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A borders councillor quipped after learning that SNP transport minister Humza Yousaf had visited the are "Nobody seen him as he was hiding under his Burka".
The councillor has been suspended by his party (Labour) but Humza wants him sacked and has contacted the police to see if a hate crime has been committed.

Seems to me a million miles away from a hate crime.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43418844

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By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 14:52
yes it is a hate crime

they hate him  (the councillor) ho ho

another result for the baying mob syndicate

are they baying about Telford - they have a nice shopping centre there
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 17 Mar 18 14:53
That is him out of a job.
By:
saddo
When: 17 Mar 18 14:53
Like many other hackneyed words, 'hate' will mean nothing in a year or two, due to misuse like this.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 14:56
why is it you can make a joke out of the c of e , and woody allen can do stand up jokes how his people??  Very funny he was too.
Likewise the N word stuff and richard prior, eddy murphy  equally funny

but we know why
By:
akabula
When: 17 Mar 18 17:03
Check him out on twitter. Comedy gold.
Wish he was animated in his job.
By:
Just Checking
When: 17 Mar 18 17:45
He's been on question time, HUGE chip on his shoulder and attempting to play the victim card, awful personality.
Not surprised he's acted like that at all, running to teacher to get someone in trouble.
By:
Sica Dan
When: 17 Mar 18 19:24
2 years ago Humza was caught driving a car without insurance, an honest mistake  he claimed and of course there was a hint
that the Polis only stopped him because of his colour.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 17 Mar 18 19:37
Aye it was a green motor.
By:
mad mad moon
When: 17 Mar 18 19:49
Men in politics should learn that they must write down what they are going to say, analyse
it to the nth degree, and only say/write it if it is dull and moribund.
And jokes are a definite no no.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Mar 18 20:01
With a new precedent  being set  regularly on what is regarded a hate crime, any criticism of anyone or anything will fall into this category soon.

Why doesn't calling someone a racist be regarded as a hate crime when it's malicious and intended to cause offense?

It's only a matter of time before it does the way we're going.

And have certain people got a shock coming when happens and backfires on them.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Mar 18 20:04
Whether its true or not doesn't matter, if it causes offence it's out.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 17 Mar 18 20:09
Like when someone posts true reports of beheadings etc. the posters are to blame not the group committing the acts Crazy
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Mar 18 20:11
That's true Denzil, they shoot the messenger.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Mar 18 20:13
offence rather.
I slipped into American English.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 17 Mar 18 20:16
Scottish green party conference today was well unattended 6 attendees two dogs .
By:
moisok
When: 17 Mar 18 20:42
ANNOY   is actually in the wording  - so you only have to annoy someone to be reported
By:
Injera
When: 17 Mar 18 20:42
'hiding under his burka'. - That's a hat crime.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Mar 18 20:53
Anything in what you say, that can be connected to their race or religion in a negative way.

Excluding stuff said about Christianity and white people.
By:
Just Checking
When: 17 Mar 18 22:01
In pakistan you can get the death sentence for saying things they don't like about a religion. I'm sure some people in the UK would like us to be the same...

It's like the victories won inth ebattle we had to be allowed to say things Christianity didn't like is now being thrown away when another religion is concerned.

Imagine Monty Python (referenced today in another story) trying to make the likes of "The life of Achmed" now, parodying another religion?
They'd be in court and you can just imagine the Guardian/BBC picking a side! We're taking huge steps back.
By:
casemoney
When: 17 Mar 18 22:04
The Doc Spot on
By:
flushgordon1
When: 17 Mar 18 22:05
He's not Mohammed he's a very naughty 30 year old.
By:
fool proof
When: 18 Mar 18 15:41
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43448155

Transport Minister Humza Yousaf and Labour MSP Anas Sarwar have told BBC Scotland that racism and Islamophobia are getting worse in Scotland.

Appearing together on the BBC's Sunday Politics Scotland, they both said they frequently received violent death threats via social media and in emails.

The MSPs said members of the Muslim community and other faiths had reported increasing levels of abuse.

This included on the street and while engaged in work.

Some of the abuse Mr Yousaf and Mr Sarwar have encountered was highlighted recently.

Earlier this week, a Dumfries and Galloway Labour councillor who admitted making an Islamophobic comment about Mr Yousaf was suspended by his party.

Jim Dempster told transport officials at a meeting that "no-one would have seen [Mr Yousaf] under his burka".

In January, another Labour councillor was suspended following allegations of racist remarks about Mr Sarwar.

Richard Leonard, the leader of Scottish Labour, has pledged to take action to drive racism out of the party.

'Undercover mission'
Mr Yousaf said the "vile abuse" targeted at him was on a weekly and, at times more frequent, basis.

The minister, who encountered racial abuse growing up, said what shocked him now was the level of violence in the messages sent to him.

He said: "People will constantly refer to taking a bullet to me.

"I think 99% of them are probably mouth and no trousers, but that being said if the 1% take up that threat it is very, very serious indeed."


Mr Yousaf added: "What is worrying is that young people are seeing this face to face now.

"We are are hearing more Islamophobic and racist remarks right to our faces, and people are feeling emboldened post-Brexit and because of other factors too."

Mr Sarwar said he had received threats on social media, in emails and in message left on his office phone. They included threats to burn down his offices.

Other abuse included questions about his loyalties to Scotland and the UK and that he was part of an "undercover mission to impose Sharia law".

He said that while he and Mr Yousaf were "blessed in a way" of having a platform to highlight and challenge the abuse, the majority of people who were targeted in the same way were too frightened to their experiences in public.

Mr Sarwar said: "In wider society, it is the 'dinosaurs' who will say stupid things and crass, offensive things, but we shouldn't pretend it will be phased out with age and time."

He said not just Muslims, but people of other faiths, including Sikhs, were encountering the same types of abuse.

Mr Yousaf added that unlike previous generations who felt they had suffer their abuse in silence, people today were prepared to bring it out in the open in an effort to tackle it.

Vile abuse really, Rotherham,Telford and many other towns across the country is where the real vile abuse is happening and it is extreme rascism.
By:
moisok
When: 18 Mar 18 16:24
It is as if he wants to start an internecine  war with the other faiths - do they have form for this elsewhere.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Mar 18 16:48
They've called so many people racists that they've worn the word out.

They be complaining that somebody gave them a racist look next.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Mar 18 16:52
What they're trying to do is get everybody afraid to criticise them on account of they'll be called racists.

That's always been the plan, and taking the child grooming disgrace as an example, it works as well.
By:
Platini
When: 18 Mar 18 17:48
the globalists have played a blinder with project racism. Its now firmly at the top of the tree of all issues in life, ahead of any other concerns people have in their life including their own security, physical safety and that of their own children. Sad
By:
fool proof
When: 22 Mar 18 10:14
Humza gunning for this guy with 2
allegations from the 80s the accusers wish to remain anonymous,You really could not make this up mabye Mr Yousaf thinks he is still at school and not a minister in the Government running a country.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43491894

Scottish Labour is investigating further allegations of racist behaviour against a councillor.

Jim Dempster was suspended by the party last week after admitting making an Islamaphobic remark about Transport Minister Humza Yousaf.

Mr Yousaf has now passed on allegations from two other people who have accused Mr Dempster of "disturbing racial abuse" towards them.

Mr Dempster said the allegations were totally untrue and had no substance.

His accusers wish to remain anonymous, but the allegations they have made cover the late 1980s and early 1990s when both were children and Mr Dempster owned a shop in the village of Sanquhar.

One of them told BBC Scotland that Mr Dempster would pick on him whenever he went into the shop, and regularly called him names.

Islamophobic comment row rekindled
Councillor suspended over burka slur
The other accuser made a number of claims including that Mr Dempster "chased me around his shop with an air freshener saying I smelled of curry".

Mr Yousaf said the claims were "extremely concerning", and repeated his call for Mr Dempster to be expelled from Labour and to stand down as a Dumfries and Galloway councillor.

He added: "I would urge all victims of hatred to come forward and have their voices heard and their stories told."

It emerged last week that Mr Dempster told transport officials at a meeting that "no-one would have seen [Mr Yousaf] under his burka".

The councillor later apologised to Mr Yousaf, saying he was ashamed and embarrassed and could offer no defence or explanation.

He also insisted that the "stupid and ill-judged remark is not representative of who I am".

On Tuesday, Mr Dempster had issued a joint statement with the imam of the Dumfries Islamic Centre in which he was described as a "good man".
By:
trilby22
When: 22 Mar 18 10:30
I had to turn the radio off when I heard this on Radio Scotland earlier this morning.  Otherwise I would have put it out the window Angry
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 22 Mar 18 11:36
Transparency International has a Corruption Index with 176 countries listed.  Of the 47 Muslim countries in the world only 2 make it into the 50 least corrupt nations. 6 of them make into the 8 most corrupt.

Meanwhile the Christian charity Open Doors found the global level of Christian persecution has risen for the fourth year in a row, with Asian countries showing a particularly rapid rise.

The study found Islamic extremism was responsible for increased hostility in 14 of the top 20 counties on its list.

The reality is far removed from the rhetoric that white people or atheists or Christians are the most racist ethnic or religious sect, actually they are the least.
By:
cooperman
When: 22 Mar 18 11:39
"chased me round his shop with an air freshener, saying I smelled of curry"
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 22 Mar 18 11:39
Replace actually with in my opinion.
By:
broadsword
When: 22 Mar 18 15:51
POLICE SCOTLAND:   "its a crime to pick on someone because of who they are attracted to, gender they identify with , their disability, their race, their religion or BELIEF "
By:
Injera
When: 22 Mar 18 16:19
Levels of persecution for Christians taken from the Open Doors kist. Highest first:

1.North Korea
2.Afghanistan
3.Somalia
4.Sudan
5.Pakistan
6.Eritreas
7.Libya
8.Iraq
9.Yemen
10.Iran
11.India
12.Saudi Arabia

50. Djibouti

You get the drift...
By:
ufcdan
When: 22 Mar 18 17:25
Christians will always be fair game especially in this country Sad
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 22 Mar 18 22:12
"its a crime to pick on someone because of who they are attracted to, gender they identify with , their disability, their race, their religion or BELIEF "

It is forbidden for Muslim women to marry outside their religion.  That makes all Muslims criminals under the above law.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 22 Mar 18 22:16
It definitely makes them racist.  For me the acid test of whether someone is racist or not is how they would react if their son or daughter got married to someone from a different race or religion.
By:
Platini
When: 23 Mar 18 22:42
POLICE SCOTLAND:   "its a crime to pick on someone because of who they are attracted to, gender they identify with , their disability, their race, their religion or BELIEF "

unless that someone is white, male, and Christian. Isn't that right, Plod ?  LaughLaughLaugh
By:
akabula
When: 23 Mar 18 22:55
Seemingly the councillor who made the comment that angered Humza is a shopkeeper and 2 people have come forward to say he made anti-islam comments to them, one in the 80s and one in the 90s. Laugh
He bought the shop in 1991 so at least one of them is lying. My gues is both.
By:
Just Checking
When: 24 Mar 18 11:58
"their religion or BELIEF"
But what if their belief is in the glory of th 3rd reich or that babies should be killed in a ceremony to honour the sun god Ra?

Combing both would be an in interesting combination. Don't be Transnazegypt-aphobic, haters!
Watching the Waffen SS march in the style of the Bangles "walk like an egyptian" would make being invaded a pleasure.
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