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27 Feb 18
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What are the odds ?
5 pairs out of 9 pre-flop
2 sets on the flop made
What are the odds ?
Table '2228907693 128' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Muslim203 (12541 in chips)
Seat 2: nilto balada (1530 in chips)
Seat 3: Wchang888 (6826 in chips)
Seat 4: MHillier91 (9914 in chips)
Seat 5: loesje56 (4484 in chips)
Seat 6: Black Japs I (2409 in chips)
Seat 7: TheLeopard (5054 in chips)
Seat 8: 444mmsm444 (4573 in chips)
Seat 9: h4lawa (5104 in chips)
Muslim203: posts the ante 8
nilto balada: posts the ante 8
Wchang888: posts the ante 8
MHillier91: posts the ante 8
loesje56: posts the ante 8
Black Japs I: posts the ante 8
TheLeopard: posts the ante 8
444mmsm444: posts the ante 8
h4lawa: posts the ante 8
Black Japs I: posts small blind 30
TheLeopard: posts big blind 60
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheLeopard [Td Th]
444mmsm444: calls 60
h4lawa: folds
Muslim203: folds
nilto balada: calls 60
Wchang888: raises 180 to 240
MHillier91: raises 7426 to 7666
loesje56: folds
Black Japs I: folds
TheLeopard: calls 4986 and is all-in
444mmsm444: calls 4505 and is all-in
nilto balada: calls 1462 and is all-in
Wchang888: calls 6578 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (848) returned to MHillier91
*** FLOP *** [Jc 5c Ah]
*** TURN *** [Jc 5c Ah] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 5c Ah 7c] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Wchang888: shows [Jd Js] (three of a kind, Jacks)
MHillier91: shows [Qh Qs] (a pair of Queens)
Wchang888 collected 3544 from side pot-3
TheLeopard: shows [Td Th] (a pair of Tens)
Wchang888 collected 1443 from side pot-2
444mmsm444: shows [8c 8d] (a pair of Eights)
Wchang888 collected 12172 from side pot-1
nilto balada: shows [5h 5s] (three of a kind, Fives)
Wchang888 collected 7712 from main pot
TheLeopard finished the tournament
444mmsm444 finished the tournament
nilto balada finished the tournament
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 24871 Main pot 7712. Side pot-1 12172. Side pot-2 1443. Side pot-3 3544. | Rake 0
Board [Jc 5c Ah 7c 3d]
Seat 1: Muslim203 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: nilto balada showed [5h 5s] and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 3: Wchang888 showed [Jd Js] and won (24871) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 4: MHillier91 showed [Qh Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: loesje56 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Black Japs I (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: TheLeopard (big blind) showed [Td Th] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 8: 444mmsm444 showed [8c 8d] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: h4lawa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
5 pairs out of 9 pre-flop
2 sets on the flop made
What are the odds ?
Table '2228907693 128' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Muslim203 (12541 in chips)
Seat 2: nilto balada (1530 in chips)
Seat 3: Wchang888 (6826 in chips)
Seat 4: MHillier91 (9914 in chips)
Seat 5: loesje56 (4484 in chips)
Seat 6: Black Japs I (2409 in chips)
Seat 7: TheLeopard (5054 in chips)
Seat 8: 444mmsm444 (4573 in chips)
Seat 9: h4lawa (5104 in chips)
Muslim203: posts the ante 8
nilto balada: posts the ante 8
Wchang888: posts the ante 8
MHillier91: posts the ante 8
loesje56: posts the ante 8
Black Japs I: posts the ante 8
TheLeopard: posts the ante 8
444mmsm444: posts the ante 8
h4lawa: posts the ante 8
Black Japs I: posts small blind 30
TheLeopard: posts big blind 60
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheLeopard [Td Th]
444mmsm444: calls 60
h4lawa: folds
Muslim203: folds
nilto balada: calls 60
Wchang888: raises 180 to 240
MHillier91: raises 7426 to 7666
loesje56: folds
Black Japs I: folds
TheLeopard: calls 4986 and is all-in
444mmsm444: calls 4505 and is all-in
nilto balada: calls 1462 and is all-in
Wchang888: calls 6578 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (848) returned to MHillier91
*** FLOP *** [Jc 5c Ah]
*** TURN *** [Jc 5c Ah] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 5c Ah 7c] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Wchang888: shows [Jd Js] (three of a kind, Jacks)
MHillier91: shows [Qh Qs] (a pair of Queens)
Wchang888 collected 3544 from side pot-3
TheLeopard: shows [Td Th] (a pair of Tens)
Wchang888 collected 1443 from side pot-2
444mmsm444: shows [8c 8d] (a pair of Eights)
Wchang888 collected 12172 from side pot-1
nilto balada: shows [5h 5s] (three of a kind, Fives)
Wchang888 collected 7712 from main pot
TheLeopard finished the tournament
444mmsm444 finished the tournament
nilto balada finished the tournament
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 24871 Main pot 7712. Side pot-1 12172. Side pot-2 1443. Side pot-3 3544. | Rake 0
Board [Jc 5c Ah 7c 3d]
Seat 1: Muslim203 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: nilto balada showed [5h 5s] and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 3: Wchang888 showed [Jd Js] and won (24871) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 4: MHillier91 showed [Qh Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: loesje56 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Black Japs I (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: TheLeopard (big blind) showed [Td Th] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 8: 444mmsm444 showed [8c 8d] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: h4lawa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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I dont know But the chap who is all in with 88 needs to find another pastime 
And someone advise that Muslim chap he should no be gambling
The card game “Poker” first was called such around the early 19th century. ... There was also a German card game that is similar to Poker called “Pochspiel”, which in turn got its name from the German word “pochen” (which is also where the French “Poque” got its name). “Pochen” at the time meant “to brag or bluff”.22 Aug 2012
I was being facetious bud, get a grip, poker as in lottery,poor mans game
If you think it a lottery you either don't play or are what we call a depositor. 
I don't know the odds on that, Leopard, but I had a hand the other day on omaha when I had a full house, aces over kings and went allin only to find to my horror that he had four of a kind kings, but then on the river card another ace turned up and I had four of a kind aces!
We, is that me,you or everyone else ,intrigued bud?
Yes, akabula, I mainly play omaha hi lo.
I didn't know you played omaha.
I didn't know you played omaha.
Chance of pocket pair = 1/17
1/17 ^ 5 = 1 / 1,419,857
Odds could be near this
I don't play Omaha....have to win World Series at Texas Hold first
1/17 ^ 5 = 1 / 1,419,857
Odds could be near this
I don't play Omaha....have to win World Series at Texas Hold first
Only the hi/lo now Annie.
Currently on laddies trying to get back into holdem.
Currently on laddies trying to get back into holdem.
I sometimes play the freeroll they keep giving me on holdem but I find it a bit boring after omaha.
I think it is being a woman, men like bluffing and being aggressive but I am hopeless with that. I find it is a real flaw in my playing
Perhaps I should get a transgender operation!
I think it is being a woman, men like bluffing and being aggressive but I am hopeless with that. I find it is a real flaw in my playing
Perhaps I should get a transgender operation!
perhaps all 9 hands were pairs.
the odds against the 5 pairs would be slightly less than
the 1/1,419,857.
this figure would then have to be divided by 126 (perm any 5 from 9)
the odds against the 5 pairs would be slightly less than
the 1/1,419,857.
this figure would then have to be divided by 126 (perm any 5 from 9)
The game has changed dramatically over the years Annie as players gain experience.
I used to play the 6 seater stts and just play position.
Eventually the noobies got wise to it but it was really profitable whilst it lasted.
I used to play the 6 seater stts and just play position.
Eventually the noobies got wise to it but it was really profitable whilst it lasted.
I agree, akabula. I used to love holdem sngs but as you say they got horribly aggressive and most hands were over before the deal. I don't call that playing cards. At least in omaha you get to the deal most times.
The Leopard 27 Feb 18 22:48
Chance of pocket pair = 1/17
1/17 ^ 5 = 1 / 1,419,857
Odds could be near this
It is actually very complex to work out these kind of problems. For a start if you have a pair it is actually more likely that another pair is dealt.
A pair being dealt is 78/1326 (16-1) but after the first pair is out it moves to 74/1225 (15.5-1)
Anyway using 16-1^5 is fair enough as an approx for 5 players getting pairs at a 5 handed table but as there are 9 players being dealt so you have to adjust. Maybe 17^5/126 as there are 126 combs of 5 in nine? That would bring it down to 11268-1 which seems a bit low so prob not right.
Chance of pocket pair = 1/17
1/17 ^ 5 = 1 / 1,419,857
Odds could be near this
It is actually very complex to work out these kind of problems. For a start if you have a pair it is actually more likely that another pair is dealt.
A pair being dealt is 78/1326 (16-1) but after the first pair is out it moves to 74/1225 (15.5-1)
Anyway using 16-1^5 is fair enough as an approx for 5 players getting pairs at a 5 handed table but as there are 9 players being dealt so you have to adjust. Maybe 17^5/126 as there are 126 combs of 5 in nine? That would bring it down to 11268-1 which seems a bit low so prob not right.
Agree with KOD there are 3 PP that clearly need to be getting out of way .
Am I the only person who thinks that hand is standard?
I've seen AA, KK, QQ, TT all-in preflop.
I've seen AA, KK, QQ, TT all-in preflop.
I was playing in a game when a bloke (rightly) folded pocket 7s, but he folded everything that wasn't good and only played about 1 hand in 10.
Anyway the first 2 cards on the flop...7...7
The odds against that must be big too.
The thing is, the odds against any specific things on the preflop are huge.
You could ask what are the odds of everyone getting consecutive cards. eg, 5 6, 2 3, 9 10, 6 7.
It's more or less impossible to calculate.
Anyway the first 2 cards on the flop...7...7
The odds against that must be big too.
The thing is, the odds against any specific things on the preflop are huge.
You could ask what are the odds of everyone getting consecutive cards. eg, 5 6, 2 3, 9 10, 6 7.
It's more or less impossible to calculate.
ALSO, just remembered why I stopped playing internet poker. I was Betfair Poker as it happens.
A big tournament.
In the 1st 9 hands of the tournament, on my table, there were pocket Aces to someone at the table (not the same person, in fact I got them once).
They only held up 2 or 3 times. Anyone all-in might well have lost. Which is quite useful for the originators of a massive number of player tourney.
A big tournament.
In the 1st 9 hands of the tournament, on my table, there were pocket Aces to someone at the table (not the same person, in fact I got them once).
They only held up 2 or 3 times. Anyone all-in might well have lost. Which is quite useful for the originators of a massive number of player tourney.
Amazing the People I knew Played on Line ,that do not anymore..
amazing because the land based casinos are trying to squeeze
every last penny from the players.
i spendt a lot of time in 1990's playing poker,kalooki and occasionally backgammon in the local
casinos.at no time did they charge me a penny,tea with cake or sandwitches were free but the girls serving
were always tipped.
when the holdem comps began about 1992 they were always money added comps and a bottle of champagne
was given for the best hand before the final table and another for the best hand in the final.
it was only a few months before the added money and the champagne stopped but i was never charged a
entry fee.
i reckon it would cost me more than £10K a year to play the for same amount of time these days.
every last penny from the players.
i spendt a lot of time in 1990's playing poker,kalooki and occasionally backgammon in the local
casinos.at no time did they charge me a penny,tea with cake or sandwitches were free but the girls serving
were always tipped.
when the holdem comps began about 1992 they were always money added comps and a bottle of champagne
was given for the best hand before the final table and another for the best hand in the final.
it was only a few months before the added money and the champagne stopped but i was never charged a
entry fee.
i reckon it would cost me more than £10K a year to play the for same amount of time these days.
gentings serve a la carte very reasonable prices
also a free drink( prob to get you to roulette)
also a free drink( prob to get you to roulette)
It was a bit like when they used to give free buffets in the early 80's, JML.
The casinos thought that they could invite loads of people to play Poker (or eat free food) and incentivise it.
But after a while it became apparent that not only did the people turning up not play any other games (which was the hope), but they put the regulars off coming to the casino.
Not bad while it lasted though.
The casinos thought that they could invite loads of people to play Poker (or eat free food) and incentivise it.
But after a while it became apparent that not only did the people turning up not play any other games (which was the hope), but they put the regulars off coming to the casino.
Not bad while it lasted though.
free buffets were very rare by the 90s
the card room i used provided plenty of buisness for the roulette and blackjack tables
and a well positioned and busy card room improves the atmosphere of the whole casino.
it was the kalooki players that really help fill the card room most of the time.
the card room i used provided plenty of buisness for the roulette and blackjack tables
and a well positioned and busy card room improves the atmosphere of the whole casino.
it was the kalooki players that really help fill the card room most of the time.
Should have gone all-in before flop ?
Thursday,March 1, 23:03:26 GMT 2018
Table KO Series #24-Mi: $10K Gtd [Fast] (163450015) Table #14 ( Real Money )
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8/8
seat 1: oldmanclive ( 811,132 )
seat 2: doberman1116 ( 237,215 )
seat 3: Briantrinder ( 438,757 )
seat 4: JosefundPoker ( 16,225 )
seat 5: ARTEMFED ( 179,481 )
seat 6: THELEOPARD ( 403,796 )
seat 7: lorzins77 ( 91,208 )
seat 8: IMTSdox015 ( 699,417 )
Trny:163450015 Level:14
Blinds-Antes(3,500/7,000 -900)
oldmanclive posts ante [900 ]
doberman1116 posts ante [900 ]
Briantrinder posts ante [900 ]
JosefundPoker posts ante [900 ]
ARTEMFED posts ante [900 ]
THELEOPARD posts ante [900 ]
lorzins77 posts ante [900 ]
IMTSdox015 posts ante [900 ]
Briantrinder posts small blind [3,500 ].
JosefundPoker posts big blind [7,000 ].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to THELEOPARD [ Jh, Js ]
ARTEMFED folds
THELEOPARD raises [ 21,000 ]
lorzins77 folds
IMTSdox015 folds
oldmanclive folds
doberman1116 folds
Briantrinder calls [ 17,500 ]
JosefundPoker folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, Qh, Jd ]
Briantrinder checks
THELEOPARD is all-In [ 381,896 ]
Briantrinder calls [ 381,896 ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Tc ]
Briantrinder shows [ Td, Kd ]a straight, Ten to Ace.
THELEOPARD shows [ Jh, Js ]three of a kind, Jacks.
Briantrinder wins 819,992 chips from the main pot with a straight, Ten to Ace.
Player THELEOPARD finished in xxx.
Briantrinder has knocked out THELEOPARD and won a $2 USD bounty prize.
Thursday,March 1, 23:03:26 GMT 2018
Table KO Series #24-Mi: $10K Gtd [Fast] (163450015) Table #14 ( Real Money )
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8/8
seat 1: oldmanclive ( 811,132 )
seat 2: doberman1116 ( 237,215 )
seat 3: Briantrinder ( 438,757 )
seat 4: JosefundPoker ( 16,225 )
seat 5: ARTEMFED ( 179,481 )
seat 6: THELEOPARD ( 403,796 )
seat 7: lorzins77 ( 91,208 )
seat 8: IMTSdox015 ( 699,417 )
Trny:163450015 Level:14
Blinds-Antes(3,500/7,000 -900)
oldmanclive posts ante [900 ]
doberman1116 posts ante [900 ]
Briantrinder posts ante [900 ]
JosefundPoker posts ante [900 ]
ARTEMFED posts ante [900 ]
THELEOPARD posts ante [900 ]
lorzins77 posts ante [900 ]
IMTSdox015 posts ante [900 ]
Briantrinder posts small blind [3,500 ].
JosefundPoker posts big blind [7,000 ].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to THELEOPARD [ Jh, Js ]
ARTEMFED folds
THELEOPARD raises [ 21,000 ]
lorzins77 folds
IMTSdox015 folds
oldmanclive folds
doberman1116 folds
Briantrinder calls [ 17,500 ]
JosefundPoker folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, Qh, Jd ]
Briantrinder checks
THELEOPARD is all-In [ 381,896 ]
Briantrinder calls [ 381,896 ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Tc ]
Briantrinder shows [ Td, Kd ]a straight, Ten to Ace.
THELEOPARD shows [ Jh, Js ]three of a kind, Jacks.
Briantrinder wins 819,992 chips from the main pot with a straight, Ten to Ace.
Player THELEOPARD finished in xxx.
Briantrinder has knocked out THELEOPARD and won a $2 USD bounty prize.
Not much wrong with how you played that hand, I don’t think.
Making your set on the flop was the right time to push with the two overcards on the board, he had paired either you’re getting called and big fav to win. Just very unlucky.
Your previous hand, I agree with whoever said you needed to get the fk out of dodge. With that many live and only tens on that board, you’re highly unlikely to be in front.
Making your set on the flop was the right time to push with the two overcards on the board, he had paired either you’re getting called and big fav to win. Just very unlucky.
Your previous hand, I agree with whoever said you needed to get the fk out of dodge. With that many live and only tens on that board, you’re highly unlikely to be in front.
The first hand was very early in the the game and low buy-in so a bit of a punt.....wouldn't have called if I had spent 2 hrs building a stack.
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