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The leader and deputy leader of far-right group Britain First have been found guilty of religiously-aggravated harassment.
Paul Golding, 36, and Jayda Fransen, 32, were arrested over the distribution of leaflets and posting of online videos during a gang-rape trial.
Fransen was convicted of three counts of religiously aggravated harassment. Golding was found guilty of one charge.
Both were jailed at Folkestone Magistrates' Court.
Fransen was handed a 36-week sentence and Golding 18 weeks.


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Report moisok March 7, 2018 7:10 PM GMT
has he annoyed you? - if he has - do your duty as a citizen - citizen!!!  It is going to be like 1789 all over again.  With a strong mix of 1984 to be added.
Report DenzilPenberthy March 7, 2018 7:17 PM GMT
Laugh
Report DenzilPenberthy March 7, 2018 7:21 PM GMT
I think on those terms it's more likely that I'll get reported at some stage Laugh
Report moisok March 7, 2018 7:26 PM GMT
wait for the knock on the door

In other news from your favourite forum cult figure  ---

wimmin's day tomorrow

trust me!!!
ps dear old kaye will be going bonkers tomorrow on the televisual experience
Report Platini March 7, 2018 7:27 PM GMT
I notice most of the twattreti retweeting this story and congratulating themselves are women

and yet, there's not a peep from them about Rotherham.
Report STUDYFORM March 7, 2018 7:29 PM GMT
This thread reads a bit like:
If you don't agree with Britain first and its views, you are a supporter of Islamic rapists/sharia law/anti-white propaganda/"free Isis bombers!" or whatever it is that makes people "leftist".

Why can't these people just be wrong too?
Report DenzilPenberthy March 7, 2018 7:29 PM GMT
Abuse of 'scummy tearaways' (in their eyes) might not fit the bill as well as the obviousWhoops
Report DenzilPenberthy March 7, 2018 7:31 PM GMT
All abusers are wrong STUDYFORM I think it's the difference on how the cases are reported and dealt with that's the problem.
Everyone should get the same treatment and they blatantly don't
Report moisok March 7, 2018 7:35 PM GMT
DON'T ANNOY ANYONE

thank me later


Re the progressives re tweeting -

a bit general I know, but most of the girls affected by the rotherham experience, would hardly fit in with the 'progressives' and their narrative
Report STUDYFORM March 7, 2018 7:38 PM GMT
The way people are treated is seldom known, Denzil.
The way news is sold influences how people think criminals are treated.

It's all a bit Daily Mail to me.
Report DenzilPenberthy March 7, 2018 7:40 PM GMT
It's nice to be law abiding nobody so I won't have to find out
Report moisok March 7, 2018 7:41 PM GMT
I always remember the attempts to gloss over/ play down or silence people over the first big case way back.
Report DenzilPenberthy March 7, 2018 7:48 PM GMT
The excuses you always here after are things like 'not acting early on information due to the sensitivity of the case'
We know what that means
Report DenzilPenberthy March 7, 2018 7:48 PM GMT
*hear ffs
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 7, 2018 7:51 PM GMT
Even those these 2 are a pair of idiots it is good that the crime was covered more than it would had ever been by the press.
Report casemoney March 7, 2018 7:51 PM GMT
I wonder how many Teams of Rampaging Rapist's have yet to be exposed nationwide  ?
Report moisok March 7, 2018 7:53 PM GMT
the first Times reporter mentioned an astonishing number (going back a bit)
Report casemoney March 7, 2018 7:55 PM GMT
Millions of Pounds gone Investigating Already ,at some point the Money will run out ...
Report treetop March 7, 2018 8:35 PM GMT
Why can't these people just be wrong too?


Of course they can SF but there is a smell ofP.C-ness about this investigation,as if they were out to get them at any cost. This group did campaign for the girl gangraped in Sunderland while the national press ignored it.
Report Injera March 7, 2018 8:58 PM GMT
The judge criticised the pair for insulting Islam. That nails it for me. Any critique of Islam is clearly off limits. BF may not be Earl Grey or even a builder's cup of tea but they speak more common sense than the political elite and MSM put together.

So what if they 'insulted' a few peace loving types???? And all this 'hate' bollox is just an excuse to shut down debate.

The slippery slope just got icey.
Report Platini March 7, 2018 9:00 PM GMT
BRITAIN'S SHAME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrUiHB5qJJ0
Report akabula March 7, 2018 9:13 PM GMT
I notice most of the twattreti retweeting this story and congratulating themselves are women
and yet, there's not a peep from them about Rotherham.


All virtue signallers burying their collective heads in the sand on how this religion views women.
Report DenzilPenberthy March 7, 2018 9:15 PM GMT
spot on ^^^^
Report akabula March 7, 2018 9:22 PM GMT
The judge criticised the pair for insulting Islam.

Absolutely incredible. Surely it is everyone right to criticise.
No surprise to see SF attacking anyone who has questioned the one sided approach to Islam that this country is seemingly taking.
ie Ignore the bad and hammer anyone who doesn't.
Report akabula March 7, 2018 9:28 PM GMT
BTW I haven't seen the literature they were distributing but I would bet it was truthful.
I base that assumption on this - guilty of religiously-aggravated harassment.
Maybe they were expected to turn the other cheek.
Report Injera March 7, 2018 9:29 PM GMT
Platini - that's an incredible piece..
Report STUDYFORM March 7, 2018 9:31 PM GMT
Once again akabula appearing like an unwanted skid mark every time I post anything.
And, deliberately misinterpreting what I've written.

I'm attacking no-one. Unlike you!
Report akabula March 7, 2018 9:44 PM GMT
This thread reads a bit like:
If you don't agree with Britain first and its views, you are a supporter of Islamic rapists/sharia law/anti-white propaganda/"free Isis bombers!" or whatever it is that makes people "leftist".


Looks like an attack to me. BTW you're not the only one to post on this thread, I merely mentioned you because you seem to get annoyed with anyone who criticises Islam.
(PS resorting to insults when addressing people is a sign of immaturity and a lack of debating skills)
Report casemoney March 7, 2018 9:49 PM GMT
Rapist Mobs been increasing for Decades ,anyone suggesting Such Harangued and Isolated ...
Report STUDYFORM March 7, 2018 9:52 PM GMT
I merely mentioned you because you seem to get annoyed with anyone who criticises Islam
No I don't!!!
Show me where I have. Ever.

You're just making stuff up. Go on, admit it.

If my response was immature... then I'm just a great big kid.

btw, the one-sided approach to islam you mention, is all over this thread and forum.
I write what I do in response to the things written on here, not to support anyone or anything.

You, on the other hand, appear in reply to almost everything I put on here, like a stalker (or, as I say, and unwanted skid mark)
Also, as I said, I "attacked" no-one (except possibly 'Britain first'). You "attacked" me.... again.

Now you can do the thing where you claim to have been fishing.
Report akabula March 7, 2018 9:55 PM GMT
An SF rant Love my night is made. Grin
Report STUDYFORM March 7, 2018 9:58 PM GMT
1.01 landed.
Report akabula March 7, 2018 10:00 PM GMT
Laugh
Report casemoney March 7, 2018 10:29 PM GMT
"the one-sided approach to islam you mention" 

Study there is a High Percentage on here who don't want to Know anything about Islam .I for one want to know absolutely Fck all about it ,Unfortunately it is not possible to Avoid in this day and age .
Report FatherMaguire March 7, 2018 10:33 PM GMT
Think i read that the 2 who were jailed were responsible for the outright lies that Donald Trump got controversy for retweeting - these two seem like deeply unpleasant human beings - jail seems the right place for them to me
Report Platini March 7, 2018 10:43 PM GMT
Talking of Trump, where the f*** were all the thousands of pu**y hat wearing screaming mobs protesting about today's state visit of head of the most mysogynistic nation on the planet ?

thats right, fecking nowhere to be seen, tumbleweed town

hyprocritcal bunch of C u next timers
Report akabula March 7, 2018 10:52 PM GMT
FM the tweets you refer to were certainly not downright lies.
What they tweeted was based on truth.
Report akabula March 7, 2018 10:54 PM GMT
Be fair Plat this new guy is in favour of letting women drive and travel abroad without an escort.
That, seemingly, is a massive step towards equality of the sexes. Laugh
Report Injera March 8, 2018 7:12 AM GMT
Plod picked on BF as easy targets. Why not go after Douglas Murray who wrote a book on the destruction of Europe caused by Islam?
Report STUDYFORM March 8, 2018 8:03 AM GMT

Mar 7, 2018 -- 10:29PM, casemoney wrote:


"the one-sided approach to islam you mention"  Study there is a High Percentage on here who don't want to Know anything about Islam .I for one want to know absolutely Fck all about it ,Unfortunately it is not possible to Avoid in this day and age .


I feel the same way about reality TV, but I try not to let it bother me.

Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 8:41 AM GMT
This is what happens when an alien culture is forced onto a country, people understandably don't like it
Report FatherMaguire March 8, 2018 8:58 AM GMT
can only speak for myself but nobody is forcing any alien culture on me - if they want to live in the same way as other muslims in the world why would anyone care? - 99% of Muslims live here perfectly peacefully and are massively beneficial to society. By all means criticise Muslims who commit criminal acts, but don't criticise them for being Muslims, or Muslim criminals, but simply for being criminals
Report detraveller March 8, 2018 9:40 AM GMT
Maybe next time they'll choose the making caricatures route when trying to insult Islam. Surely that is covered by the stupid freedom of speech thing? These two have only themselves to blame.
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 9:48 AM GMT
You can not separate the religion of a country and the religion of people within that country from the nature of that country,
multi cultural societies cannot work for this very reason
Of course it takes time, things do not change overnight, but it is very difficult to build a safe and free and peaceful society, it is dependent on people believing in the same things in the main and in who they want their society to be, and the freedoms they wish to have, not different things
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 9:51 AM GMT
you see the problem in a democracy is that you are bound by the people within that democracy, if they do not believe in the same things as yourself , or have the same way of looking at freedoms and democracy etc then you have a very major problem
That's what we see increasingly in Britain
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 9:58 AM GMT
It doesn't happen overnight, so of course father Maguire and people like that can be complacent
But we have only to look at the news every night to see how countries can change, and much more quickly than people realise
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 10:00 AM GMT
ok , lets take just that statement from father Maguire that muslims are massively beneficial to society
How are they?
is that rude to ask, well Maguire said it I am just asking how
Report saddo March 8, 2018 12:48 PM GMT
The only massive benefits regarding Muslims in my area are the housing and child variety.
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 12:56 PM GMT
Glad to see these two idiots jailed!

Far from being an attack on free speech their jailing is proof that sometimes the law is correct and applied!

Their idiocy nearly caused a Court Case to be quashed and the rapists may have been set free. What has that got to do with free speech?

How would anyone feel if some randon nutjob started banging on their door terrifying your wife and children accusing you of being a rapist? This is what they did! Filmed it and put it on the internet.

This is the type of problems we are going to face wen the center of politic's goes. Some people will become more politicised and the ZEALOTS and FALSE PROPHETS will be spreading their filth and there are plenty of idiots who will be repeating and echoing their lies.

They are filthy scum and equally as dangerous to us and our way of life as the musso's they decry!
Report moisok March 8, 2018 12:59 PM GMT
I laugh at the irony of it being international women's day and the leader of the most Mysogynistic society/country comes to the UK.
Maguire et all - they simply do not want to know about western culture - it is haram

I would have thought you have seen the clues.
Report moisok March 8, 2018 1:02 PM GMT
58 percent increase in terror related crimes - official. Today-  Not that I am blaming muslims for this cough cough

the latest from your 'on the ball' leading cult on here.

I am on a roll

with my soup 

nurse says it is time for my pills

ta ta  pip pip!!!
Report moisok March 8, 2018 1:03 PM GMT
I would assume the bacon/mosque incident (they use this word you know) would be included in the rise.
Report moisok March 8, 2018 1:04 PM GMT
of course the ideas are beaten and kicked into them at an early age

common practice
Report saddo March 8, 2018 1:12 PM GMT
The numbers in the Mail piece do not add up. 412 arrested, 86% had strong Islamic views. Then they say 'white' arrests rose 61% to 145. How can 145 people make up 14% of 412?
Report moisok March 8, 2018 1:13 PM GMT
but this britain first couple were a bit dense were they not - going around shouting that stuff through letter boxes??
I would much prefer an intellectual argument and critique of islam and other religions but you simply are not allowed without being shouted down, or much more sinister, completely ommitted by the tv news most of the time.
That is why they have the so called hate crime to protect them.
You only have to annoy someone to get reported although this lot were way over the top.
If you had seen the muslim girl with the copper on sky this morning (all about honour killing etc) and then the description of whites the muslim girl made - this would tell you where the problem is.  She was a victim of peer and community pressure and still wears the veil   - it sure is a very very strong influence -  very very powerful
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 1:20 PM GMT
We are heading to a place where these two idiots voices are going to be heard the loudest and you can see from this forum there are plenty of idiots who ape their calls!

Should the innocent geezer of the house they were screeching at have come home he would imho of been entirely withing his rights to not just but also! You scare an innocent owmen and two babies like that without and good reason and you deserve the retribution that might follow!

Oh and this is the type of thing I am talking about.

BTW I haven't seen the literature they were distributing but I would bet it was truthful.
I base that assumption on this - guilty of religiously-aggravated harassment.
Maybe they were expected to turn the other cheek.
Report moisok March 8, 2018 1:33 PM GMT
you  want to hear the Times reporter who struggled to get over to the authorities what was going on in a certain community
with the acquiescence of the political leaders, police and departments in the area. Took him 4 years to get through!!

this is the problem we have - these two are way out of line but we simply have zero balance in the reporting of what is going on elsewhere   ZERO
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 1:49 PM GMT
They did not wish or mean to cause offence or fear to any innocent person, they were foolish and made a mistake and should apologise to the family.
No one would say anything else of course, but it was a mistake
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 1:54 PM GMT
It often happens that innocent people, and guilty people are shouted at , threatened , abused by members of the public before coming to court and even on their way to court or in their own homes
That is what happens regardless of someones religion, don't think the judge is very competent
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 1:57 PM GMT
What should have happened?, they should have been fined and they should have apologised in person to the family
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 2:06 PM GMT
of course that is to set quite high standards on our own behaviour , in Britain.should you happen to be in some foreign country and happen to get into a spot of bother you will find that they are not so worried about such niceties , quite often
Report Dr Crippen March 8, 2018 2:14 PM GMT
They got jailed as a warning to others on the right, that ethnic groups will get extra protection from the law.

Just another example of the law taking sides. Like in the case of racism which the law only seems to recognise when it goes in one direction.

Society will become even more divided as a result. Perhaps that's the whole idea behind it?
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 2:16 PM GMT
They got jailed because they broke the Law!

We are heading to a place where these two idiots voices are going to be heard the loudest and you can see from this forum there are plenty of idiots who ape their calls!


Q.E.D.
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 2:18 PM GMT
so was mandela
Report saddo March 8, 2018 2:19 PM GMT
Guardianista logic. Anyone who does not like Islam is an idiot. Good luck with that.
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 2:19 PM GMT
and solzhenitsyn
Report Dr Crippen March 8, 2018 2:23 PM GMT
What they did didn't warrant going to jail.

It's more to do with who they are than what they did.
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 2:25 PM GMT
We are heading to a place where these two idiots voices are going to be heard the loudest and you can see from this forum there are plenty of idiots who ape their calls!

Q.E.D.
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 2:25 PM GMT
The judge is fearful of the mob
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 2:26 PM GMT
Could I get any of you guys a banana?
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 2:26 PM GMT
he has to be seen to be doing what he is told, justice and common honesty doesn't come into it
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 2:42 PM GMT
No offence woundedknee but I'd rather not soil my shoes in Stratford or Westfield thank you very much.

If they are on your patch why don't you confront them? Report them to the police? Better still use your superior intellect and preach to them about their peace loving religion.

Personally I have no time for religious zealots from Christain Terrorists to Muslim Terrorists. I was brought up by a Religion of Peace thank you very much and I didn't like it. The same religion repsonsible for the Spanish Inquisition, the one that burned women at the stake, went to a land 4,000  miles away and butchered thousands of innocent men, women and children. The Holy Men of this Religion of Peace would routinely beat and bugger children in their care.

Perhaps wounded knee you should confront these people if they scream and shout at you. Much better than talking about it! It will make you feel better.
Report dave1357 March 8, 2018 2:45 PM GMT
In gun happy America the householder could simply have shot the pair dead through the door.  That would be perfectly legal in that country.
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 2:46 PM GMT
what happened 200 years ago doesn't bother me, I insist on being unbothered by it
Report DenzilPenberthy March 8, 2018 2:48 PM GMT
Why risk jail for shyte like that?
Not hard to see the Law is heavily weighted in their favour and they're practically untouchable
We only find out about what's been swept under the carpet years after it's happened
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 2:49 PM GMT
Could I get you some termites and honey lfc?
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 2:52 PM GMT
the thought of what happened 200 years ago has never for a single moment troubled me
Report lfc1971 March 8, 2018 2:55 PM GMT
that's how things were then, of course athiests and other religions at the time were much worse
In the Aztec religion the blood of the sacrificed men women and children ran down the beautiful mountains like rainfall
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 2:55 PM GMT
That is reassuring, thank you. I for one would not say you are wrong or even alone in thinking that. We have much in common.
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 2:57 PM GMT
I'll get some peanuts!
Report woundedknee March 8, 2018 3:03 PM GMT
POST REMOVED ... THIS IS WHAT YOUR UP AGAINST WHEN YOU STATE THE TRUTH Laugh
Report woundedknee March 8, 2018 3:07 PM GMT
wd ... it would turn into a heated arguement .. and who do you think would get nicked ??  i will continue with my own way of dealing with the filth
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 3:09 PM GMT
Seriously woundedknee,

These scumbags need confronting. When you see them you have the opportunity to stand up for all of us so next time don't walk meekly by. Expose their lies and hippocracy.
Report woundedknee March 8, 2018 3:13 PM GMT
im a right thicko me wd ... thanks for your advice ..
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 3:13 PM GMT
Nobody wants these people around spouting forth their filth!

Most people just talk about it and do nothing!

If you have the opportunity take it. You might be surprised at how many people will suppoprt you. Don't look away!
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 3:15 PM GMT
I'm a cool head wounded knee!

I understand what you are saying though. No point getting into trouble and you are right, they would cart you away!

I don't think ordinary Muslims want this filth on their doorstep either. Thing is it is up to them imho to confront them, expose them for what they are andeject them from their mosque's and communities.
Report alun2005 March 8, 2018 4:30 PM GMT
Meanwhile, in other 'Hate Crime' news, apparently this case below WASN’T a violent Racist Hate Crime meriting an immediate custodial sentence.

Maybe the judge didn’t consider it racist because, after all, the violent gang only screamed “KILL THE WH!TE $LAG’ and called the innocent victim a ‘WH!TE B!TCH’ ?

I guess it couldn’t be called a Hate Crime because the gang only kicked the innocent victim’s head like a football time and again? 

I guess the gang couldn’t possibly go to jail for a (wholly inadequate) 5 years because they admitted the trifling offence of Causing Actual Bodily Harm?

No. Nothing so mundane.

The gang were spared jail purely because they had something which trumped the rights of their white victim, her injuries and the subsequent trauma which caused her to lose her Care Worker job.

The gang’s Peaceful Religion protected them from the impertinence of being jailed.   


The UK Judicial System is supposed to be colour blind, and operate without fear or favour towards anyone’s gender, race, faith or sexual preference.  Maybe that doesn’t apply though in special, shameful, culturally-enriching cases?

I guess there’s still time though for the authorities to pursue, prosecute and punish the boyfriend who used force to save the victim’s life?   

Those of you with high blood pressure may wish to look away now.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8939276/Mercy-for-the-drunk-Muslim-girl-gang-who-attacked-woman.html


I tried to find a Guardian report of this sickening crime and what passed for ‘justice’, but was unable to locate one via a search of the victim’s name and several of the criminals.

I did however find a Guardian piece praising a UK Constabulary’s ‘Hate Crime’ unit for investigating Basil Brush for possible racism.

Yes, you read that correctly. It REALLY happened. 

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https://www.theguardian.com/culture/tvandradioblog/2008/mar/18/isbasilbrushracist
Report DenzilPenberthy March 8, 2018 4:33 PM GMT
Should have a thread of it's own alun2005 Angry
Report DenzilPenberthy March 8, 2018 4:35 PM GMT
Don't start one on the Basil Brush story Wink
Report Injera March 8, 2018 4:56 PM GMT
Under hate crime laws, anyone can claim to be offended and on the receiving end of 'hate'. The police have to become involved. Paul Weston (the chap who got arrested for quoting Churchill) is worth listening to.

One woman complained, rang Plod and he was soon in a cell.

When Andrew Norfolk (Times journalist) exposed Rotherham he was called a racist and faced obstruction from Police, Councils and even Child Services.

Not ONE establishment figure has ever been charged with a hate crime for their collusion in that and many other scandals.
Report Dr Crippen March 8, 2018 5:04 PM GMT
The authorities have made their position clear.

And cases like the ones here, where one side is treated leniently and the other side harshly, only reinforce the divisions already present and do nothing to promote racial harmony.

If a businessperson knows that the law will be stacked against them in any conflict involving the employment of certain people. Then that person in business will make sure that they'll never find themselves in that position.

The powers that be know exactly what they're doing, it's called divide and conquer.
Report DenzilPenberthy March 8, 2018 5:18 PM GMT
Agree fully with the last 2 posts the problem is we live in a country that is getting thicker by the day with no common sense or honest judgement of right and wrong so if anything it's going to get even worseSad
Report Injera March 8, 2018 5:27 PM GMT
The Judge ruled that they were 'hostile to Muslims and the Islamic faith.'

"It was a campaign to draw attention to the race, religion and immigrant background of the defendants."

What's worrying is that the judge is implying you can't be anything other than supportive of Islam and must NOT highlight that these rape gangs tend to be from one section of the community.

Simply staggering. The judge has therefore indicted himself as being part of the national cover up into these scandals.

#nothingtodowithislam
Report DenzilPenberthy March 8, 2018 5:34 PM GMT
Without a doubt
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2018 5:47 PM GMT
Not ONE establishment figure has ever been charged with a hate crime for their collusion in that and many other scandals

This is also truly shocking. Leaving aside the barbarity of the perpetrators those who saw what was heppening and looked away. This is not just shameful but I feel in many cases there was criminal neglect.

Even if someone thinks a 14yo girl willinghly had sex with an adult and he is in a position of authority he must also conclude that a man had sex with a child and that is illegal. I can't begin to imagine what is in the minds of the inbreds and cave dwellers but I sometimes cannot believe what supposedly good men are thinking by turning a blind eye. That for me is even more shocking than because we should know better.


I agree crimes were committed but not just by the barbarians.
Report Platini March 9, 2018 8:49 PM GMT
Whats the point of a forum if posts get removed before anyones had a chance to read them ?  Crazy
Report STUDYFORM March 9, 2018 8:52 PM GMT
Is it happening again?
Report Platini March 9, 2018 8:55 PM GMT
woundedknee, did you see it before they deleted it ?  just curious.
Report akabula March 9, 2018 9:53 PM GMT
WD sticking up for his friends.
See no evil ...........................
Report akabula March 9, 2018 9:54 PM GMT
Just got around to watching that vid plat.
Shocking.
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