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Are you a druggy?
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Amitryptiline
Diazepam Zopiclone Pentaprozole Sertraline Tildeum |
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about 50 bow a night(400ml)
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YEP
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UFCDAN .. why werent you at skitzis do today in Bromley ? must of been about 50+ old firm
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It's startling when we consider the health of people in the West.
When instead of us all enjoying better health as a result of science, our health is getting worse. How many couples are there over the age of 60 where one of them aren't taking some kind of prescription drug? I'd guess it's more likely that both of them are taking the stuff. And if this thread is any criterion, drug cocktails seem to be the norm. Which is not surprising because metabolic syndrome includes high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, gout and obesity. Suffer with one and the risk of having the others goes up. It's clear that something is going radically wrong. |
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apart from the fresh stuff look what processed food is available - tons of it - full of crap
big food organisations profit from it - it is a huge scandal |
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Yes moisok, it's the food.
A recent report told us of the increased cancer risks associated with processed food. And going back, how many times have we been warned about eating scorched protein in the form of bacon, beef steak, even toast. A report comes out, it's published, then tucked away with the rest of the warnings, and the public carry on eating the stuff and feeding it to their kids. Anyone who takes any notice and refuses to eat the poison is regarded as a freak. |
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The obesity epidemic is simply sugar addiction.
What else can it be when someone can't eat a biscuit without finishing off the packet, or eating a portion of ice cream without going back for more, and that's on top of a meal. It's the sugar; 30% turns to fat and fructose doesn't trigger insulin. So the bit that comes with insulin which tells the brain that you've eaten enough isn't present, and you carry on loading up with carbs and fat. For a similar reason diabetics are always hungry, the drugs they take don't come with a appetite suppressor like our own insulin does, so they're always hungry as well. |
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^^See what I mean?
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You might as well try and educate a monkey for all the notice they take.
What's your prescription drug count by the way? |
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@ STUDYFORM.....
Add the 'Topical Steroid Cream' to my list... I wonder where I would be, if my bro in law hadn't hooked me up to his BP monitor, as someone who was also suffering with hypertension! My result was almost off the scale, and hence started with this cocktail of prescription drugs,increasing, and adding to, over time! I guess could have been deceased, as this was perhaps twenty five years ago, or could have been a long time afterwards before ending up in the doctor's surgery as, before that, I hadn't been to a GP for years. |
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Actually I am a freak by normal standards, in that I don't take any prescription drugs at all.
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What an amazing thread!!
Unbelievable to read about all these prescription drugs everyone's taking. I'm 51, I haven't seen a doctor since I was about 18, in fact I don't even have a doctor. I smoke, I drink socially - not heavily - three or four times a week, and I eat more or less exactly what I want whenever I want it. I'm 6ft 3in, always carried a pound or two more than my fighting weight, still play cricket to a decent standard - I've noticed a slight and progressive reduction in physical power over the last couple of years but nothing too alarming. I have never taken a drug prescribed by a doctor. I take a small dose of God's herbal medicine every day, and I feel as fit as a fiddle. Incidentally, I haven't had a cold or flu or anything like that for at least twenty years. |
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My brother, only 2 years younger than me, has no medication (except for when he gets gout) and he's a couple of years older than you, jed!
Different folks, different strokes, eh? From time to time I'm on even more than I listed. All we can go by is current medical thinking and that is that we many people should take all these (mostly preventative) pills. As we get older, we get less energy, less strong and less able and it's progressive, sadly. No-one warned me about this. Until about 5 years ago, I took hardly anything for anything. |
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STUDYFORM
There are 9 calories in a gram of fat and 4 in a gram of sugar |
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Have to admit that this is my failing....
"Red table wine and rose wine provide the same level of calories, with about 125 calories per glass, or 625 calories per bottle. White table wine is slightly lower in calories, with 121 calories per glass, or 605 calories per bottle". |
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Look at the calories in these 'coffees' in high street cafes and they contain twice as much as a bottle of wine.
There is no appetite to properly inform people when the politics are short-termist and profit is everything. Its politics that shape agendas that encourage opportunism for gain today and dont care what the after effects are, so irresponsibility is ingrained and companies produce whatever they need to make money, if people die theres another to replace them. Its the private sector that does this, if ever 'good advice' is offered that is only ever the result of public funding. You have little or no chance. Your cell division is set to degrade over time, and the greed of corporations increase within capitalism to create growth. That means temptation is used at every turn, its very difficult to avoid bad influence. As for drugs I took recreational ones but non of these on the lists. Its ironic given the advice that nobody should take drugs unless they are the ones sanctioned and taxed and created by big pharma. |
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Sorry, denzil, you are right. it's about 2.5 times more calories for fat over sugar, not 8 times as I said.
I knew it was about 120 calories for a Tablespoon of oil and about 15 for a tablespoon of sugar except I've been getting it wrong for years!!! Turns out its about 15 for a TEAspoon of sugar. I'm in the wrong job to be labouring under such a misapprehension. Thank you. |
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One of the most interesting things I discovered recently was how prices of drugs varies SO greatly. In the USA they're ridiculously more expensive than anywhere else.
One of the steroid creams I have to use has a cost of £37 in this country. It's about $800 in the states. I bought 30 Omeprazole in a little pot for about £2.50 about 5 years ago at the chemist in the airport in Menorca. They're prescription only and a minimum of £25 here for 30 and about $75 in the US |
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If you have Netflix there are plenty of documentaries about prescription drugs it's a huge corrupt business with propaganda galore and we're trying to to be the same seemingly
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You see those documentaries on amazon prime also, and having watched one you get other suggestions of similar persuasions.
Until such time you are marked down as a non conformist and placed on the watchlist  |
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I don't have Netflix.
But I know about Pharmaceutical companies. More especially the people who work for and run them. I don't know how they live with themselves. They are among those at the root of the world's evils. Profit is placed far above death, pain and misery. Even when they've made a fortune on a product, or might still make loads, just not quite as much. Like most things. How much easier could life be for some people if there were less huge corporations. |
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Health is big business both sides of the Atlantic.
The criterion for prescribing statins was lowered from 6 to 5 not too many years ago. There was no reason given. Now the threshold for diagnosing high blood pressure has been lowered, certainly in America. Which nets I don't know how many more millions of people to sell their drugs to. And is dangerous, lifestyle changes can correct blood pressure. So a person on BP lowering drugs who changes their habits could see their BP falling too low. The idea is to sell as many drugs as possible. I suspect the top NHS boys in charge of policy are in the control of the drug manufacturers. What other explanation was there for the reluctance of health professionals to adopt the cure for stomach ulcers? Ten years after the cure was made public still only 10% of GPs were using it. The situation is different now of course, but it still stinks. |
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This high cholesterol lark is bolox in many cases from what I've learned
Your cholesterol fluctuates all day and night and readings can be a bit of a lottery especially when in a fasted state as your liver produces cholesterol to feed you Having higher cholesterol you are LESS LIKELY to suffer from many diseases The fact that Heart Disease is the number 1 killer in Vegans says alot |
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A review of scientific studies into the effectiveness of statins found that around one in every 50 people who take the medication for five years will avoid a serious event, such as a heart attack or stroke, as a result.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/statins/ 1 in 50, which includes the high risk groups that have already had a heart attack or stroke. Why do the figures include the high risk groups? Is there something they don't want us to know? The figures for the side effects are fiddled as well. I understand they do a preliminary test on people before they subject them to any study. So those who show immediate symptoms aren't used in the study. Which is fiddling the figures in anyone's book. I wonder how many members of the general public are taken off these drugs after the first check is made? I know three people personally who were taken off statins due to liver problems, |
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Statins are effective in decreasing mortality in people with pre-existing CVD.[25] They are also advocated for use in people at high risk of developing coronary heart disease.[26] On average, statins can lower LDL cholesterol by 1.8 mmol/l (70 mg/dl), which translates into an estimated 60% decrease in the number of cardiac events (heart attack, sudden cardiac death) and a 17% reduced risk of stroke after long-term treatment.[27] They have less effect than the fibrates or niacin in reducing triglycerides and raising HDL-cholesterol ("good cholesterol").[28][29]
Statins have been studied for improving operative outcomes in cardiac and vascular surgery.[30] Mortality and adverse cardiovascular events were reduced in statin groups. |
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A tiny 75mg Aspirin twice a week will bring about 1 in 50.
Statins are quite effective preventative drugs. Particularly with high-risk groups. The biggest side effect issue is usually muscular pain - particularly legs. |
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Cholesterol blood tests should always be fasting tests, Denzil, otherwise they would, you're right, be inaccurate.
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I'm no supporter of prescribed poisons, but some of them do have their purpose.
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The point I was trying to make about the blood cholesterol tests are that your blood cholesterol in naturally higher when fasted so the readings will be abnormally high in some healthy people.
Agree with statins for those who've gone too far but there's plenty who take zero responsibilty for their lifestyle and expect drugs to cure everything.It's rife everywhere I'm sure if I went to get checked over properly they'd have me on something I had alot of unhealthy years but through work commitments and life there's always things that get in the way of sorting it out. I've had to have a complete change of everything to get to the stage I'm at now but trying to be healthy is a way of life and it's probably not possible for most people in today's society. I can only do it these days because I'm on my own time and my social life is non existent tbh. |
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Agree completely with Denzel's second sentence about people relying on drugs to compensate for a poor lifestyle. They're deluded if they think that might work.
Such as the situation with heart disease. Does high LDL cholesterol causes heart disease - absolutely not. Does heart disease cause high LDL cholesterol - absolutely yes. Yet most people think it's the other way around. Inflammation in the arteries causes heart disease, not cholesterol. The cholesterol simply repairs the damage caused by inflammation. That's why we need to change our lifestyles if we have high levels of LDL. Lowering LDL doesn't prevent heart disease. |
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Should be; lowering LDL in itself doesn't prevent heart disease.
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