Is it really plausible they managed to elevate huge stones up onto other huge standing stones 5000 years ago and for no apparent reason? not to mention the fact they originated in South West Wales, transportation then would have taken years ?
Or where they really just constructed much more recently?
I thought about the elevation of the stones. Use some sort of rope to pull the upright ones upright. Then put loads of mud and soil up to the top, maybe starting a couple of hundred yards or more away, then drag/roll the topping stone up the new muddy ramp. The get rid of the mud and soil. That's how I'd have done it anyway. So yes 5,000 years ago well possible. I can't explain how they got the stones there from south Wales though.
I thought about the elevation of the stones.Use some sort of rope to pull the upright ones upright. Then put loads of mud and soil up to the top, maybe starting a couple of hundred yards or more away, then drag/roll the topping stone up the new muddy
probably the most overrated visitor attraction in the UK, £16.50 entrance to walk around, takes about 2 minutes, cannot get anywhere near the stones. Agree it's fascinating how they got there and what they might mean but how boring.
probably the most overrated visitor attraction in the UK, £16.50 entrance to walk around, takes about 2 minutes, cannot get anywhere near the stones. Agree it's fascinating how they got there and what they might mean but how boring.
I feel embarrassed when driving past on the busy A303. Tourists wandering around in a circle not quite sure what they're looking at. I've heard the new 'Visitor Centre' is pretty good though.
I feel embarrassed when driving past on the busy A303. Tourists wandering around in a circle not quite sure what they're looking at. I've heard the new 'Visitor Centre' is pretty good though.
Seems more logical to me that the stone formation was constructed in the last few hundred years rather than 5000 years ago? then again the Egyptian Pyramids blows that theory out of the water, they managed to transport thousands of limestone rocks from hundreds of miles south of the Nile to their location thousands of years ago to, amazing what they were able to achieve with such basic technology.
This conspiracy theorist is not having it either way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjmY5zak28o
Seems more logical to me that the stone formation was constructed in the last few hundred years rather than 5000 years ago? then again the Egyptian Pyramids blows that theory out of the water, they managed to transport thousands of limestone rocks fr
Julian Cope points out how late the monument was in terms of the culture which built it. It's a final, massive, in-yer-face flourish. He suggests the reason the builders chose such a monumental scale, and went to all the trouble of transporting the stones so far, was just to say to everyone, look at what we can do! Basically, they did it because they could.
As to its purpose, it was surely an observatory and a means of measuring time. By making the artificial horizon completely immovable via these massive stones, it would have been a kind of stable, atomic clock of its day.
As Caesar tells us in The Gallic Wars, astronomy and the measurement of time were among the sciences studied by the Britons, and Stonehenge, constructed in that area so rich in flints for tools and thus the centre of its civilization, was presumably its number-one university.
Or it might be something else.
Julian Cope points out how late the monument was in terms of the culture which built it. It's a final, massive, in-yer-face flourish. He suggests the reason the builders chose such a monumental scale, and went to all the trouble of transporting the s
If only schools still taught Latin, so everyone got to read Caesar's Gallic Wars (De Bello Gallico). We'd appreciate what a centre of European civilization ancient Britain was, and understand how crucial this henge technology was for the study of not just the starts and planets, but also meteorology and geography. Caesar commenting on the great schools of Britain:
They lecture on the stars in their motion, the magnitude of the Earth and its divisions, on natural history, on the power and government of God; and instruct the youth in these subjects (see De Ballo Gallico, VII, 15, 16.).
He also found that the Britons were using the Greek alphabet, and worshipped the same gods as the Romans - Jupiter, Minerva etc.
This tradition of Britain as a centre of European education went back a long, long way, to before Caesar's time. The historian Isabel Hill Elder:
The students at these colleges numbered at times sixty thousand of the youth and young nobility of Britain and Gaul. Caesar comments on the fact that the Gauls sent their youth to Britain to be educated ... It required twenty years to master the complete circle of Druidic knowledge. Natural philosophy, astronomy, mathematics, geometry, medicine, jurisprudence, poetry and oratory were all proposed and taught - natural philosophy and astronomy with severe exactitude. (Elder refers to Strabo I IV, page 197. Caesars Comm. Lib V. Sueotonius, V Calegula. E. Campion, Accounts of Ireland, pg. 18.)
Yet we still have this idea that henge technology was somehow a sign that the ancient Britons were backward and into mystic rites and all that guff. Carry On Cleo has a lot to answer for
If only schools still taught Latin, so everyone got to read Caesar's Gallic Wars (De Bello Gallico). We'd appreciate what a centre of European civilization ancient Britain was, and understand how crucial this henge technology was for the study of not
They built it where all the flints are, the centre of civilization.
There aren't many definite prehistoric flint mines, but those the ones we know for sure are nearly all in the Wilts/Hants/W Sussex area.
They built it where all the flints are, the centre of civilization.There aren't many definite prehistoric flint mines, but those the ones we know for sure are nearly all in the Wilts/Hants/W Sussex area.
As to how they moved the stones from Wales, I'm sure they did it by "rowing". A few years ago a girlfriend and I used the technique to move a large, heavy greenhouse, complete with base, from one end of a garden to the other. It's very easy.
Lie the stone on its flat face. Position a log parallel against each long side. Then, ten or so people on either side each rest the end of a pole on each log, poke the poles under the stone, lever it up together, and all walk backwards together, still holding the poles in place. The stone is "rowed" forwards.
The great thing about this technique is you don't need a level surface for it to work. In fact, the rougher the surface the better, as it makes it easier to find a place to poke the poles under the stone.
I don't see why 20 or 30 people couldn't move a stone several miles a day this way.
As to how they moved the stones from Wales, I'm sure they did it by "rowing". A few years ago a girlfriend and I used the technique to move a large, heavy greenhouse, complete with base, from one end of a garden to the other. It's very easy.Lie the s
screaming from beneaththewaves 08 Jan 18 22:40 Joined: 30 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 10,440 | Blogger: screaming from beneaththewaves's blog Julian Cope points out how late the monument was in terms of the culture which built it. It's a final, massive, in-yer-face flourish. He suggests the reason the builders chose such a monumental scale, and went to all the trouble of transporting the stones so far, was just to say to everyone, look at what we can do! Basically, they did it because they could.
As to its purpose, it was surely an observatory and a means of measuring time. By making the artificial horizon completely immovable via these massive stones, it would have been a kind of stable, atomic clock of its day.
As Caesar tells us in The Gallic Wars, astronomy and the measurement of time were among the sciences studied by the Britons, and Stonehenge, constructed in that area so rich in flints for tools and thus the centre of its civilization, was presumably its number-one university.
Or it might be something else.
screaming from beneaththewaves 08 Jan 18 22:40 Joined: 30 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 10,440 | Blogger: screaming from beneaththewaves's blogJulian Cope points out how late the monument was in terms of the culture which built it. It's a final, massive, i