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i forgot that study, ....
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starmer is all over this and several others
and they are fawning over him as the next leader and he has only been an mp for a couple of years hey ho a media darling - well he has the 'right' credentials !!?? |
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They only take into account the crimes he's been convicted for.
Which was one rape and numerous assaults. He hasn't been tried for all the other alleged rapes, so why can't he be tried for them now? |
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just seen them avoid starmer's involvement all together on sky news hey ho
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he can be tried for anything he has not been tried for
the evidence was considered and not proceeded with, but as more folk have come forward since the trial there could well be charges brought. he may well plead guilty...as refusal to do so would suggest he is not ever fit for release if found guilty after another trial |
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Loads of blame to the nearest Labour linked person - no matter how tenuous the link.
Never miss an opportunity, eh? Actually, the ultimate blame should surely be with the Home Secretary, shouldn't it? That's how it usually works with such stories. The geezer who committed the crimes should have his cok cut off and be left to P out of a tube and at least one of his hands removed too as a warning to others. And not let out for at least 50 years. However this isn't the result - but at least the thread gave more opportunities for 'Leftie-bashing' didn't it? |
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why would it be anybodys fault from back then?
the standards of evidence were such that this kind of evidence was rarely brought to court back then, its a different and better standard now |
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But he did TEN YEARS.
Marcel Proust says that if you were to meet yourself from 10 years ago, you would find yourself unbearable. He'll never be in a "position of trust" again. So why do we have to keep feeding him. Whats the point of prison otherwise? And I voted Tory last time. |
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Why would a certain person react to which government was in power, surely this is about justice ?
Then he mentions labour, i dont know why. Why does he go on about leftie bashing when the fred is about justice ? |
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If you're asking the ether about me(!) and it looks like you are.
It is in response to the blame game started earlier in the thread. Otherwise, yes, I agree with you. |
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You posted this.
dave1357 @ screaming beneath the waves If he had been given a life sentence and if as donny said the judge instructed that he wouldn't be released if he posed a threat, what would be the point in putting more women through cross examination and spending vast amounts on legal aid and court expenses? Starmer's decision was quite obviously correct. The obviously wrong decision is that of the parole board, but rather than attack them, you choose to make a cheap political point. Then followed with this. dave1357 Because if just one or two of the 75 possible further offences had been placed on his record, no parole board could conceivably have decided he would ever no longer pose a threat. utter nonsense the parole board would be quite aware of his background. [i]To be truthful they have prob been told by the Tories to let people out and disregarded the judge's instructions.[/i] Hypocrisy at it's best. |
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STUDYFORM Every thread where it's possible. This being no exception, one of the many 'right-wing fanboys' HAS to get some sort of anti-Labour or 'leftie' comment in. If this can be used to hijack the thread so much the better. Amazing how you so rarely (if ever) read on here how bad the current government is. It is precisely why the forum is what it now is. You fail to comment on dave and his cheap point about the Tory party? More hypocrisy? |
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My problem with Starmer, and reason for linking him to this fiasco, is nothing to do with his politics. I've voted Labour in every general election since 1983 until last year's one, and that was on account of the party being hijacked by aristocratic Stalinists, being led by a privileged Trotskyist, and indulging Islamic fundamentalism, none of which have brought anything other than fear and suffering to ordinary people.
The reason I want to highlight Starmer's role is his desire to overturn the EU referendum result. That result was cross-party. I voted leave for the same reason Wedgwood Benn and Peter Shore campaigned against it in 1974 - you never submit to a supranational, undemocratic bureaucracy or judiciary, however much you might like what they're offering right now. Because you never know what they might be forcing on you in the future. As Wedgwood Benn used to say, a bad democracy is always better than a good king. But Starmer is working to overturn that result, and his only justification for doing so is that he knows better than the electorate. And this case just highlights what his whole career at the Crown Prosecution Service suggested - he's lacks competence, insight and any basic sense of responsibility. Even today he's protesting that what the CPS did in this case while he was being paid to head it was nothing to do with him. That is not the sort of person I trust to overrule the electorate. |
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Jesus, is there any thread left where some absolute balloon can't turn it into some vindictive bashing of a person who voted against brexit.
Get over it, you won. Stop acting like toddlers ffs. |
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I'd suggest that Labour between 1983 and the last one was a bit like voting Tory. screaming.
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1983 was the first general election I could vote in. Even I'm not that old.
If you think voting for Michael Foot in 1983 was a bit like voting Tory, then that just shows how hopelessly off-with-the-fairies the current metropolitan Labour party is, and why it lost seats like North East Derbyshire, Stoke-on-Trent South, Mansfield and Walsall North lost year. You can't imagine how alienating that sort of remark is to a Labour voter who remembers what it was like back in 1983, 1987 or 1992, if you favoured the policies of Foot or Kinnock over those of Thatcher or Major. Keep calling us Tories, and you'll keep losing general elections. |
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10 years? This story brings me back to that one about the woman who let another woman believe she was a man and they had consensual sex but one wore a blindfold.
I'm not even sure that was a crime (see below) as such but because she pretended she was a man in the first trial she was given EIGHT YEARS!!!!! So she get's 8 for that, and this vermin who raped like 100 women using drugs is let out after 10? How anyone who works for our legal system can justify that, I can't comprehend how they could try, my dead cat could tell you it was wrong. And the thing about that womans case was: What if one of us tonight had sex with a man pretending to be a woman but in addition they said they were "transgender" and didn't tell us they were born a man .. what's the difference? If you felt you were tricked and complained, rather than them getting done you'd probably be looked at for a "transphobic hate crime". The system and society is turning into a madhouse. |
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starmer's fingerprints are all over this - he is the type to take my party back to blair's time
sorry but the golden boy (only been an MP 5 mins) who you all smarm over and want as leader has been found out |
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porky doesn't like his golden boy being found out to be like the rest of the suits and careerists ho ho
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bound to go back to his evil ways...........be back behind bars by the end of the year .....if not sooner
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Aye he probably will, but a shame one or more women will have to suffer horrors just to put him back where he is already.
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I hope something comes from this. From the BBC News site.
The government is doing "everything we can" to make sure rapist John Worboys stays in prison, Conservative party chairman Brandon Lewis has said. The Parole Board has said ex-black cab driver Worboys, jailed in 2009 for assaults on 12 women, can be released. But the government is considering challenging that decision in court. Mr Lewis said it was crucial victims were "properly protected", while a lawyer for victims said releasing Worboys would "put many women at risk". Justice Secretary David Gauke is looking into the possibility of applying for judicial review, but will only proceed if there is a good chance of success. If a judge finds the Parole Board did not follow the correct process or reached its decision on the wrong basis, that decision would be quashed and Worboys would have to make a fresh application for parole. The Parole Board said it was "confident correct procedures were followed" in the case. |
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Has Golden Boy apologised yet?
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Never met a black cab driver who wasn't a fecking know all.... just saying
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So now we are told the government will not appeal this decision despite all the noise from ministers. Still, they got some good headlines in the Tory press and that's what counts.
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I agree with emitdeb, one of 'em won Mastermind.
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Why is it that government ministers are forced to play god?
There's a certain irony that the very people who create the laws, that tie the hands of the judges, are then required to amend them on demand. The parole board's role is to assess the likelihood of re-offending and behaviour inside surely. Their hands are pretty much tied to protocol and procedure. It's the sentencing that is the issue, and that is down to LEGISLATION. |
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Fresh allegations being investigated.. He ain't going nowhere.
Always thought he'd probably be rearrested on release.. |