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17 Feb 18 15:59
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If so, can you beat my daily dosage......

Thiamine x 2
Bendroflumethiazide x 1
Amlodipine x 1
Amitriptyline x 3
Atorvastatin x 1

Your call.....

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By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 17 Feb 18 16:23
Lanzoprazole and paint fumes here.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 18 16:58
Looking at the statin on the end of the list, that reminds me why alcohol is bad for the heart.

Apparently it's responsible for producing loads of LDL along with fructose. Also the fatty acids produced by both causes insulin resistance which is stage 2 diabetes.

I suggest anyone on statins should stop drinking and cut out sugar as far as possible.

They should find their blood pressure coming down as a bonus.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 17 Feb 18 17:13
Dr Crippen you're well informed good post
I haven't drank for 11 months and eat very low sugar basically I've realised my health is the most important thing,gone are the abusive ways of filling in time avoiding doctors and hospitals etc. are first priority now
By:
moisok
When: 17 Feb 18 17:18
NHS -   just for starters -  diet for diabetics includes rice, potatoes, pasta, bread  - they are crazy - I bet you know the effect that has on BS  levels
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 17 Feb 18 17:28
Best to do your own research,you're spot on I know what I was like when I drank or ate carbs my heart rate used to go through the roof,my face would go scarlet and I'd be having adrenal rushes and sugar crashes for days.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Feb 18 17:29
wow!!!  good luck to you - the amazing thing is the resistance to low carb in the nhs
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 17 Feb 18 17:31
I used to play alot of darts and thought it was just nerves or pressure but really the pressure was my adrenal glands being burnt out.I'd imagine I was flooded with cortisol but it took til I was fairly drunk til I didn't feel the effects until I woke up the next day of course Crazy
By:
Emitdeb
When: 17 Feb 18 17:48
Fri.
1. 80mg Atorvasatin
1. 2.5mg Bisoprolol fumarate
1. 1.25mg Ramipril
1. 75mg Asprin

5 cans Fosters
3 Large Brandys
smidge of coke
1. 100mg Sildenafil
2. 500mg Paracetamol

Nice Day, Pleasant Evening.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 18 17:54
Moisok there are two camps of thought over that.

Obviously carbs turn to glucose and trigger insulin. So with fewer carbs, less insulin in needed to push the glucose into the receptors and bring down the sugar, and less medication is needed. That's a fact.

Yet when protein and fat are included with cars the insulin needed to get the glucose into the receptors goes right up. That is a fact as well.
The low carb merchants claim here is the reason for insulin resistance in the first place - the receptors are clogged with fat. 
So remove fat from the diet and the glucose goes in, and less insulin is needed.
They claim a plant based diet free from fat can reverse stage 2 diabetes in many cases.

There's a lot of controversy over the ideal diet for S2 diabetes.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 18 17:59
On the other side of the coin, fat does not trigger insulin.

The low carb merchants claim they can effectively treat diabetics with a low carb diet.

In both cases, losing weight gives each patient a flying start.
Whether a high fat, high protein diet is healthy in the long term is very dubious.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 18 18:01
Should be:
On the other side of the coin, fat does not trigger insulin if digested alone.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 18 18:03
The low carb merchants claim here is the reason for insulin resistance in the first place

I'm afraid I made a mess of that as well.

Should be ''low fat merchants.''
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 17 Feb 18 18:09
I went Keto for 3 months last year and if controlled properly with adequate Magnesium,Potassium,Sodium and water it will change the lives of almost everyone who is type 2 or pre diabetic.
Insulin and glucose get stabilised within a few days and you start using the visceral fat around your liver,pancreas,stomach etc which is inhibiting your insulin resistance.
To do this especially without lots of excercise you have to empty your glycogen stores which wont take more than 2 weeks then your liver can turn the fat into ketones which are used for fuel.When you're in this stage your liver feeds enough glucose to your brain and glycogen is stored in smaller amounts as your body can turn protein into glucose but is used efficiently when you're in ketosis.
I'm currently doing a low carb/ketogenic diet but as I'm excercising I'm having refeeds twice per week and I was sceptical about coming out of ketosis but it's working very well excercise wise.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 17 Feb 18 18:11
I take Omeprazole 20mg and am currently on a course of Naproxen (anti-inflammatory) as I've had shoulder surgery and it's still sore.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 17 Feb 18 18:15
SlippyBlue Naproxen works but when I was on them I started pooing blood my mother used to take them bbut she takes tablets (Lananzoprozole?) which protect her stomach and small intestines for all her medication.I was taking them with food.
Also I've found anti-inflammatories destroy your testosterone levels and I noticed big time when excercising on them but obviously if you're in pain you're gonna take whatever you can
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 18 18:24
Good post 18:09 Denzil.
I like the electrolytes.

Many try intermittent fasting to lose weight. I often skip meals if I'm not particularly hungry.

I'd like to add that my blood sugar has only ever gone into the pre-diabetes zone since I've been checking it, and that was when I ate a high fat/low carb diet.

I switched back to a starch based diet free of fat and my sugar count returned to normal.

I'm not knocking anything, just stating what happened to me.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 17 Feb 18 18:38
When I first came off Keto I found that I could use starch normally but what happened after a week or so I started to get my old aches and pains back.Unrelated I had an abcess flair up so I was drinking milk through a straw and eating mashed banana but I found after a day or so I wasn't hungry and this went on for about 12 days where I'd have  only a pint or so of milk and 2 bananas (plus anti-inflammatories and pain killers)
When I got my tooth sorted I decided to go low carb again and I'm feeling spot on with progression in excercise and no problems after refeeds,what has helped is better supplementation I take a good ZMA and vitamin D supplements which seem to be working.

The problem most people will get will be sugar withdrawal but that goes away after a couple of days with plenty electrolytes
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Feb 18 18:39
I've been prescribed a pill which my missus lets me take once a year on my birthday..................Viagra Mischief
By:
moisok
When: 17 Feb 18 18:39
I exercise well now too and feel so much better all round
Part of the reason low carb is seen as problematic is the nhs and doctors themselves
However SENSIBLE  low carb is good - but the otherside of the coin suggesting bread, potatoes, rice, pasta
any diabetic will tell you what happens to your BS levels two hours after eating meals like that.
A decent alternative to rice is cauliflower rice - so nowt wrong with that.
Veg is good of course and salad (although you would be surprised at even that)
eggs excellent - and bake cakes etc with alternatives to flour which is another processed evil

but we have had this debate before - steer clear of processed stuff
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 17 Feb 18 18:40
Forgot about this!

Had a foot injury that didn't want to heal and then became septic..

Had to gatecrash A&E a week last Sunday, in the hope that a nurse could clean it up, and put on a decent dressing.

Unfortunately none were available but, luckily, I saw a doctor who gave me a prescription for Flucloxacillin.
Also told me to go to my GP and have a nurse sort me out.

GP receptionist said I need to go to the hospital!!!!

Started taking them the following day but, after a few days, I was going mad with uncontrollable itching all over.

In the shower, I saw that I was totally covered in angry looking red spots, and my upper chest was all red.

Checked side effects, and that was one of them, and I still had three days to complete the course.

Spoke to my doctor, the following day, and she told me to stop taking them.

Ended up with the podiatrist who was cross that I wasn't referred straight to him!

Your life in their hands.....

Bonkers!
By:
moisok
When: 17 Feb 18 18:40
yes and you are quite right it is what suits the individual and getting back to normal.
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Feb 18 18:42
Seriously I take five a day three for the ticker and one for the arthritis Naproxen and the Lananzoproole. All this we're living longer bs NO we're being kept alive longer Sad
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 17 Feb 18 18:45
DenzilPenberthy, yes I have been told Naproxen can cause bleeding hence me taking Omeprazole first thing in the morning as well. It won't be for long hopefully that I have to take these as I never take tablets for anything normally.
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Feb 18 18:48
They reckon half an hours walking is better for your health than any pill they can prescribe you
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 18 18:54
Consider this:
With 30% of the fructose we eat ending up as fat, a high sugar diet is in fact a high fat diet.

Sugar is a carb, and high carb diets when compared to high fat diets always include sugar.

Yet there's no sugar at all in the high fat diet.

I believe sugar should be kept to a minimum in high carb diets as well.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 17 Feb 18 18:54
Ufcdan, I walk my Muttley three times a day and unless it's absolutely hissing down I'd cover about 8-10 miles every day and always feel better for a stroll in the park. I take him to the pub half way round for a livener for me and a doggie treat for him, a win win situation!
By:
moisok
When: 17 Feb 18 19:35
J  run up that hill to your bruv's pub a few times would keep anyone fit!!!
all the best
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 17 Feb 18 20:26
Dr Crippen when I'm on all out Keto I eat greens and berries for health and the general rule is you can include carbs in doses which don't knock you out of ketosis and fibre is taken off the sugar total (i.e aren't counted as sugar) 50g was stated as a good starting point,some people need less to stay in ketosis some get away with a bit higher.
It's possible to take pure glucose around excercise time and stay in ketosis as it doesn't get processed by your liver and goes straight into the bloodstream.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 17 Feb 18 20:27
Should've said that 50g was per day
By:
annie.
When: 17 Feb 18 20:39
I have rarely taken any drugs except for the odd painkiller. 

I think all these drugs are dangerous, they all have side effects and they have never been tested with other drugs together.

I think that a lot of suicides and crime can be put down to ordinary drugs that interfere with people's mental health.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 18 21:00
Yes Denzil, as I understand you can't have insulin present and fat burning at the same time.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 17 Feb 18 21:12
I saw a good Joe Rogan podcast about targetted eating which is similar to intermittent fasting,the woman on there was talking about getting all your food in like an 8 hour window.You aren't allowed anything outside the time frame that can be metabolized by the liver so only water no coffee etc.
I might give it a go on Keto when my excercise plateaus as at the minute I think I've got my diet right and don't want to spoil things.
Some of those podcasts are great if you ignore Joe and his mate and just listen to the guests.
The Victor Conte podcast is the most informative and interesting programme I've ever watched,superb
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 18 21:36
LFV, injuries that prove difficult to heal can indicate diabetes.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 18 21:45
This it Denzil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6KClPkotxM
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 17 Feb 18 21:46
cool
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Feb 18 22:07
Metformin
Atorvastatin
Lanzoprazole
Ramipril
Amlodipine
Amitryptiline
Topical Steroid creams


I could be on much stronger ones too, but I didn't want them.
Actually I don't take all the above every day either. I think it's just GP's dispensing instead of examining and doctoring.
I don't feel much better for most of them or much worse if I don't take them. My guess is that this applies to loads of us.
By:
Capt__F
When: 17 Feb 18 22:16
8 Aspall

works wonders

10 when the missus on one
By:
annie.
When: 17 Feb 18 22:17
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
black shuck
When: 18 Feb 18 00:46
Just a flakka or 2 at the weekends ExcitedCrazy
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