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Is it really plausible they managed to elevate huge stones up onto other huge standing stones 5000 years ago and for no apparent reason? not to mention the fact they originated in South West Wales, transportation then would have taken years ?

Or where they really just constructed much more recently?
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Report STUDYFORM • January 8, 2018 6:19 PM GMT
I drove past Stonehenge just a couple of hours ago. 1st time I've seen it since I was a kid.
Which makes this thread a little bit of a coincidence
Report STUDYFORM • January 8, 2018 6:25 PM GMT
I thought about the elevation of the stones.
Use some sort of rope to pull the upright ones upright.
Then put loads of mud and soil up to the top, maybe starting a couple of hundred yards or more away, then drag/roll the topping stone up the new muddy ramp. The get rid of the mud and soil.
That's how I'd have done it anyway. So yes 5,000 years ago well possible.
I can't explain how they got the stones there from south Wales though.
Report invicta • January 8, 2018 6:29 PM GMT
probably the most overrated visitor attraction in the UK, £16.50 entrance to walk around, takes about 2 minutes, cannot get anywhere near the stones. Agree it's fascinating how they got there and what they might mean but how boring.
Report STUDYFORM • January 8, 2018 7:27 PM GMT
£16.50 ???!!?!?!

It used to be free, you'd park near it, walk round for 10 minutes, then get back in the car and bugger off.

£16.50 Surprised Who gets it?
Report Injera • January 8, 2018 7:32 PM GMT
I feel embarrassed when driving past on the busy A303. Tourists wandering around in a circle not quite sure what they're looking at. I've heard the new 'Visitor Centre' is pretty good though.
Report darren_discombobulates_sports • January 8, 2018 10:19 PM GMT
Seems more logical to me that the stone formation was constructed in the last few hundred years rather than 5000 years ago? then again the Egyptian Pyramids blows that theory out of the water, they managed to transport thousands of limestone rocks from hundreds of miles south of the Nile to their location thousands of years ago to, amazing what they were able to achieve with such basic technology.

This conspiracy theorist is not having it either way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjmY5zak28o
Report screaming from beneaththewaves • January 8, 2018 10:40 PM GMT
Julian Cope points out how late the monument was in terms of the culture which built it. It's a final, massive, in-yer-face flourish. He suggests the reason the builders chose such a monumental scale, and went to all the trouble of transporting the stones so far, was just to say to everyone, look at what we can do! Basically, they did it because they could.

As to its purpose, it was surely an observatory and a means of measuring time. By making the artificial horizon completely immovable via these massive stones, it would have been a kind of stable, atomic clock of its day.

As Caesar tells us in The Gallic Wars, astronomy and the measurement of time were among the sciences studied by the Britons, and Stonehenge, constructed in that area so rich in flints for tools and thus the centre of its civilization, was presumably its number-one university.

Or it might be something else.
Report akabula • January 8, 2018 10:46 PM GMT
Not sure what I'm struggling to understand the most.
How they transported the stones or how they get people to pay £16.50.
Report donny osmond • January 8, 2018 10:53 PM GMT
we would still be building stone circles if it wasnt for them immigrants
Report sofiakenny • January 8, 2018 11:00 PM GMT
£16.50??..Thats £15.50 less than what Craig Whyte paid for The Rangers!
Report roadrunner46 • January 9, 2018 12:06 AM GMT
fr no apparent reason # u spew shoite like this little gem
Report screaming from beneaththewaves • January 9, 2018 10:30 AM GMT
If only schools still taught Latin, so everyone got to read Caesar's Gallic Wars (De Bello Gallico). We'd appreciate what a centre of European civilization ancient Britain was, and understand how crucial this henge technology was for the study of not just the starts and planets, but also meteorology and geography. Caesar commenting on the great schools of Britain:

They lecture on the stars in their motion, the magnitude of the Earth and its divisions, on natural history, on the power and government of God; and instruct the youth in these subjects (see De Ballo Gallico, VII, 15, 16.).

He also found that the Britons were using the Greek alphabet, and worshipped the same gods as the Romans - Jupiter, Minerva etc.

This tradition of Britain as a centre of European education went back a long, long way, to before Caesar's time. The historian Isabel Hill Elder:

The students at these colleges numbered at times sixty thousand of the youth and young nobility of Britain and Gaul. Caesar comments on the fact that the Gauls sent their youth to Britain to be educated ... It required twenty years to master the complete circle of Druidic knowledge. Natural philosophy, astronomy, mathematics, geometry, medicine, jurisprudence, poetry and oratory were all proposed and taught - natural philosophy and astronomy with severe exactitude. (Elder refers to Strabo I IV, page 197. Caesars Comm. Lib V. Sueotonius, V Calegula. E. Campion, Accounts of Ireland, pg. 18.)

Yet we still have this idea that henge technology was somehow a sign that the ancient Britons were backward and into mystic rites and all that guff. Carry On Cleo has a lot to answer for
Report mokegibboni • January 14, 2018 3:17 PM GMT
Aliens are capable of doing anything!
Report AFTERTHOUGHT • January 14, 2018 3:46 PM GMT
Eddie Stobart brought the stones from Wales and they were lifted into position using sound resonance (lost alien technology) !
Report Dr Crippen • January 14, 2018 3:50 PM GMT
It's all a con, they're made of polystyrene.
Report casemoney • January 14, 2018 4:15 PM GMT
Why did they not just build it where the Stones were ,Instead of building it in the rsole of no where ?
Report screaming from beneaththewaves • January 14, 2018 4:42 PM GMT
They built it where all the flints are, the centre of civilization.

There aren't many definite prehistoric flint mines, but those the ones we know for sure are nearly all in the Wilts/Hants/W Sussex area.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves • January 14, 2018 4:50 PM GMT
As to how they moved the stones from Wales, I'm sure they did it by "rowing". A few years ago a girlfriend and I used the technique to move a large, heavy greenhouse, complete with base, from one end of a garden to the other. It's very easy.

Lie the stone on its flat face. Position a log parallel against each long side. Then, ten or so people on either side each rest the end of a pole on each log, poke the poles under the stone, lever it up together, and all walk backwards together, still holding the poles in place. The stone is "rowed" forwards.

The great thing about this technique is you don't need a level surface for it to work. In fact, the rougher the surface the better, as it makes it easier to find a place to poke the poles under the stone.

I don't see why 20 or 30 people couldn't move a stone several miles a day this way.
Report casemoney • January 14, 2018 5:34 PM GMT
Why did they do it ? For What reason ?
Report screaming from beneaththewaves • January 14, 2018 6:11 PM GMT
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Julian Cope points out how late the monument was in terms of the culture which built it. It's a final, massive, in-yer-face flourish. He suggests the reason the builders chose such a monumental scale, and went to all the trouble of transporting the stones so far, was just to say to everyone, look at what we can do! Basically, they did it because they could.

As to its purpose, it was surely an observatory and a means of measuring time. By making the artificial horizon completely immovable via these massive stones, it would have been a kind of stable, atomic clock of its day.

As Caesar tells us in The Gallic Wars, astronomy and the measurement of time were among the sciences studied by the Britons, and Stonehenge, constructed in that area so rich in flints for tools and thus the centre of its civilization, was presumably its number-one university.

Or it might be something else.
Report TheBaron • January 14, 2018 6:37 PM GMT
It was shown many years ago how these stones could have been moved long distances its not that difficult when you have a lot of man power and time.
Report morpteh mackem • January 14, 2018 6:40 PM GMT
spinal tap at their finest.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves • January 14, 2018 7:00 PM GMT
Stonehenge is megalithic architecture turned up to 11.
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