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Oh a solution at last. Be prepared for "Disgruntled teacher shoots all of his pupils."
What a sick fcukin country. Kid wearing bulletproof vests instead of Gym vests
What a sick fcukin country. Kid wearing bulletproof vests instead of Gym vests
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I am sure when enrolling for a career as a teacher they will enjoy having their marksmanship skills tested.
Far more important that they can shoot the apple off a mans head rather than explain the tale of William Tell. Good ole' USA. They have such well thought out solutions to the slaying of kids due to 'the right to bare arms.' |
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impossible to Implement A gun ban if it they wanted ,Shirley the way Forward is Armed Security Man at each School ,schools and Colleges all linked up ,plenty of returning Vets looking for work , A gun tax should be implemented to pay for them .
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What a load of rubbish casemoney!
Think about it. Is the armed security guard going to carrying a high powered assault rifle? You think he will want to take on a young punk if he has a pistol? How many " Socialist " European countries have schools with armed guards? The terrorist organisation the National Rifle Association have not allowed it's retainers to vote for any control of guns! We heard their dicke in chief today saying he wanted background checks for years but them went on to deride any checks asking who would decide who was fit and proper to carry a gun! lets see if Congress votes for stronger background checks and a ban on bump stocks! I am not sure they will. I agree with the kid who asked how come he can't buy a beer at 18 and yet he can go out and buy a weapon of war! There is little cause for the sale of Assault Rifles. Don't get me wrong, if I had one I would not want to give it back but we all know it is just plain wrong and stupid. Incidentally I have been shooting in America, not at a gun club but on open land, pistols and shot guns. I remember this guy in an SUV pulled up in a SUV and just pulled an M16 out of the boot ( trunk! ) and started bashing them out at a distance of 25 yards! Only in America! |
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I dont you can defeat or defend guns with guns.
USA are mental about there guns, the only way is change their whole outlook and that aint going to happen with who finances the USA. |
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I don't think you get get rid of the guns you are right but they can do better background checks, they can ban bump stocks and they can ban assault rifles....but like you say I am not sure they will.
The NRA will fight tooth and nail over this in the background because they realise once the first laws are passed and attitudes change their arguments hold no water. I am extremely sceptical much will be done. |
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Find myself agreeing 100% with a Sonko post.
Need tequila. |
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A pair of assault rifles, nearly 100-high-capacity magazines and two handguns were discovered in the home of a 17-year-old who was arrested for threatening to open fire at his school in California.
You don't bring a pistol to an assault rifle fight! You might even get gang bangers try and rob the guns from the security guards! Scary Mary! |
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I remember reading a Judge Dredd comic strip where a school was attacked and the teachers all drew their guns
and fired back. It seems that dystopian vision is frighteningly close to reality now |
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Head of the NRA response: “The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun”..........Words fail me.
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As long as the good guy is a good shot
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problem is a shooter burst into a classroom, who is the first to get it ? wouldnt like to be a teacher
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Give all the kids guns as well - just to be on the safe side
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in the u s a .....
how come you cant get on a plane with a gun but you can walk into a school with a gun tougher security will be the answer until it dont work properly |
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What about if a teacher with a gun loses his rag at some pupils?
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Sorry, I just read the OP.
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There is a problem with the American school system and the age of the pupils
In America the vast majority of students stay in school until at least 18 Technically you can legally leave at 16 but this is discouraged(known as dropouts) and the job prospects for someone without a high school diploma in the states is worse than dismal....big mistake the vast majority of students stay in school until 18,very many are not suited to being in school , they are young men not children, big mistake the vast majority of school pupils should be leaving school at 16, at the latest, even 14 or 15 would be ideal preferably into an apprenticeship of some sort and a work environment if you have young men, in this sort of artificial environment here they are literally forced to stay in school from the ages of 16 to 18 and if they don't they are considered drop outs and have dismal job prospects and add to this the American culture of guns and availability of guns then you have a potentially explosive mix They system is wrong, the vast majority of young people should not be in school under these circumstances, That is the root cause of the problem |
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Did anyone ask the teachers opinion?
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arm the teachers and have armed military personal on school in the meantime
This is just a preventative measure and nothing wrong with that But unless the fundamentalproblem of having millions of young men in school who shouldn't be in school is addressed , and add to this the culture of violence in the mainstream now Then this is something that can happen, perhaps even is likely to happen |
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Many young men don't become fully human until they have left school , they have to be in the real world, they have to have a job and live in a different environment, they have to meet a girl and their brains have to become fully human
This can really only happen , for many even most young men after leaving school and learning in the real world |
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^ i was just thinking what a sensible post, for once, about students being kept in the high school environment for
far too long then you revert to type & suggest "military personnel" in high schools  . |
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I am saying that is a short term preventative measure, but not really a solution and certainly not something that should be the case
The very fact that it is necessary means there is a fault at the very heart of the system And that must be addressed, schools are no place for very many young men |
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It is complete madness to have a situation where they are considered drop outs and have extremely reduced chances of getting a job and in life if they leave at 16
For heavens sake it is not sensible for many many , perhaps most |
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TBF it has been recognised and you can finish a high school diploma online, at adult learning centres & many community
colleges will allow enrolment without a HSD where they make up the missing credits along side the degree course. |
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forget about the bloddy high school diploma !
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when they have an armed police officer on site who fails to act it pretty much tells you that stopping gun ownership in the first place is the only way to prevent killings
given the number of guns in circulation in the usa i doubt they will ever solve this |
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it is a combination of the culture of violence in modern society, in films, video games, the most dangerous the internet, and guns
And then you have young men, in this environment, part of this environment, growing up in this environment And they are in school , young men who should have left before , who should not be there not children, young men and the very powerful force for evil that is the internet and the prevailing culture of violence |
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As long as the good guy is a good shot
I posted this yesterday, turns out the good guy has to have some courage as well |
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America is a very courageous country, so is England . But we are in danger of making ourselves less as men, men are different.
They have to be courageous |
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Some absolute bollox on this thread.
Without banning the general sale of firearms then everything else is superfluous. The government need to immediately ban the sale of firearms to the general public. Declare the ownership of arms illegal from a set date and pay gun owners compensation for every gun they hand over in an amnesty. They need to reinforce all of this with a hard hitting government funded marketing campaign explaining what is happening (as above), why it's happening (look at gun crime rates in the rest of the developed world) and what a future without gun totting maniacs would be like (not worrying about dropping kids off at school for eg). There is no other solution. |
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Just to show charwell ( and many others) are correct, armed security present, students still killed.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/armed-guard-duty-florida-school-shooting-never-went-093208213.html |
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^ silly post
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The problem America faces is that it is really the largest and most diverse multi cultural society ever created
multi cultural societies are more violent in such societies innocent people need guns to protect themselves from violent people so do not want to give up this protection in such a society But of course because it is a multicultural society and by its nature more violent the people within this society cannot trust others within the society with guns So that is the dilemma, they need guns to protect themselves and they cant trust their fellow citizens with guns Other countries such as Israel have as many guns as America, to protect themselves but of course that is to protect themselves from an outside threat, not so much amongst themselves and so they don't have the same problems |
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The government need to immediately ban the sale of firearms to the general public. Declare the ownership of arms illegal from a set date and pay gun owners compensation for every gun they hand over in an amnesty.
Great idea charwell! Gang bangers, biker clubs and the Mafia all well know for not wanting to do anything illegal !!! Only law abiding citizens would give up their weapons leaving them at a worse advantage. Sadly given the number of weapons in circulation that particular horse has well and truly bolted. |
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I am afraid ufc in that society it cannot be done, too dangerous, you might as well say that the Israelis should give up their individual firearms
That wont be done either, too dangerous |
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the guns are their for a reason, no good person wants them , but they need them
they neede them because they cant trust the people around them |
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This is not unusual, it is inevitable in such a society. America was the first to create such a society
now others have followed, not a good idea |
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It is a wonderful country in many ways, but it has this fatal flaw
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America should have a gun referendum and the states who vote for an outright ban should declare independence and separation from the states who don't support a ban
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Arming the teachers puts the kids at risk. The only solution to that is arming the kids as well.
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