Labour..the racist party

Facts correct, desperate indeed. They moan about BAME citizens not getting involved in British society and when Labour try to assist their integration and improve their undoubted skills, the knives are out again.

A Labour spokesman said: ‘The basic price of a conference pass is the same for all members but, at the request of our East Midlands Regional Board, the party will subsidise part of the cost of this year’s conference pass for BAME members to encourage attendance and improve representation.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5293083/Jeremy-Corbyn-faces-race-row...

No link from Facts, until he does supply one I'll ignore his claim.

If I ran a boarding house and I put up a sign outside saying ''25% discounts for whites.''

How would I get on?

^^So what's the difference in that to what the labour party have done?

It's clearly illegal and there should be a police investigation.

Facts attempting to justify the out and out discrimination against  white Labour members....Pitiful.

Yes he's obviously made it up from what the Labour spokesperson said.

cooperman...however you dress it up what Labour have done/doing is disgraceful.This should be headline news on every media outlet but of course..it wont be.

Of course it's racist, it's treating people differently in a material way according to their race. No surprise Facts the apologist can't see it that way.

BBC news didn't mention this? If there were a 25% reduction for white people to Tory, UKIP or a Trump rally however, we can all be 100% sure it would be doing itself an injury in snowflake fury. Could you imagine Channel 4 and the BBC not covering it if Trump had done that for white people?

they also divide women and men at their nice cuddle up meets to get more lab votes from the 'community'
sexist as well as racist

better not mention LGBT in bradford or blackburn either  ho ho!!!

Oh the righteous indignation. I'm sure you will all be boycotting the rally in protest.

If they want to integrate then why do they have separate committees/societies/parties etc.

Surely one would cover all?

voted against women's groups when they first introduced it at our local CLP  - we are supposed to be working people not separate black, asian, sex based groups   - it is simply divisive

''Equality watchdogs are looking at whether Labour broke the law by offering discounted rally tickets to black and minority ethnic members.''

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42783246

''The Equalities and Human Rights Commission said it had received a complaint from a Tory MP.

Labour said the reduced rate was meant to "improve representation".

So much for Facts' explanation.

The same people will have similar policies when it comes to housing and employment etc
Very dangerous mindset

When a political party attempts to speak for and appeal to a section of society based on race or colour that in itself is a very dangerous thing for any country

Thanks for bringing this item up twizzle have been on about it myself

I agree with moisok, divisive stuff. The SJWs have distanced themselves from the term 'positive discrimination' lately, now favouring 'positive action' instead.

A truly remarkable story which gives the illusion of racism.

However I'm siding with Facts and Cooperman by saying the discount is entitled.

BAME (?) people need help. As I look around this Sphere we call Earth, they persistently choose poverty above wealth and need all the assistance they can get.

Where can I donate to subsidise them further?

No illusion Injera 100% racism imo

Feckin obsessed these days, race, blacks etc and gays. All you hear, day in day out. Embarrassing state of affairs for a once great country.

divisive - set up little groups for every iddy biddy cause etc and then set them on the majority putting them right on the defensive
if you speak out against it you are a waycyst  homophobic islamaphobe etc

although they cannot get me as I am a slippery soaking wet fully signed up fluider!!!

simple

Desperation to clutch at ANY straw however vague or twisted, if it runs down Labour or Corbyn.
With never a hint of criticism for the current government, no matter what they do - however blatantly wrong or bad it might be.
Working on the principle that if you say it often enough or loud enough - preferably both - it'll be true.

This applies to both the Daily Mail and this forum

Next up,lighter sentences for blacks,muslims and working class crooks because they came from disadvantaged backgrounds ? Just as logical in the Labour mindset. Treat everyone the same but strive to create equal opportunities through education and integration must be the aim. It takes time.

in some cases treetop this has already happened.  Ramadan the latest excuse

Oh dear.

Breaking News suggests Labour may have had a little re-think about this catastrophically badly-judged initiative after all, following a minimum of pressure from the EHRC.

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https://order-order.com/2018/01/23/labour-hikes-ethnic-minority-ticket-prices/

yet another thinly-veiled hatred of ethnic minorities thread

Labour breaking the law ?

twizzle - forgive my sarcasm!

There are many towns where they will not be minorities for too many years. Will they then be expected to discriminate in favour of whites?

To make up the shortfall perhaps Labour can charge the Jewish Labour community( if there are any) an extra tenner.Another brilliantly thought out initiative by Corbyn's crazy gang.

Labour policy laid bare I'd say.

Although we shouldn't be surprised, they've hardly made a secret of pandering to minority groups in order to get their votes.

What beats me is why their traditional core voters keep supporting them.

note how the defenders try to shut down debate and deflect with the usual waycist allegations

you would think they could find a better tactic

I'm pretty close to what you would call a core Labour voter although last election voted UKIP. I'm against inequality which I consider Tories to be in favour of. I'm also against positive discrimination which is becoming all too prevalent and which this seems to be another example of.

If  I practised positive discrimination like in the example I gave earlier, by advertising a 25% discount to people who were white, they'd send the riot squad around to arrest me.

So what's the difference between that and what Labour have done here?

Surely the only ones who should be concerned would be white Labour members who want to attend the rally.

And the Police of course, because racial discrimination is illegal.

You will get no reasoned argument Dr C .Contrition amongst the left leaning characters on this forum is sadly absent.

I consider myself left leaning but not sure if this is the right thread or right forum - Politics is more appropriate. I agree what they did was wrong.

Oh dear oh dear.

Does this really need to be spelt out ?

I'll make it simple :-


People pay membership to BAME labour & its this organisation choosing to subsidise tickets for their members ...NOT the Labour party .

Get it ??!

I thought  skweeming waycyst was the preserve of the loony part of the party?  However, if this had been ukip or a tory event you lot would have been all over it

I find this thread too male, pale and stale.

moisok    23 Jan 18 20:22 
I thought  skweeming waycyst was the preserve of the loony part of the party?  However, if this had been ukip or a tory event you lot would have been all over it



Indeed, people complaining about a ploy most of them use on a daily basis. They don't like it up em.

Facts
Fake News.
BAME is a legitimate membership.
Functions always offer discounts to certain factions of Society.
Shall we claim organisations are ' ageist ' when they reduce prices for ' under 18's ' or ' over 60's'
A nothing news story from the Daily Fail. Must be desperate .

Haven't read full thread so apologies if point already made.
Reason for those discount Facts is that generally people in those brackets will be low earners whilst in this instance .......... well you tell us.
Facts at his best and supporting racism against white people.

STUDYFORM is a laugh.

He's racist blind when Labour behave in a racist way. ''positively discriminatory events are not illegal.''

Yet first in the queue to call anyone else a racist if they display the merest hint of discrimination towards his own pet group.

Eh STUDY?

Tell me when crappin, I have EVER called anyone a racist.
I haven't. Not ever.
I also said I don't agree with positive discrimination, but feel free to take stuff out of context to prove your nonsensical point if you want.
Oh, you have!
Still if it helps you suck up to your sad loser mate on youtube. Eh CRIPPEN?

What pet group, btw? I don't have a pet group, I just like pulling you up on your ridiculousness.


Akabula, if you can't understand a reasonably simple sentence and just feel like a little argue, that's your problem.
I'm not playing, I'm off to bed - with you it's like an old record with a scratch.

This is the 1st of my posts on this thread which was removed

Like you, Charlie, I think most sensible people of every political persuasion can see how useless and divisive positive discrimination is.
But, if you read this thread.....

......every part of Labour and all their supporters and anyone leaning towards Labour, is racist and "positively discriminatory".
Crippen in clover here and all the other regulars in tow.
Even if the Mail had a point - which it doesn't - why would this news bother you?
Surely the only ones who should be concerned would be white Labour members who want to attend the rally.

The big outpouring of indignation could be saved for something vaguely important, couldn't it?

Some of you need to take a long hard look at yourselves and do something else.
Really.

I can only imagine the sort of people who are getting these posts taken down and am at a complete loss to understand the workings of moderators who obey the report requests.

Can anyone see anything which infringes any rules in the above post?

TO BETFAIR FORUM : WHY DID YOU REMOVE THE ABOVE POST?

some people don't seem to care if the Labour Party break the law and are racist ,
that's not good .

Yes lfc, racism to them only works one way.

A joke cracked in a pub with race as its theme coming from a white person, is tantamount to condoning the holocaust in their eyes.

Yet in a clear case like we have here, of the Labour party discriminating in favour of black people over white people, which is pure racism. Then they think the rules don't apply.

Why was it done ? , I think it was done to create an illusion
well that's dishonest and in a way this is why the Labour Party and many of its members cannot be trusted

Let's se if anyone is prosecuted for breaking the law or sacked from the Labour Party

They will be determined to continue with these very same racist policies in housing and jobs etc if they should ever get into power ,
remember that next time there is an election

That's already evident now lfc with certain groups being pushed to the front of the queues.
Like jobs at the BBC, and housing with certain councils if the reports are to be believed.

They absolutely stink with hypocrisy.

For the many Muslims not the few Jews.

The last 8 posts...applause applause.

Not only labour the establishment have an agenda.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/695312/BBC-seeking-researcher-Panorama-only-apply-ethnic-minority

Let's try again shall we ?

For those that can read ......

BAME made the decision to offer the reduction in entrance price to their members.

Not the Labour Party

Geddit now ???!!

Then is BAME racist for not having any white members?

FACTS - that doesn't appear to be the case. According to this the NEC are subsidising:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42783246


The Labour Party said subsidised passes for the event, in Loughborough, were being paid for from the national executive committee's Democracy and Diversity fund.

A regional Labour Party spokesman said: "The basic price of a conference pass is the same for all members but, at the request of our East Midlands Regional Board, the party will subsidise part of the cost of this year's conference pass for BAME members to encourage attendance and improve representation."

party members like Facts  will just not accept the things wrong inside our party

Facts will surely now have to resign from the Labour Party, given the disgraceful and tawdry revelations of the last few days.

He can't possibly want to be associated with discrimination.

Unless it's positive discrimination which apparently isn't discrimanatory at all.

The real problem is Labour leadership and their cronies are full of the guardianista liberals who usually have very well paid public sector positions and believe everyone else is as well off as them,and if they are white and can afford the extra tenner without a care.They are out of touch with the working class and most of them wouldn't recognise one if they met one.

I agree treetop,
The modern Labour Party has been described as the Notting Hill dinner party set.
They have little time for working class people.

Everybody seems to know this except the working classes who vote for them.

Head. wall, banging.

The current Government are as appalling as the Labour opposition.The only party who WERE in touch with the common man was UKIP.However UKIP are now dead in the water so where does that leave us?..I'll tell you where..up the old proverbial creek without a paddle.

imo. The current govt is the worst I have ever seen, the PM is the weakest. UKIP were never a party able or equipped to govern, although they DID make a difference.
It might be reasonable to say the Labour opposition are as bad, but not until they've been proven to have been as bad. Which they haven't.

So much time is spent justifying everything the Tories do with "well, Labour would be worse" or dredging up pointless little stories like the one on this thread, instead of rectifying faults, that many people believe it.

The previous Labour govt is gone. It was 'New Labour' and was also appalling, but was finished nearly 8 years ago. Nothing has got better.
If you look hard (not very) it is equally easy to find nonsense stories, among the big ones about the govt.
as I say
imo.

Well done though twizzle, bucking the trend under duress!

if the tory lot had done  it - or ukip - use lot would have been all over it along with the usual shrieking mob from the gruniad and lily allen

hope this helps

would it?
I reckon there would have been less outpouring of indignation from the usual shrieking mob on here though wouldn't there.

Do you really think anyone takes any notice of Lily Allen. Not that your assertion is anything other than loose conjecture, like nearly everything on here.

as I said  - if it had been ukip or tory - you lot would have been all over it along with the baying mob

Study @ 1840 spot on.

Is it fair to say we're in a bit of bovver?

I don't have a 'lot' and no, I wouldn't (for one), moisok.
In fact, I think you'll find most stories like this on the forum tend to follow the same path as this one:
-"Look at what Labour/Corbyn/other Labour MP have done, imagine the outcry if it had been the other way round" etc etc etc blah blah blah-7

My responses on here are to the stupid posts, not in defence of anything in the story.

As for ukip, nothing they say will ever really gain any response from me. They are entirely insignificant.
The only reason you hear anything from Ukip is because some hacks from the press hope to sell a story and follow them round.

Yes Injera, I believe we are. Thanks for asking.

I believe that years of privatisation, commercialisation, globalisation, positive discrimination, importing the worst of American values, too much advertising, unvaried policy, social media, incredibly unfair distribution of wealth (I'm not talking about the well-off, I mean the mega rich), selfish politicians, giving money to banks and so on have put us in loads of bovver and I'm not sure we can recover quickly or easily.

The current govt is the worst I have ever seen

In your opinion, what specific actions have they taken which has made the country a worse place to live in?

I am inclined to think the Callaghan government may have been far worse SF,rotten and weak.

''The Balfour declaration''
Does that ring a bell?

That was to STUDYPORN.

Jan 24, 2018 -- 8:18PM, STUDYFORM wrote:

Yes Injera, I believe we are. Thanks for asking. I believe that years of privatisation, commercialisation, globalisation, positive discrimination, importing the worst of American values, too much advertising, unvaried policy, social media, incredibly unfair distribution of wealth (I'm not talking about the well-off, I mean the mega rich), selfish politicians, giving money to banks and so on have put us in loads of bovver and I'm not sure we can recover quickly or easily.

StudyForm

I think that is a very good post.

I was going to say you could have gone further but that would have been churlish.

The government is not being helped by the British people . May could be a very good pm , but she needs someone like Tebbit alongside her to push radical measures and reforms through .
Of course the usual suspects won't give her a chance

The elected government should not fear to show itself as an oppressor of Corbyn and the mob that surrounds him

Time for a reality check , Britain is broke

Now in the meantime , don't believe a word that Corbyn says on any given subject , he's a liar

And he , and other labour supporters and members are telling lies on this very issue of racism

And up until the point that someone within the Labour Party loses their job over this and there is a police inquiry into it , then I suggest don't allow yourself to believe anything else
Because when it comes to e.g. redundancies and whether you are made redundant or a member of some ethnic  minority is ,
then they will be looking at quotas , and how it will appear , and the possibility accusations of racism ..
And then you have no job , that's how this goes

Thanks for the heads up lfc.

you're welcome

I believe that years of privatisation, commercialisation, globalisation, positive discrimination, importing the worst of American values, too much advertising, unvaried policy, social media, incredibly unfair distribution of wealth (I'm not talking about the well-off, I mean the mega rich), selfish politicians, giving money to banks and so on have put us in loads of bovver and I'm not sure we can recover quickly or easily.

Could you explain how Labour will do things better?

Nope.

I'm sure someone on here can help us.

Your post to inferred to me they could, my bad. Plenty on here spout Labour sh1te perhaps they can answer the question.

Actually, thinking about it, it's a silly thing to ask me.
2 generations of damage is a lot to ask for anyone to fix.

Saying - My lot can do it better than your lot all the time is not an answer to anything.

Given that you consider anything Labour says is **** would render ANY kind of answer pointless.
I consider the current government to be completely useless, so I guess any attempt to try to convince me they'll fix the mess would be equally pointless.

My feelings on who should do what are not important.

As are the feelings of everyone else on here, but everyone has forgotten this and would rather get into great big political arguments.

In fairness that's a very good post with which I agree.

Because when it comes to e.g. redundancies and whether you are made redundant or a member of some ethnic  minority is ,

Which is why I've argued so long for the repeal of the Race Relations Act.
It's nothing more than a tool for opportunists to claim damages that aren't justified.

More importantly the reason why ethnic job seekers get shunned by private companies.

You've argued for it for so long, WHY aren't they listening?

STUDYPORN,
You're not so upset with me that you can't address me now without sticking silly little faces on the end of your sentences.

Tut tut.

That's better STUDYPORN, no silly faces, just your usual silly post.