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A fifth person said to be 'fighting for his life'.
The police have already (extraordinarily) stated that none of the killings are linked. A bold assertion indeed given the extremely limited opportunity to fully examine the backgrounds, profiles and possible connections between the victims.
Absolutely no-one has come forward yet to say they are 'shocked' by these events.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-stabbings-murder-killed-new-years-eve-day-old-street-enfield-tulse-hill-west-ham-police-a8136471.html
The police have already (extraordinarily) stated that none of the killings are linked. A bold assertion indeed given the extremely limited opportunity to fully examine the backgrounds, profiles and possible connections between the victims.
Absolutely no-one has come forward yet to say they are 'shocked' by these events.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-stabbings-murder-killed-new-years-eve-day-old-street-enfield-tulse-hill-west-ham-police-a8136471.html
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A lot of unhappy people there it seems. Just too many people perhaps. Who knows? And there's always this territory stuff going on.
Iuliana Tudos, 22, was found by a member of the public in a disused building inside Finsbury Park, London, on December 27.
A post-mortem examination gave the cause of death as a stab wound to the abdomen and a head injury.
The 31-year-old man was arrested earlier at an address in Dalston, east London.
A post-mortem examination gave the cause of death as a stab wound to the abdomen and a head injury.
The 31-year-old man was arrested earlier at an address in Dalston, east London.
Not supprised these things happen these people have no fear of authority, why would they?
We have weak leadership who obsess over racism to such an exstent they have become lost in a world of their own making.
Rewarding bad behaviour will just lead to more bad behaiour.
Then there is the rest of society, we allow these parasites to live amoung us. I live in a area that has its fair share of drug dealing scum. Instead of ostracising them, people talk to them like they are a normal member of society, some even admire them for the car they dive and how much money they have, why?
Until the wider society shuns them and expunges them, then we only have ourselves to blame. no good blaming the police for stop and search if we are not going to do something about it ourselves.
We have weak leadership who obsess over racism to such an exstent they have become lost in a world of their own making.
Rewarding bad behaviour will just lead to more bad behaiour.
Then there is the rest of society, we allow these parasites to live amoung us. I live in a area that has its fair share of drug dealing scum. Instead of ostracising them, people talk to them like they are a normal member of society, some even admire them for the car they dive and how much money they have, why?
Until the wider society shuns them and expunges them, then we only have ourselves to blame. no good blaming the police for stop and search if we are not going to do something about it ourselves.
Surprised the Remaidears haven't picked up on this yet, xmon.
macarony 01 Jan 18 16:18
Not supprised these things happen these people have no fear of authority, why would they?
We have weak leadership who obsess over racism to such an exstent they have become lost in a world of their own making.
Rewarding bad behaviour will just lead to more bad behaiour.
Then there is the rest of society, we allow these parasites to live amoung us. I live in a area that has its fair share of drug dealing scum. Instead of ostracising them, people talk to them like they are a normal member of society, some even admire them for the car they dive and how much money they have, why?
Until the wider society shuns them and expunges them, then we only have ourselves to blame. no good blaming the police for stop and search if we are not going to do something about it ourselves..
Drugs should be legalized and taxed...
Not supprised these things happen these people have no fear of authority, why would they?
We have weak leadership who obsess over racism to such an exstent they have become lost in a world of their own making.
Rewarding bad behaviour will just lead to more bad behaiour.
Then there is the rest of society, we allow these parasites to live amoung us. I live in a area that has its fair share of drug dealing scum. Instead of ostracising them, people talk to them like they are a normal member of society, some even admire them for the car they dive and how much money they have, why?
Until the wider society shuns them and expunges them, then we only have ourselves to blame. no good blaming the police for stop and search if we are not going to do something about it ourselves..
Drugs should be legalized and taxed...
macarony 01 Jan 18 16:18
Not supprised these things happen these people have no fear of authority, why would they?
We have weak leadership who obsess over racism to such an exstent they have become lost in a world of their own making.
Rewarding bad behaviour will just lead to more bad behaiour.
Then there is the rest of society, we allow these parasites to live amoung us. I live in a area that has its fair share of drug dealing scum. Instead of ostracising them, people talk to them like they are a normal member of society, some even admire them for the car they dive and how much money they have, why?
Until the wider society shuns them and expunges them, then we only have ourselves to blame. no good blaming the police for stop and search if we are not going to do something about it ourselves..
Drugs should be legalized and taxed...
Not supprised these things happen these people have no fear of authority, why would they?
We have weak leadership who obsess over racism to such an exstent they have become lost in a world of their own making.
Rewarding bad behaviour will just lead to more bad behaiour.
Then there is the rest of society, we allow these parasites to live amoung us. I live in a area that has its fair share of drug dealing scum. Instead of ostracising them, people talk to them like they are a normal member of society, some even admire them for the car they dive and how much money they have, why?
Until the wider society shuns them and expunges them, then we only have ourselves to blame. no good blaming the police for stop and search if we are not going to do something about it ourselves..
Drugs should be legalized and taxed...
macarony 01 Jan 18 16:18
Not supprised these things happen these people have no fear of authority, why would they?
We have weak leadership who obsess over racism to such an exstent they have become lost in a world of their own making.
Rewarding bad behaviour will just lead to more bad behaiour.
Then there is the rest of society, we allow these parasites to live amoung us. I live in a area that has its fair share of drug dealing scum. Instead of ostracising them, people talk to them like they are a normal member of society, some even admire them for the car they dive and how much money they have, why?
Until the wider society shuns them and expunges them, then we only have ourselves to blame. no good blaming the police for stop and search if we are not going to do something about it ourselves..
Drugs should be legalized and taxed...
Not supprised these things happen these people have no fear of authority, why would they?
We have weak leadership who obsess over racism to such an exstent they have become lost in a world of their own making.
Rewarding bad behaviour will just lead to more bad behaiour.
Then there is the rest of society, we allow these parasites to live amoung us. I live in a area that has its fair share of drug dealing scum. Instead of ostracising them, people talk to them like they are a normal member of society, some even admire them for the car they dive and how much money they have, why?
Until the wider society shuns them and expunges them, then we only have ourselves to blame. no good blaming the police for stop and search if we are not going to do something about it ourselves..
Drugs should be legalized and taxed...
It is the result of so much racism by the met police. If only we could get them onside with us soaking wet fluid types then all is love!!
We simply cannot have the police going around upsetting these yoof.
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We simply cannot have the police going around upsetting these yoof.
hope this helps
I always like to contribute.
old street-City of London (Central)
enfield-North London
tulse hill-Sairf London
west ham - East London
In a place with the population roughly the size of Uruguay and Norway added together. I don't know, is it a massive number?
It is quite understandable there's no suggestion of a link.
I'd agree with Macarony but add an extra cause of problems. The cut in police numbers. It's making criminals realise crime is easier to get away with.
enfield-North London
tulse hill-Sairf London
west ham - East London
In a place with the population roughly the size of Uruguay and Norway added together. I don't know, is it a massive number?
It is quite understandable there's no suggestion of a link.
I'd agree with Macarony but add an extra cause of problems. The cut in police numbers. It's making criminals realise crime is easier to get away with.
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https://fullfact.org/crime/how-many-those-convicted-knife-crime-go-prison/
https://fullfact.org/crime/how-many-those-convicted-knife-crime-go-prison/
Tulse Hill is very close to me, it has always been a troublespot every since I can remember and somewhere that I've always avoided.
Ignore my last post, just found out they had received 500k from mr Soros 
BBC news giving out the statistics if numbers and ages of stabbing victims this year.No mention of colour. Surely the majority of victims and perpetrators are Black?
Just been listening to this on LBC.
A copper came on and said the one thing you won't read in the Guardian about the increase in knife crime is the phrase ''stop and search.''
He said that is because they conducted a successful campaign against it on the grounds of racism and this is the result.
They've all gone quiet over there.
A copper came on and said the one thing you won't read in the Guardian about the increase in knife crime is the phrase ''stop and search.''
He said that is because they conducted a successful campaign against it on the grounds of racism and this is the result.
They've all gone quiet over there.
GoOnThen, the BBC are colour blind.
They only see colours when they're handing out jobs.
They only see colours when they're handing out jobs.
multi cultural societies are always more violent societies , and some cultures are more violent than others
Indeed Dr. Although to be fair they had a senior Police officer on who said they planned to increase stop and search,that was was met with stony silence from the ethnic minority. reporter.
There is a reason why , why do you think that mankind has seperate different races ? Well these things don't happen by accident , that would be impossible
religion , race , social and political beliefs etc , all these things must be the same in a democracy , it is impossible to have a democracy , or progress without these fundamental things being the same
I was drawn to this debate many years ago. I took up a radical questioning position once I saw how skewed the debate was.
I have an intellectual background related to statistics but more importantly the correct way to accumulate them and interpretation.
What was blindingly obvious was the one sided nature of it all.
When gathering info and correlating it you are supposed(like all good sciences) to go out of your way to disprove your thesis before posting it. This does not occur these days.
You must challenge every statement. What are their figures. Who put the person on tv to publicise their theory - who is behind it etc etc.
Each person appearing in print or tv has an agenda - what is it? Who is sponsoring them. Tv editors have an agenda as does the organisation behind it etc et.
A forumite only the other day looked at a pro migrant piece from an institution
then found out 1/2 a million comes from Sorros in sponsorship.
A bit like the UCL 70 million euros it receives (it published a big pro eu survey of uk migrants etc) You see how it works.
I have an intellectual background related to statistics but more importantly the correct way to accumulate them and interpretation.
What was blindingly obvious was the one sided nature of it all.
When gathering info and correlating it you are supposed(like all good sciences) to go out of your way to disprove your thesis before posting it. This does not occur these days.
You must challenge every statement. What are their figures. Who put the person on tv to publicise their theory - who is behind it etc etc.
Each person appearing in print or tv has an agenda - what is it? Who is sponsoring them. Tv editors have an agenda as does the organisation behind it etc et.
A forumite only the other day looked at a pro migrant piece from an institution
then found out 1/2 a million comes from Sorros in sponsorship.
A bit like the UCL 70 million euros it receives (it published a big pro eu survey of uk migrants etc) You see how it works.
copper on 5live earlier this morning reckons its 90% black killers, he also said 20,000 less coppers this year is going to make things
worse, also went on about the different prison sentences between a knife and a gun ( when both can kill ).
worse, also went on about the different prison sentences between a knife and a gun ( when both can kill ).
he won't be in his job long
that is how they silence the debate with fear
how many of you would go in to your job and proclaim some the negative aspects of multiculturalism, immigration, rochdale and the rest??
that is how they silence the debate with fear
how many of you would go in to your job and proclaim some the negative aspects of multiculturalism, immigration, rochdale and the rest??
80 is 80 to many but still pales in comparison to the murder rate in the good ol USA. Chicago alone will leave these numbers standing
Data from the Mayor of London’s Police and Crime Office — led by former lobbyist-turned-Deputy Mayor Sophie Linden — reveals a sharp uptick in violent crime in Khan’s first year.
From the years 2015/16 to 2016/17, homicides in London rose by 27.1 per cent. Youth homicide jumped 70 per cent. Serious youth violence was up 19 per cent. Robbery was up 33.4 per cent, while home burglaries rose by 18.7 per cent.
Theft went up by over 10,000 incidents in a year, up 33.9 per cent, and there were more than 4,000 additional knife crime incidents under Khan than under his predecessor, a rise of 31.3 per cent.
Rape in the capital rose by 18.3 per cent, while there were 2,551 incidents of gun crime, representing a rise of 16.3 per cent on the previous year.
The Mayor has continuously blamed central government “police cuts” for the problems faced, but statistics reveal London only lost around 1,000 police officers (3 per cent) in the past year, reducing the workforce from 31,343 to 30,379.
The report compares November to October data from the years 2015/16 and 2016/17.
From the years 2015/16 to 2016/17, homicides in London rose by 27.1 per cent. Youth homicide jumped 70 per cent. Serious youth violence was up 19 per cent. Robbery was up 33.4 per cent, while home burglaries rose by 18.7 per cent.
Theft went up by over 10,000 incidents in a year, up 33.9 per cent, and there were more than 4,000 additional knife crime incidents under Khan than under his predecessor, a rise of 31.3 per cent.
Rape in the capital rose by 18.3 per cent, while there were 2,551 incidents of gun crime, representing a rise of 16.3 per cent on the previous year.
The Mayor has continuously blamed central government “police cuts” for the problems faced, but statistics reveal London only lost around 1,000 police officers (3 per cent) in the past year, reducing the workforce from 31,343 to 30,379.
The report compares November to October data from the years 2015/16 and 2016/17.
Chicago?
How many knifings di they get in 2017? No need to be exact, just take a stab at it.
How many knifings di they get in 2017? No need to be exact, just take a stab at it.
Which ever way dead is dead. Feel sorry for the families
Jan 2, 2018 -- 2:06PM, Dr Crippen wrote:
Chicago? How many knifings di they get in 2017? No need to be exact, just take a stab at it.
Well there were a total of 650 murders in Chicago during 2017, but no break down of method.
And they are happy with that number as it is a reduction of 15% from the previous year...
They got some Basterd for Killing the Young Girl , A local Chap aged 31, I hope he is 61 before is out on the Streets again ..
our friends doing well in france I see
How many people does it take to kick the sh1t out of one police woman................quite a few if the video is anything to go by !
How many people does it take to kick the sh1t out of one police woman................quite a few if the video is anything to go by !
Why is it there are two specific groups who cause so many problems out of all proportion to their actual percentage of population.
One lot have beards - the other run around on wheels.
RAYCYST - I said it first yah boo!!!!
One lot have beards - the other run around on wheels.
RAYCYST - I said it first yah boo!!!!
Another murder by stabbing last night.
A man has been arrested at an address in The Criminal Republic of Newham.
Who could have possibly predicted that?
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https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ilford-murder-probe-launched-woman-093600863.html
A man has been arrested at an address in The Criminal Republic of Newham.
Who could have possibly predicted that?
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https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ilford-murder-probe-launched-woman-093600863.html
I was in Newham on Tuesday night. Stratford to be precise. 50k hammers fans. Safe as houses. Nice old style pub in the high street than onto the stadium where I was searched for weapons.
If only this freak in Ilford was given the same treatment he may not have slit that poor woman's throat.
If only this freak in Ilford was given the same treatment he may not have slit that poor woman's throat.
Stratford's flagship London Westfield shopping centre enjoyed its very own vibrant, knife-enriched Boxing Day Sales experience.
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http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/27/terrifying-knives-found-police-westfield-riot-boxing-day-sales-7186184/
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http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/27/terrifying-knives-found-police-westfield-riot-boxing-day-sales-7186184/
From the comments section:
Phone- check, wallet- check, keys- check, big **** off knife- check... Sounds like a run of the mill trip to the shops to me
Phone- check, wallet- check, keys- check, big **** off knife- check... Sounds like a run of the mill trip to the shops to me
They have laid into mr kahn in the independent comments pages over this knife crime and the statistics of who is predominantly involved.
Very enlightening stats - I am surprised they allowed it!!!!
Of course getting a 'I will get stop and searched stopped' platform helped his voting popularity with certain communities!!!
Very enlightening stats - I am surprised they allowed it!!!!
Of course getting a 'I will get stop and searched stopped' platform helped his voting popularity with certain communities!!!
I tell yer one thing - they tried to play that one down as a minor scuffle (on the day - remember?)- but they went tooled up for trouble !!!
I can't wait to see what "The Defence" will be for the individuals arrested for carrying those evil-looking knives.
I'm sure it's just a silly big old misunderstanding. The knives were probably required to open some particularly stubborn walnut shells, the nuts from which the knife-wielders were thoughtfully going to distribute amongst the poor and needy shoppers at the elite stores.
I'm sure it's just a silly big old misunderstanding. The knives were probably required to open some particularly stubborn walnut shells, the nuts from which the knife-wielders were thoughtfully going to distribute amongst the poor and needy shoppers at the elite stores.
Two more fatal stabbings in Camden in a matter of hours.
Reports indicate that one of the victims had a brother who was murdered in September, and a cousin murdered in 2010.
That makes 16 known fatal stabbings so far this year in Londonistan, and six of those victims are teenagers.
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/camden-stabbing-victim-pictured-teenager-17-killed-along-with-another-victim-20-as-detectives-probe-a3772111.html
Reports indicate that one of the victims had a brother who was murdered in September, and a cousin murdered in 2010.
That makes 16 known fatal stabbings so far this year in Londonistan, and six of those victims are teenagers.
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/camden-stabbing-victim-pictured-teenager-17-killed-along-with-another-victim-20-as-detectives-probe-a3772111.html
plus another one in hospital
the somali community has been warned about possible reprisals - what on earth is that all about?
is this the right wing/nazi groups that we are being warned about?
any descriptions - there are witnesses - just like the manchester group rape but no descriptions
the somali community has been warned about possible reprisals - what on earth is that all about?
is this the right wing/nazi groups that we are being warned about?
any descriptions - there are witnesses - just like the manchester group rape but no descriptions
Is there a particular reason that we tolerate knife carrying 'gangs' from Somalia roaming the streets of Britain?
you shouldn't be saying anything - it is negative ho ho anyway it may be one of these right wing gangs
ANY DESCRIPTIONS ???
ANY DESCRIPTIONS ???
It was an honest question. As far as I am aware there are no gangs of British criminals roaming round Somalia.
What is the guardians view on this. Meanwhile they have an article on Abbott.
It was an honest question. As far as I am aware there are no gangs of British criminals roaming round Somalia.
An honest and pertinent question indeed Saddo, but one that does not appear to be on the radar of the Labour Mayor of London. He is famously more vexed by the matter of advertising posters featuring scantily-dressed women. Women who posed in that manner of their own free will. Maybe that’s a concept he’s not entirely familiar with?
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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/13/sadiq-khan-moves-to-ban-body-shaming-ads-from-london-transport
Meanwhile London Labour and the Leader of the Opposition Corbyn show that their priority is to publicly grieve for a deceased homeless Angolan paedophile, (“a lover of singing and yoga” according to The Guardian LOLOL), an illegal immigrant here, twice previously removed from Britain but still free to swan around the capital as he chose.
(See all papers)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5402829/Homeless-man-dead-Westminster-child-abuser.html
There’s a foretaste of what a future Labour government's priorities might be.
An honest and pertinent question indeed Saddo, but one that does not appear to be on the radar of the Labour Mayor of London. He is famously more vexed by the matter of advertising posters featuring scantily-dressed women. Women who posed in that manner of their own free will. Maybe that’s a concept he’s not entirely familiar with?
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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/13/sadiq-khan-moves-to-ban-body-shaming-ads-from-london-transport
Meanwhile London Labour and the Leader of the Opposition Corbyn show that their priority is to publicly grieve for a deceased homeless Angolan paedophile, (“a lover of singing and yoga” according to The Guardian LOLOL), an illegal immigrant here, twice previously removed from Britain but still free to swan around the capital as he chose.
(See all papers)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5402829/Homeless-man-dead-Westminster-child-abuser.html
There’s a foretaste of what a future Labour government's priorities might be.
I saw Corbyn's tribute to the paedo, virtue signalling at it's finest 
I don't believe in interfering in the political struggles in a foreign country. If Somalis want to kill Somalis in the Camden part of Somalia, so be it, as long as there is no collateral damage of course! Naturally the police won't be around as they will be clocking motorists at 31mph in a 30 zone in nearby Hampstead!
I really don't know what you are all on about - you cannot interfere with other cultures - it is waycyst.
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hope this helps
Hard to Understand how these People Flee their Warn Torn Countries only to start Fighting and Killing each other over here..
Well, that should cover it. And just look at Dick's response.
Mayor of London Sadiq Khan said he was "desperately saddened" by the deaths.
"I am asking the prime minister and the home secretary to urgently meet with me to discuss how we can work together to tackle the evil of knife attacks."
Meanwhile Cressida Dick, the commissioner for the Met Police, asked all Londoners to "think about what you can do to help us tackle this blight on our city".
She urged young Londoners to "stop and think" before carrying a knife.
The government's Serious Violence Strategy will be published in the next few months, a Home Office spokesperson said.
"Tackling this crime requires a new way of thinking," the spokesperson added.
Mayor of London Sadiq Khan said he was "desperately saddened" by the deaths.
"I am asking the prime minister and the home secretary to urgently meet with me to discuss how we can work together to tackle the evil of knife attacks."
Meanwhile Cressida Dick, the commissioner for the Met Police, asked all Londoners to "think about what you can do to help us tackle this blight on our city".
She urged young Londoners to "stop and think" before carrying a knife.
The government's Serious Violence Strategy will be published in the next few months, a Home Office spokesperson said.
"Tackling this crime requires a new way of thinking," the spokesperson added.
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