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By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 16:39
enoch didnt care about immigration, his party allowed it

his concern was treating immigrants as second or third class citizens
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 16:40
quite simple lfc

he opposed the race relations act that banned racism
By:
Injera
When: 13 Apr 18 16:49
donny - do you think all races and cultures are equally beneficial to the UK? Are there any you would prefer not to settle here?
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Apr 18 16:49
That was not because he was racist, it was because he was opposed to immigration and perhaps was a believer in segration between races and cultures

he was however completely opposed to discrimination in any form, as far as I know
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Apr 18 16:50
you see you cant separate culture from race, that is what powell understood
that is why he was not a racist
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Apr 18 16:51
Powell wanted to preserve the unique British culture, that means preserving the racial makeup of Britain and its culture , that is not racist
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Apr 18 16:52
actually its quite the opposite
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 16:56
non that is untrue lfc

he was health minister at time health service was importing labour from overseas

he just wanted the right to treat immigrants in a sub human manner
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Apr 18 17:00
any examples of how immigrants were treated badly, by powell or anyone else?
By:
saddo
When: 13 Apr 18 17:00
Injera    13 Apr 18 16:49 
donny - do you think all races and cultures are equally beneficial to the UK? Are there any you would prefer not to settle here?
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Apr 18 17:01
any examples?
By:
casemoney
When: 13 Apr 18 17:01
There are quite a few that were let in that think its Right to treat Young white girls as sub human Donny ,Who is worse ,them or Powell ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Apr 18 17:02
I know we can dismiss the ludicrous assertion that Powell wanted to treat anyone as less than human
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Apr 18 17:10
now unless Donny can give examples of racism by Powell or anyone else in Britain I suggest he pipes down
By:
lfc1971
When: 13 Apr 18 17:11
lets see..
By:
dambuster
When: 13 Apr 18 17:15
Enoch Powell was right, everyone knows it, apart from your usual holocaust denier types.
But no politician apart from Farage would agree with it, as it may upset some individuals, even though it is the truth.
By:
moisok
When: 13 Apr 18 17:22
donny osmond    13 Apr 18 14:13 
i dont use the word racist to stop debate, i apply it to a racist.

his speech was politics to drum up support for his opposition to race relations act

that wasnt about immigtation, it was about treating folk in a vile and inhumane manner


FROM ME

The bit I like from porky is  about treating folk in a vile and inhumane manner

When you think of the cultures that have been brought to our shores!!!   I rest my case
By:
Injera
When: 13 Apr 18 17:29
I'm going to West Ham Monday night. At Stratford station there will be coppers with machine guns. At the stadium we will get searched as per every home game.

I wonder why..

At Lord's you get searched for weapons/bombs.

I wonder why...

All across the UK, we see 'diversity barriers' and 'Merkel's Lego' in our cities, outside our Cathedrals and in our shopping centres.

I wonder why..
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 18:48
moisok

we should treat people in a decent manner, if they behave poorly
they should be sent home if they are are just working here. if they
are citizens then the law can deal with them.

we should not, in 1960s and 1970 have brought folk into our country to see
the likes of racists like powell treat them in a sub human manner

you can debate today, but it is nothing to do with racists like powell back then

i

injera

i saw fences around football pitches and was searched before i entered grounds.

i think it was called the english disease.

i was evacuated from work many times in 70s and 80s for bomb scares and
saw armed police at airports, ...religion played a part no doubt....
By:
akabula
When: 13 Apr 18 18:53
Enoch Powell was spot on.
Look around you today and you see he was right.
Loads who disagreed with him at the time have now come round to his thinking.
We now have ghettoes and no-go areas.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Apr 18 18:56
Can't beat a bit of racism to stimulate a debate.

Whose side are you on Donny?
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 18:59
the non racists
By:
akabula
When: 13 Apr 18 19:00
When Powell made his speech integration of immigrants was manageable.
He warned of the dangers of mass immigration. He was right but we never listened and are now paying the price.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Apr 18 19:04
That's funny Donny, so is everyone else.
By:
akabula
When: 13 Apr 18 19:04
Donny it's your lack of understanding that is the problem.
Calling for a ban on immigration is way way different from calling for a control on it.
Very easy for people like you to shout racist but nobody who can think for themselves will agree with you.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Apr 18 19:06
Immigration has ruined the UK for the working classes.
It's about time they woke up and realised who their real enemies are.
I refer to the Labour party.
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 19:11
akabula

do you agree with powell that people should be treated differently
because of the colour of their skin?
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 19:12
akabula

i understand powell

you clearly do not and pick up on immagration, which misses his entire rant
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 19:16
but of course powell was banking on folk like that, which is
why he played the immigration card
By:
akabula
When: 13 Apr 18 19:25
I was responding to his view of mass immigration.
He was right.
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 19:32
lol, so you disagree with his racist policies ?
By:
akabula
When: 13 Apr 18 19:33
You're putting your interpretation of what he said and using emotive language to suit your agenda.
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 19:34
thats what powell was doing, playing the immigration card in an attempt
to stop parliament passing the race relations act

pleasingly he lost
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Apr 18 19:34
What racist policies did Powell propose Donny?
By:
akabula
When: 13 Apr 18 19:35
Tell us what he said that you find repugnant.
Quote him verbatim please.
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 19:36
not passing the race relations act, which would have allowed the sub human
treatment of folk based on race or skin colour
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Apr 18 19:36
He opposed the race relations act because he thought it wasn't necessary.

And would give an advantage to none whites which in itself is racist.
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 19:37
i dont need to educate you any further akabula

google is your mate here
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 13 Apr 18 19:37
So Donny do you agree with giving an advantage in law to non-whites?
If you do then you are a racist.
By:
donny osmond
When: 13 Apr 18 19:38
are you a racist crippen?
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