350 table mens only charity night

scrub that it, mis read your post

donny osmond    26 Jan 18 10:31 
350 cameras might knock a hole in charity money

it turned over 600k a few years back and showed a profit of about 10k for charity

the running costs may need some scrutiny,



Agree with that, I thought the total paid over the years seemed remarkably low.

seen a load of school kids this morning boy, girl holding each others hands walking down the road,by the time they leave school and been brow beaten by the snowflakes ,we,ll be lucky if its legal to walk on the same side of the road as women never mind hold hands

Imagine being that unsure about how to behave yourself with a woman. I wonder what the parents of some people taught their kids frankly.

Sadly PP alot of parents tell them absolutely nothing which leads to problems. A lot see abuse in the home which leads to problems.

to be consistent I,m wondering why there isn't outrage and calls for  our woman PM ,holding hands,shaking hands,making, inviting him to our country to make cosy deals with a known sexist racist,mysoginist,when theres call for mp,s to resign for been in the same room as men who may or may not have acted in a sexist manner

Most young men I know are very respectful towards women, far more so than when I was young. Evolution is working, trying to change everyone's behaviour overnight will not.

LOL,YOUNG PEOPLES PHONES SOCIAL MEDIA accounts, are brimming with explicit sex scenes, sex tests most of which they havnt got permission of their partners,friends to either take or use, I,d say 90% of young people of both sexes would not want to show their parents some of the images on their social mediua,phones etc, but they have no problem csalling older men cavemen,dinosaurs etc

Exactly. Huge part of a parent's job is preparing your kid for adulthood. The idea of teaching that rape and abuse is bad is obviously a given but I can imagine the kids of some posters on here being confused by the message that they need to be very careful when interacting with the opposite sex. Stay on the opposite side of the road, just in case etc. How the hell are these kids going to function with that kind of upbringing? How difficult is it really to simply teach your kids to be respectful and well mannered.

Shining a light on bad behaviour is simply part of the same process. A major part of punishment for a crime is for it to act as a deterrent to others who may have been thinking to copy it. There'll always be blerts but let's not make excuses for them.

In what way is our generation, or the younger generation more respectful to woman than the previous generation or our grandparents generation or even generations before that ?

Is the thought that this event showed bad/unacceptable behavior or illegal behavior?

For instance saying your wife could look like this if you buy plastic surgery. Is this unacceptable?

I think many women here were repressed when I was young, rather like Islamic women still are. We have changed for the better imo.

in what way were women repressed in Britain in our fathers and grandfathers generation ?

I don't recall that in any experience in any part of life within living memory and before

A generation or two ago many young men were taught things like to help women out of cars, walk on a certain side of the pavement with them etc.
Now we've teensage boys demanding girls send them pictures of their intimates on their mobiles or they're bully them that they're prudes and uncool, and young men demanding wierd s*x they've seen on the internet.
I think the snowflake media when they say the younger generation are so much better than those before, are confusing their own total dominance of the media with the reality on the ground.

This whole thing stinks of latest witch hunt, the whole "some are bad so they are all bad and we don't need facts or a trial, let's lynch them" attitude.
And intelligent women are seeing this and pointing this out as well. We are now lurching from moral panic to moral panic.

My mother still insists that I walk beside her on the right side : )

That's nice , I do as she says . It's polite politeness is a delight

spot on checking

There was a generally accepted mapping out of their lives from a young age lfc, now they can do whatever appeals.

When was that saddo , when ? I can't remember .

Before most of em learned to drive tbf.

JC,
It is not just young men demanding things they have seen online. Latest surveys suggest women watch almost as much as men and are more likely to search for things you might call 'weird'.
The days of women just being told it is only for men to enjoy are long since over.

as littlejohn says today did anyone tell the raging Yvette that whislt she was in meltdown in the commons her husband was in the playboy area of Miami cavorting with 2 trumpettes in the name of television entertainment,cooper cant even wear the trousers in her own house ,never mind trying to bow beat the rest of the country with her hypocritical feminist outbursts,that not even her husband former chancellor listens to, think Yvette needs to start closer to home,wonder if she,ll ban their kids from watching daddy cavorting with a couple of blondes on tv

The room goes quiet

Corbyn has sacked Lord Mendelsohn from Labour front bench for attending the event on behalf of a children's charity.

He did not see anything that went on and left early.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lord-mendelsohn-sacked-preside...

everyone left early hotess,s cleaned up on drink and doggy bags

I this more anti semitism from Corbyn, wrapped up as something else?

I note just checking mentioning  'moral panic'

Anyone remember the mods and rockers and the guy getting knifed in brighton

where did that go  ?

It was another 'moral panic'  - wonder what the next one will be

but there never seems to be one over the rochdale incidents and there have been so many of them

what do they teach them in blackburn and rochdale?

lie back and think of paradise

I see Great Ormand street hospital to hand back money raised, it must give the parents of a young kiddie waiting for a life changing operation so much pride ? While their at it why not hand the government back the proportion of tax that was collected from weapons manufacturers who sold weapons to the Saudis that where used to blow up Yemeny kids...............where do you draw the line ? As I'm sure it's been mentioned here it's a shame the same morale outrage wasn't exacted regarding the young girls of Rochdale who where subjected to far worse than a slap on the bum. Thought I'd waste half an hour of my life and watched the Mash report, good old Nish Kumar's take was about a club where only men where allowed and how sad it was, now I'm an atheist but my late wife was religious so occasionally I would attend church with her especially at the time of my kids communions. As far as my memory serves men AND women prayed side by side............over to you Nish and while I'm having a rant about said Mr Kumar it appeared to be missed by the outraged public regarding him calling Piers Morgan a White privileged person covered in gammon ! Now he's mentioned the race and given certain sectors in our societies view on pork I'm surprised no one found it offensive! Now if he had just said PM was a total pr1ck I wouldn't of had any issue with that stand point

Hopefully GOS are going examine every single donation they receive.

Dave, Donny and PP getting their knickers in a twist over what they think happened yet had not a word in condemnation for a Shadow cabinet minister talking about lynching a fellow mp.

Holy sh!t Dan.

Your attempt at defending it amounts to "what about Rochdale" and having a pop at Islam.


I mean I won't be unoriginal and call your post unbelievably stupid but for God's sake man why not try to be a bit less boring.

Where did he have a pop at islam and why would you be bothered about that ?

Typical deflection PP.
I simply ask why this event has you all hot and bothered.
Yet you fail to condemn other, and much worse serious, events.
in fact some may say even condone by your silence.

akabula     26 Jan 18 20:50 
Dave, Donny and PP getting their knickers in a twist over what they think happened yet had not a word in condemnation for a Shadow cabinet minister talking about lynching a fellow mp

The forum's undisputed king of whataboutery.

Oops missed Dans name in PPs post.

That is a pointless post.

Good deflection from you Dave and I repeat what I said.
I simply ask why this event has you all hot and bothered.
Yet you fail to condemn other, and much worse serious, events.
in fact some may say even condone by your silence.

Not whataboutery Dave just a simple request for understanding.

All this faux outrage about a puny event where things like hand holding (shock horror) happened. Just shows there's a bigger agenda at play here. It ties in with all that #metoo stuff as well. So what's really going on?

we get enough threads to condemn abuse

i dont see you defending others aka, why defend these ones


no abuse tonite though !

I'm bothered by stupidity ib. Have a pop at Islam all you like. But at least try to be one of correct, interesting or funny. Otherwise it's just boring, unoriginal and dull.

He  posted well on the rotherham fred where you were much wanted, i think you posted twice on 700 fred.

We can never ever get enough to condemn abuse, clearly you have a number and want to turn it into personal abuse rather than rape, on a epidemic scale.

Donny please reproduce a post where I've defended this.
I know very little about the event but you, dave and PP seem to be in the know.
Now as regards lynching you refused to condemn that comment.
Makes me wonder how one has outraged you but the more serious hasn't.

Aka moaning about people being outraged about this (I'm not as it happens - think it's a page 13 story that's been picked up by the pc brigade who want blood) but failing to read the 75% of posts from his red-faced, curtain twitching, apoplectic  chums outraged that people are talking about this rather than Rochdale or anything else that didn't paint rich white men in a bad light.

Pineapple, you posted words, you never went into the Islam hatred ?

If they are stupid, then call them out ffs.

They're stupid because they're irrelevant. Him being Muslim or not don't make his words any more or less correct.

Is Kumar not allowed to voice an opinion because some brands of Islam in some parts of the world treat women poorly?

Tried to decipher pp post, he is basically saying rochdale didnt happen. ?

No. Read again and try harder this time.

So you're happy with O'Donnells abusive conduct but angry about what you think others did at this event.

what?  I dgaf about o'donnell and don't vote labour, why would I take any interest in what he's meant to have said?  Even if I did its utterly irrelevant to this thread.

was odonnell at the fundraiser, or is akabula twisting like a tisty thing on a twister ?

and in doing so defending these abusers

Why do i need to try harder ? I have never had a pop at islam but you felt to attack me with that agenda.

Every single post you make is from the 80's, do we need to know we have moved on or is someone a little bitter ?

I have a feeling you feel repented and are bitter.

Only trying to get an understanding of your rage donny (and dave).
And trying to put it into perspective with other, and much more serious, events that haven't troubled you as much.

rage ' lol

is that another deflection

carry on defending these abusers

Eh?

Seriously. Eh?

And what is feel repented when it's at home?

ha ha "rage" what a clown

donny putting all his experience as a troll into use here.

oh abuse again, ....

...................... whilst dave simply resorts to abuse.
Anyways I'm off to play poker (hope yer on tonight dave I need the money )
And you guys stay alert for another bandwagon may be along soon.

A load of old Slappers with their Kaks exposed and the Rest ,Best way the Old boys are having a wxnk ,some have obviously got carried away ,Not condoning it ,but what was expected to happen ??

Absolute Non Story .Perhaps if a bit more attention were paid to Women who are sexually assaulted by Certain people when they are going about their daily Buisness ,Such as on the Tube,taxi,s  Etc we might get Somehere .....

Of course its best not to mention such incidents .....

Teams of Rapists in Towns up and down the Country  ...

Indeed case. They were asking for it. I'm sure you'd agree.

So PP do you think they were caught unawares?
Surely we cannot just condemn the men who behaved badly.
We know some of the girls have worked this event before.
I would also think those there for the first time would have been told what to expect by the returning girls.

Women go out in short dresses in Cologne , get hands up their knickers , and it is an outrage

Women go out in short dresses in London , get hands up their knickers , and it is ' well they were wearing short dresses ! , they knew what they were in for ' etc

Chit Chat logic

The woman who gave this 'tip off' to the undercover reporter to go and investigate was probably a jealous munter who didn't get any feels.

Tobes logic at 0257

I dont know of any woman that served at this gentlemans night got hands up knickers, as you put it.

You going to prove your claim or just use it as a flawed argument ?

Their was over 600 sexual assaults in Cologne

A total of 1075 criminal complaints have been made to police over the Cologne attacks ,
including 467 alleging crimes of a sexual nature including rape and also violence and theft

Any crime committed should be reported to the police and investigated . No one would disagree with that

ROCHDALE

By his logic the girls were asking for it in Rochdale.

Was there flirtatious behaviour between some of the men and some of the women ? It's possible , why not ?
That can be in the whole spirit of the event , ok most of these men will be married and it may be distasteful but that's life
Men are like that , women are like that .

The agency that supplied the waitresses is definitely not the one who does the catering at redcar racecourse.

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btw in case I didn't make this clear, I don't have any objection to strip clubs, regulated brothels or any other related activity.  My entire distaste with this event is rich powerful "puffed up middle aged men" - employers and society's leaders - as a group, indulging in demeaning behaviour and incidentally feeling the need to use ndas to keep everything "in the room".

^

Its ok for  rich powerful "puffed up middle aged men" to pay to to get women to exactly what they want in brothels just because they have the money to pay?

lfc, I think it was (mostly) that kind of thing. And If a man crosses the line what's wrong with the woman handling the situation herself?

We have the illogical situation where we say women are equal to men and yet they're so weak and feeble that they need protecting from men and they're totally incapable of protecting themselves. It's bull sheet

I think a lot of the women will be hopping mad that this event has been cancelled , just my opinion

akabula    Joined:  26 Jan 18 22:03 
...................... whilst dave simply resorts to abuse.
Anyways I'm off to play poker (hope yer on tonight dave I need the money

For those watching at home, akabula doesn't know me and has never played poker with me. However he persists with a strange recurring fantasy that he does.

James O'Brien on LBC compares the outrage over Cologne (where only 3 refugees were involved) with the lack of outrage over this event and Donald Trump.

All did the same thing he says so we should react to stories the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGys7qb_iaU

Only a pathological idiot would equate the rapes and assaults in Cologne with a bit of brushing up against a waitress in a well lit room with loads of witnesses.

*if any brushing up occurred, I never saw any footage.

he says 'the Presidents Club where young women were repeatably molested on an industrial scale by wealthy white men'.

Good, the more foolish his outbursts the sooner people will realise what an arse he is.

* correction that should be 'reportedly'

'the Presidents Club where young women were REPORTEDLY molested on an industrial scale by wealthy white men'.

1, this was for charity,most of these men probably had better things to do and attended because they,d promised to go at an earlier date
2, none of these men would have been salivating all week ,waiting for a chance to commit so called sexual assaults,harassment
3,the 350 men didn't provide the entertainment.they,d have all turned up if the organisers had turned it into a race night

"James O'Brien on LBC is a total d1ck".
Fixed that for you. As soon as you read the name you know what to expect.
I don't even listen to LBC but I saw enough of him ruining newsnight to know he's a smug thick leftie sphincter.

James O'Brien on LBC compares the outrage over Cologne (where only 3 refugees were involved) with the lack of outrage over this event and Donald Trump.

If this is true,it must be one of the more stupid comments to have been made by the media commentators.

I must have missed the lack of outrage over this event and Donald Trump :)

I do remember however the BBC ignoring the cologne story for days, then reporting it but deliberately not mentioning the perpetrators when for virtually everyone else that was the main aspect, then the Guardian running an article blaming the West for such incidents as we weren't doing enough to educate migrants about not attacking women.

'Darts: PDC to scrap walk-on girls after broadcaster talks'

Walk-on girls will no longer be used by the Professional Darts Corporation (PDC) after talks with broadcasters.

The long-established practice of women escorting male players to the stage will be abandoned, starting with this weekend's Masters in Milton Keynes.

... The Women's Sport Trust tweeted: "We applaud the Professional Darts Corporation moving with the times and deciding to no longer use walk-on-girls. Motor racing, boxing and cycling....your move."'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/42841620

^

The agenda moves on.

Ludicrous

You'll only be able to watch bloke on bloke porn soon.

What is wrong with people (whatever sex) being allowed to decide for themselves what they're willing to do to earn a living???

F1 Grid girls could go also:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05r3xtz

Be interesting to see if the day comes when women (and men) dressed in less than full clothing can be used in any adverts.

Brilliant militant feminists talking themselves out of jobs,many women rely on waitressing and modeling at hotels and shows
to earn a living.
Less chance of hooking a rich partner as well.
You couldn't  make it up.
Professional suicide imho, however silly self serving so called journalist starts storm in a tea cup.
As Jimmy Tarbuck says better ban hen parties as well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-42827799/presidents-club-hostess-girls-offered-nannying-jobs

This women here says she worked there.

She said some of the girls were sitting on men's laps and taking business cards.

When she got home her mum called the police but nothing they could do.

Even though her mum called the police last year the lady in the video decided to do the event again this year.

All current rape cases to be 'urgently' reviewed over disclosure fears
.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42841346

Taking womens' accounts as gospel perhaps?

InsiderTrader    27 Jan 18 13:32 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-42827799/presidents-club-hostess-girls-offered-nannying-jobs

Even though her mum called the police last year the lady in the video decided to do the event again this year.




You couldn't make it up 

As Stated turn it Round , Male waiters in Skimpy Dress and 350 Women their would be Plenty of Arse slapping and Pinching ,a mob of Pished up women are worse then Men,Far worse .....

Plenty of these Quite little women sitting round  our Houses would Love a Chippendale waiter Evening

Rather than sitting around Looking at us Cxnts

^^^^^
Why copy/paste a Phil Neville tweet of 3 years ago?

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