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If Labour got rid of Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott they'd win easily.
Those 3 are toxic. |
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The shrewdest political commentator I know has assured me that Labour will indeed remove Corbyn before the next election
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What about McDonnell?
He can't help himself when he has an audience. Saying democracy isn't working and we need 'direct' action. Must be the worst statement ever by an elected politician. |
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aka - agreed it's serious but cos it's not reported by MSM the unwashed are none the wiser.
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Do people really think that real change ever comes about by the will of Parliament, do you believe the Establishment and the money merchants will ever do anything for the good of the little people , you must be soft in the head if you believe such nonsense
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So you are a fan insurrection Anxious?
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You miss the point anxious.
Why is McDonnell an MP if he thinks like that? |
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Musca Domestica encompassing feculence.
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Did the the powers that be ever give working people rights , the right to strike , for holidays , for sick pay , votes for women etc , the only way this come about was by the Trade Union movement
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This clip where Nawaz explains the nature of McDonnell's comments should be made compulsive listening to everyone entering a polling booth
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/maajid-nawaz/maajid-nawaz-calls-out-john-mcdonnell-jacob/ The Labour party leadership disgusts me. |
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The poll tax how was that stopped?
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Like Corbyn all he's ever known is study, research and politics.
In other words career politician. Makes him a hypocrite. |
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The 1945 Labour Government was the greatest reforming Government ever, that only came when millions lost their lives
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If people want to believe the rubbish fed to them by the Tory Lie Machine then good luck to you
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They only lost their lives after one socialist movement got into power by sending brown shirted thugs onto the streets to intimidate,recognise any parallels ?
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Why have Labour got him in hiding just now?
Ashamed of his lynching comment? Must be a part of it. |
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Give us some examples anxious. Some specifics always helpful.
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Are you seriously saying the Corbyn and Mcdonnell are similar to the Third Reich ?
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The Nazis were famous for breaking up meetings.
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a bit of a demonstration and your comparing it to invading Poland , do you believe everything you read in the daily fail ?
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You say it didn't happen?
You saying McDonnell didn't encourage it? |
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I would not believe half the stuff written these days
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would not believe half the stuff written these days
Plenty of vids of McDonnell, 3 on here for starters. |
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Latest YouGov poll shows Labour dropping 4 points behind Conservatives-
Conservative - 43% Labour - 39% |
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Are you seriously saying the Corbyn and Mcdonnell are similar to the Third Reich ?
That's how it started anx, the trouble is once you start that off by encouraging violent protests during peaceful meetings it develops its own Momentum (!!!). |
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Absolute garbage
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Thats what the appeasers said in the 30's , no need for complacency when McDonnell speaks though.
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anxious refuses to acknowledge the faults in the Labour party.
He defended McDonnells comment about lynching a fellow MP. |
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Just watched a programme on the QE2, it highlighted all that would be wrong with a Corbyn/McDonnel world. Delay after delay building the ship, 18 different unions. Dispute after dispute. Sabotage to make the job last longer. High level of thieving etc etc. I'm old enough to remember those days and was Maggie to put an end to it. However I have to say I'm not overly impressed with corporate Britain either. It's a shame that there can't be a happy balance
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More of tories means - End of the NHS , more old and vulnerable people not getting the care and dignity they deserve, more rip off utilty firms,Not enough afforable housing , more zero hours contracts , less police on the streets, the Elites and the top 5 per cent get richer and richer etc
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If we had had control over our borders most of those problems wouldn't have occurred or got worse.
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the sale of plasma resources for a song to a company advised by party insider
highlites what is going on in this country whilst the tories keep their followers engaged in spurious attacks to divert their attention funny old world when folk are so gullible |
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Bain has paid £90m upfront for an 80% stake in PRUK, with a promise of a payment "expected to be worth £110m" in five years' time. The Department of Health, which keeps 20% of the company, said that PRUK's Elstree lab faced closure without Bain's promise to spend £50m upgrading its facilities.
Apart from the initial payment there is future investment guaranteed. What would have been a fair price? |
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how much did bain sell it for?
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I saw the selling price but that wasn't what I asked.
Read £90m for initial sale but then seen £230m quoted. Not sure how much was invested in facilities etc. |
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how much was invested, lol
its your money as much as mine these guys are giving away |
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I know that Donny but I thought you had all the facts at hand as you raised the subject.
The laboratories needed an initial investment of £50m, doesn't that count? |
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i do have the facts to hand
i noticed you did not post the amount they resold the company for after 3 years have the government not got 50 million to invest in themselves..... is a 50 million investment in our health service an excuse to sell stuff off on the cheap to companies employing tories as advisors ? |
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But you suggested there was no investment.
You still haven't answered my question. In the 3 years they owned it what investments did they make? Not defending this but it's always handy to have all the facts. BTW was the advisor involved in the government department who authorised the sale? off on the cheap to companies employing tories as advisors ? It does appear overly cheap but for info they also employ Labour advisors. |
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i never suggested that, i was laughing at your defence of your tory mates
and teresa refusing to rule out further sales to sweeren a deal with trumpy where is heed in hands man? |