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Ought to have been hanged.

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By:
twizzle22
When: 04 Jan 18 18:50
1000/1  a woman being on the parole board
By:
donny osmond
When: 04 Jan 18 18:53
lets hope he doest let down those who have shown immense leniency to him

iirc judge said he should not be realeased until he no longer posed a threat?
By:
moisok
When: 04 Jan 18 18:53
I would think this would be the mind set of the guardian style parole board.

'And don't be a naughty boy again'

I am very much aquainted with this approach.  So many are let out - at least the parole board are safe .  fk the general public - well he has and they are virtually condoning it with this action.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 04 Jan 18 18:54
He should never be getting out, let alone after 10.
By:
moisok
When: 04 Jan 18 18:54
should rename leniency  - I would call it dangerous and  insanity
By:
donny osmond
When: 04 Jan 18 18:56
dangerous and insanity is to others,

leniency has clearly been shown to him, too much so imo, but ....
By:
A_T
When: 04 Jan 18 19:13
There are some seemingly odd decisions made. John Tanner who murdered his girlfriend Rachel McClean was released after only 11 years.
By:
dunlaying
When: 04 Jan 18 19:29
Should have been destroyed .
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 04 Jan 18 21:07
Probably get a job with uber.
By:
akabula
When: 04 Jan 18 21:19
After a hearing about his case in November, the Parole Board decided to approve his release with "stringent" licence conditions.
He will have to report to probation staff every week and is barred from contacting any of his victims.


From the OPs link.
Stringent conditions? Having to sign in each week hardly stringent and not to have contact with any of his victims was surely a give.
Madness to take a chance on this vile creature.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Jan 18 22:01
Turns out that Keir Starmer is the man responsible for his release. (Yes, that Keir Starmer - the Labour clever-clogs battling to keep us in the EU, on account of Remainers like him being more intelligent than the rest of us.)

A huge scandal is breaking over how the inexplicable decision has been made to release serial rapist John Worboys from prison. Worboys was convicted of one rape, five sexual assaults and 12 charges of drugging women, before 75 further women came forward with complaints against him. The Director of Public Prosecutions decided that because Worboys had been given a life sentence, he should not be prosecuted for the further cases. If he had been, there is no way he would be being released from prison. The DPP at the time? Keir Starmer… Huge questions to answer here…

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By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jan 18 22:26
The Other fella who had Murdered his two previous Partners and Released again to Murder a 3rd Beggars Belief ,IB spot on Uber with Dodgy ID  ...  With the Civ Lib mob about anything can and Does happen regarding Crime and Punishement .
By:
dave1357
When: 04 Jan 18 22:27
@ screaming beneath the waves If he had been given a life sentence and if as donny said the judge instructed that he wouldn't be released if he posed a threat, what would be the point in putting more women through cross examination and spending vast amounts on legal aid and court expenses?  Starmer's decision was quite obviously correct.  The obviously wrong decision is that of the parole board, but rather than attack them, you choose to make a cheap political point.
By:
Facts
When: 04 Jan 18 22:30
Quite right Dave. SFBTW is talking utter nonsense - as usual.
By:
akabula
When: 04 Jan 18 22:39
women through cross examination and spending vast amounts on legal aid and court expenses?

Surely every victim is due justice, costs shouldn't come into that. As regards putting them through the ordeal of a trial then again surely as they came forward in the first place they were looking for justice.
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jan 18 22:39
TWO cases where the Culprits should not see the Light of Day again One has been released twice to Murder Twice ,Lord only Knows what will will happen with TAXI man ..
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Jan 18 22:42
Because if just one or two of the 75 possible further offences had been placed on his record, no parole board could conceivably have decided he would ever no longer pose a threat.

How do you know that none of those 75 women didn't want to see him in court? It must have surely been in the minds of one or two of them when they made the effort to come forward and make their complaints.
By:
casemoney
When: 04 Jan 18 22:47
Punishment fails to Fit the Crime Time and Time again in this Country ,Luvvies standing round back slapping that the Civ Libs
of all are Being up held ,Perhaps if One of these types had been Drugged and Sodomised in the back of his cab they
would have a different outlook on matters ..
By:
dave1357
When: 04 Jan 18 22:47
@ akabula as you well know plenty of cases aren't prosecuted due to scarce resources.  So re-prosecuting someone who was already getting life would just mean other people not getting any justice at all.  It is absurd to blame Starmer.  As I said the blame lies solely in the parole board (who would have been fully aware of the other unprosecuted cases).
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Jan 18 22:49
But how could the parole board take those other cases into account when the DPP hadn't tried to prosecute him for them?
By:
dave1357
When: 04 Jan 18 22:51
Because if just one or two of the 75 possible further offences had been placed on his record, no parole board could conceivably have decided he would ever no longer pose a threat.

utter nonsense the parole board would be quite aware of his background.  To be truthful they have prob been told by the Tories to let people out and disregarded the judge's instructions.
By:
dave1357
When: 04 Jan 18 22:55
The parole board isn't a court.  They listen to the crims representatives and various authorities.  They took some sort of advice that he wasn't a danger.  There is no way they weren't aware of the further allegations.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Jan 18 23:06
But that's my point. Because the parole board isn't a court, the complaints of the 75 further women remained just that - complaints. Were they credible? Impossible to be sure, with Starmer having decided they weren't worth pursuing.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Jan 18 23:20
To be truthful they have prob been told by the Tories to let people out and disregarded the judge's instructions.

Worboys was given an indefinite sentence with a minimum of 8 years. The judge was unable to give a life sentence, because what Worboys was actually charged with was not severe enough.

Four years later a European Court ruling deemed such indefinite sentences, intended to protect the public, illegal. Hence the current government being forced to allow Worboys a chance of parole.
By:
dave1357
When: 04 Jan 18 23:41
So you know that Starmer believed that the sentence was indefinite at the time of his decision and still attack him?

The culpable body is the parole board.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 05 Jan 18 09:45
Starmer, of all people, should have anticipated that the European Court of Human Rights would overturn a sentence imposed by a UK court. Partly because that's the sort of knowledge and foresight that was supposed to make him worth the £600,000 per year the Director of Public Prosecutions earns; and partly because by seeking to overturn the Referendum result we know that he's advocate for European court rulings taking precedence over UK ones.
By:
lfc1971
When: 05 Jan 18 09:54
It would be good if we could lock Starmer  up , for treason
By:
lfc1971
When: 05 Jan 18 09:58
neither the European court , or the British court system is fit for purpose
This is not a unique case , it is the norm
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 05 Jan 18 10:16
Every thread where it's possible. This being no exception, one of the many 'right-wing fanboys' HAS to get some sort of anti-Labour or 'leftie' comment in.

If this can be used to hijack the thread so much the better.
Amazing how you so rarely (if ever) read on here how bad the current government is.

It is precisely why the forum is what it now is.
By:
lfc1971
When: 05 Jan 18 10:19
Starmer ultimately is responsible , he didn't understand the possible outcome of his decision
He is incompetent .
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 05 Jan 18 10:31
Jimmy Savile police missed three chances to take case to trial, DPP admits
Britain's most senior prosecutor has apologised to women abused by Jimmy Savile as he disclosed that police missed three chances to take him to trial.

Mr Starmer said: "I accept the conclusions reached by Ms. Levitt QC and, in the interests of transparency and accountability I have decided to publish her report in full. In doing so, I would like to take the opportunity to apologise for the shortcomings in the part played by the CPS in these cases."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9795128/Jimmy-Savile-police-missed-three-chances-to-take-case-to-trial-DPP-admits.html

A primary school teacher accused of sending ‘lewd’ sex messages to a teenage boy who then committed suicide has been cleared after a dramatic last-ditch intervention by Government lawyers.

A judge was set to rule on the case of Iwan Harding, 34, after a trial heard he sent sexually explicit text messages to 16-year-old Anthony Stubbs about having sex in his school uniform.

But yesterday the senior legal advisor to the Director of Public Prosecutions Keir Starmer, ordered the CPS in Wales to drop the prosecution.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2362458/Primary-school-teacher-accused-sending-sex-texts-boy-killed-cleared-Government-intervenes.html
By:
moisok
When: 05 Jan 18 12:10
starmer the glamour boy  of the right in the party exposed again
as I have always said - a placeman - trying to take the party backwards
placed in a safe seat etc etc

he ignored any other women raped who came forward - he knew all about and as in other cases interfered


people like him are irresponsible but NEVER responsible for their actions
yet there are people on here (probably not even members) who glorify and build him up as something
positive in the party  - he has been found out again
By:
donny osmond
When: 05 Jan 18 12:50
you havnt always said that
By:
GoBallistic
When: 05 Jan 18 13:18
Is this guy is going to be supplied with a new ID ?  Mandatory sex change op could be best all round
By:
moisok
When: 05 Jan 18 13:22
starmer exposed as just another suit/careerist - pure self interest
what were they doing selecting something like that for a safe seat?
By:
mecca
When: 05 Jan 18 15:44
Theodore Johnson ... Jon Venables ... John Worboys .....

Get these out into the news all within a couple of days of each other.
Is this to dilute the impact on public
By:
donny osmond
When: 05 Jan 18 17:13
timed to get brexshambles and nhshambles off the front page?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 05 Jan 18 17:31
but that would suggest the press was doing the government want!!!!

The press wouldn't do that! All journalists are lefties.
Aren't they?
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 05 Jan 18 17:32
It is absurd to blame Starmer.  As I said the blame lies solely in the parole board (who would have been fully aware of the other unprosecuted cases).

Bob Neill, Chair of the Commons Justice Committee: "The Parole Board is, rightly, independent of government, and, of course, can only deal with cases for which a prisoner has actually been convicted, rather than where there may be suspicion. There are separate questions for the CPS to answer about their charging decisions in this case."

In other words, the Parole Board was NOT able to take into account the 75 other cases, precisely because the Crown Prosecution Service (Head of which was Keir Starmer) chose to ignore them.
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