainly not racist

reporting posts crippen

you are the specialist there, having bragged about spending hours getting posts removed

strange of you to try to bring it up being a self confessed g r a s s

Yes and as soon as they arrive here start lobbying Parliament to get the laws changed to their advantage.

Look at Donny telling lies.

I always said he were a bad lot.

I used to do a fair bit of interviewing.
Some people who didn't get a job offer would phone the office and ask why.
I would speak to them and tell them why.
However if their name identified them as of a different race my boss would question me first.

8 million extra does not put any pressure on Infrastructure.

Donny why do you feel the need to bang derogatory labels on people?

For bang read hang. Was cleaning my gun as I posted.

if you have a card you have to play it at some time I guess

me aka, it was a riposte, why did he feel need to attack me

why did you question me not him

rhetorical questions of course...

Gertcha

People like Donny are very quick to call Enoch and others racist without thinking

It someone owns a business it is their right to employ whoever they want.
they may wish to employ someone who is British in preference to someone foreign
That is good, imo, you might disagree , thats fine

You can employ however you want and live your life in whichever way you want ,  don't think you have the right to force by legislation your own views on someone else, your views may be wrong

That is what Powell and others understand, and what people like donny do not

Two women shouted at the 24-year-old when she was on a Central line train on the London Underground on 7 April, police said.
The victim was pulled around by her hair, which resulted in injuries to her scalp and cuts to her face.
British Transport Police said the women were black and had braided hair.
They are believed to be in their late 20s and one was wearing a brown jacket, while the other was wearing a black jacket.
A police spokesperson said the women shouted at the victim, "saying she should be talking English when in England".
The train was travelling from Liverpool Street to Stratford when the assault happened at about 03:45 BST.

you miss the point case

black live matter

I rest my case

always with the latest news and ahead of the rest of you

I am as always, your favourite cult

FROM MO TOWERS

I'll give this thread about five minutes


Just goes to show what I know

case you are wrong 

- a dear friend of mine (black) certainly doesn't look upon me as scum

he just thinks I am a cult

Your sure he said cult moisok?

I am almost certain that was what he shouted to me in the street.

But then I am noted as becoming a cult on here too.

I have many followers.

no such thing as racism...

A more balanced piece on Enoch Powell, imo, even if the author has managed to get his age wrong.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/history/946371/enoch-powell-
speech-rivers-of-blood-immigration-brexit

And on the question of whether he was a racist, well he answered it himself when asked directly by David Frost. His reply was:

It depends on how you define the word "racialist." If you mean being conscious of the differences between men and nations, and from that, races, then we are all racialists. However, if you mean a man who despises a human being because he belongs to another race, or a man who believes that one race is inherently superior to another, then the answer is emphatically "No."

The media didn't listen as far as the last part George. Heath relished the opportunity to smear a man brighter than himself.

I well remember the furore over the river of blood speech.Enoch was far too intelligent to be labeled a racist;he was a  patriot.

But that's the point right there: patriotism = racism (in the minds of globalists).

I recall a UKIP spokesman talking to the BBC sometime ago. He spoke about protecting jobs and housing for 'our people'. The BBC interviewer was disdainful of the use of the word 'our'.

patritism isnt racism

wanting to discriminate by skin colour like powell wanted is racism

not necessarily, someone might want not to employ someone of a different colour or race or religion because its too risky or too much trouble

that's common sense depending on the circumstances and an individual preference, not racism

as soon as you make it a criminal offence not to discriminate that makes it a problem not to discriminate right there

now someone may not want to take the chance of being accused of racism, as we can see on this thread alone that is a very real risk in modern Britain, well you cant trust people not to
who could deny that