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Israel, Jerusalem, the holy mountain will be there.
1000 years of rule by Christ - the coming prince. Hannukah is in a few days - John 10. A simple nod and the place flares up? i wonder why? seventy year anniversary. ( the pope trying to change the words of the lord's prayer? ) time to decide ladies. because you don't want to miss out on ultimate bitcoin? eternity on the wrong side of that is a bitch. |
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We fought so hard and long for democracy and now you want to be ruled by a monarch again, and for 1000 years even?
Screw that! |
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To some corrupt hippie slacker who has shown he just pisses off and goes to comfy heaven for a bunch of thousand years when the going gets tough no less. That's not someone who is to be trusted.
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I saw that thing about the pope Zorro and was somewhat sceptical until I read what he had to say ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42279427 The current wording that says "lead us not into temptation" is not a good translation because God does not lead humans to sin, he says. His suggestion is to use "do not let us fall into temptation" instead, he told Italian TV on Wednesday night. My initial thoughts are that I don't see much harm in it. Do you? |
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They made a very similar change to the French-language `Lord`s Prayer` last week, and may be making much the same change in the Italian version.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/world/europe/pope-francis-lords-prayer-translation-temptation.html `...On Sunday, French churches began using a version of the Lord’s Prayer in which the line “Ne nous soumets pas à la tentation” (roughly, “do not expose us to temptation”) was replaced with “Ne nous laisse pas entrer en tentation” (“do not let us give in to temptation”).` |
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It would seem to me many if not 2/3rds of humans have no real idea in what is truly going on in life....
Their own lives and views are so important and can not except what is to happen. Trust me you have no idea what your life is truly worth and why you are exactly where you are right now in that life. But one thing can be assured you will not know when it ends either. Knowledge .... The great Jewish leaders rejected Jesus as the Messiah even through he fulfilled all the Jewish prophecies. But they expected the Messiah to tear down their persecutors and deliver them from these wicked leader's. Jesus wore robes as the rich leaders wore fine clothing. But God's plans are so much different to our own selfish plans. He wasn't what they expected so they rejected him. Most humans still do this today 1 in 3. |
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Remember God's anger is better than any humans kindness.
So when things are going wrong in life. Take a step back remember your blessings and stop being selfish and think of others not ourselves. |
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‘Trust You’?
Why, other than what other humans have told you, what do you ‘know’? |
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What difference does it make if the words spoken in the Lord’s Prayer are grammatically incorrect?
They are a plea to god. If god can’t understand the request based on that seeming ‘error’ then what fookin chance has humanity got? |
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God doesn’t lead us to temptation.
Good grief, how pedantic. It was ‘him’ who created temptation, set up the trap of original sin and created humans fallible enough to fall for it all knowing they were to fail. If people can’t see this fiddling by the pope is nothing more than an attempt to wrestle back Christmas 9that arguably is just an arbitrary date from rampant commercialism then we really do have a problem. If our hope against the desires of other humans to destroy this planet for want of profit lays with the church, then we are in serious trouble because man killed god already. |
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Back to point.
I see that Haley whoever now seems to blame the whole of the UN for being anti Israel. It seems the whole world is wrong and dictact gets decided when heads get together of just a very few people that shape doctrine and everyone who doesn’t follow are in the wrong. Has anyone else seen that story about who they think was the mastermind behind this idea to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel? It has been alleged it was some rich Jewish casino owner. |
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Dusty that would be Sheldon Adelson whose businesses have been convicted of money laundering and foreign corrupt practices.
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Well, Diff-rent, you really are Diff e rent for a gambolling forum. Take a look at this from the great Epicurus:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? And if that is not relevent to you, you'd better watch out for the certain other Religion that is on the march into the UK! |
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Yes Dave, that looks like the guy the story was about.
The idea that the American people voted for this as domestic policy, that effects very few of them at home, and that this is simply trump honouring that support when all the voters got were the option between two candidates is the greatest horse5hit of all. |
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No offense was intended.
Is it so impossible to believe that in human life you have been blessed with life. Your true Father in heaven not the man you call dad on earth. Knew you before birth ? He already knows every person's true intentions. For you and me a 100 yrs is a long time. In his world it's nothing. His plans will come to pass and he loves every single soul in this life. But many 2/3rds will turn away from him and he will do his best to help you with certain punishments. Like a Father punishing his beloved son. He doesn't want to punish him but his anger 8d out of pure kindness and love for their son. He wants you to do well and be good. What we do in life is binding in death make no mistake. |
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Is Trump mad ?
Is Trump just doing what Evil does ? Is Trump good ? No one knows his true intentions not even himself. Peter loved Jesus but Jesus knew Peter better than he knew himself. Listen to the **** call out 3 times and deny me 3 times. Peter said never ..... To be honest none of us know our true intentions. Give someone money , give them a hot woman give them something lovely and exciting and see how they act... |
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I will tell you something close to my heart.
My son has autism and he is almost 6 and has never spoken. But I love him l8ke all children ... a blessing. I've lived a different life divorced , married kid's, drugs, drink and gambling... But one day after hurting a lovely woman I realised I had to change. Hurting good people is wicked. I became wicked in heart. My son will never sin. Because he can't and will need help to do everything until he dies. I am this question ... Who is the better person ? Who when it comes to death and faces judgment will be happiest ? Eternal life after death... In this life yes I may have been more fortunate but in death he will be way above me. |
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What past Prresidents said about Jerusalem. Looks like Trump differs in that he does what he says.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-07/what-have-past-presidents-said-about-israel-and-jerusalem/9234736 |
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all you have to do is see who funded him to get into office and then see why he did this
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With any luck this will drive a wedge between the insidious nature of america and the rest of the world.
Let them be pariahs. |
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I have a very long but hazy memory. They were offered peace decades ago and they never accepted. End of.
now you have continual bickering with the extremists egging some of the young or militant on - keeping themselves in power and whipping some elements into action. Look what they are trying to do in Lebanon. Once a peaceful place. |
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Look what america did in central america, the far east and in the middle east by supporting dictators once their ideal of the 'Grand Area' started to fall apart.
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why do think North Korea nuked up?because they were next on the list for a little regime change
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they tried to wipe out Israel and failed
they simply do not like it but Israel are not going to let it happen |
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All america cared about around there was Egypt.
By the time Israel became 'established' (by breaking UN conventions) america was on the end of a sting as the majority of the Fed were supporters of the cause and was lending the money at a nailed on 6% return and unregulated so the nation of america could have proxy foreign conquests using euphemisms like 'defence spending' |
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Still trying to work out the link between Trump's tax plans and the jerusalem statement. Must be a senator or two who have promised their support in return for this but maybe some of the more informed folk on here can fill in the details..
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gilzby - the tax plan was bought by rich GOP donors like the Koch (pron ****) brothers. The Jerusalem issue would be specifically bought by Trump donors like Adelson, who also wants a pre-emptive muclear strike on Iran.
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The Balfour Declaration has a lot to answer for. One of the worst decisions in history. Zionism stinks.
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Trump has a long memory. He remembers the Palestine's dancing in the streets when the twin towers were attacked in his home city..
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thought it was Zionists in New York on the day watching them come down
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Oh look their crawling out of the woodwork now
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believe what you like mug,couldnt give a flying f uck what you think
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"oh look their crawling out of the woodwork now"
and now in English please ![]() |
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![]() i previously posted the jordanian flag and the palestinian flag - side by side - please google them. they are the same - except the trans jordanian flag has a small star. the reason is - that they never renamed the land Palestine but Jordan. The land was divided by the UN - 77 percent went to the palestinians(arabs as they were called in 1948) and 23 percent of the land went to Israel. the capital was shared. the christians got nothing. there was 3 percent christians. 30 percent of the population was Israeli and they got 23 percent of the land. So the israelis got the shaft on that deal. there was always israelis living on the land. always represented even when the population of Jerusalem was a thousand in the sixth century. When Mohammedans conquered the place in the seventh century and erected the golden tit mosque? (some call it an abomination) the jews were there. Currently there are fifteen million jews worldwide, upper estimate. 7 million in Israel. there are 1,500 million muslims worldwide. They cannot afford to leave the jews alone? as they are showing them up? a hundred to one ratio. cannot let them have the land that Mohammad told them to give to the jews? that's right in the Koran, Mohammad instructs them to give the land back to the jews and help them. Crazy ****. they got their cake 77 percent of the land - they did not own any of it? because it was TURKISH for 400 years. Not Palestine... it was the Ottoman empire - 1517-1917. then it was British. until 1947. Recap - the bible says two thirds of JEWS will die in the tribulation. that's ten million more jews will die. And this world is against them. So all you idiots that are pro Palestinian are against God's chosen people. The evil that's coming down to the jews soon will be reflected back on judgement day. Jerusalem was never the capital of Palestine. |
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as above - I said earlier - they were there long before the Mo's lot
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‘Where else?’ Netanyahu cites Bible to justify Trump’s Jerusalem move, urges EU to follow suit
https://www.rt.com/news/412686-netanyahu-jerusalem-capital-bible/ |
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The land was divided by the UN - 77 percent went to the palestinians(arabs as they were called in 1948) and 23 percent of the land went to Israel. the capital was shared. the christians got nothing. there was 3 percent christians. 30 percent of the population was Israeli and they got 23 percent of the land. So the israelis got the shaft on that deal.
Yes, Palestinian nationalism is a relatively new phenomenon. I just don't get why some people are so against Israel's right to exist and defend itself. believe what you like mug,couldnt give a flying f uck what you think He's certainly no mug. I would estimate he's at least in the top 5% on here when it comes to backing horses. |
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the jews were located in southern Russia hundreds of years ago I thought?
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o really nick,well what pees me off is what I said was filmed and is correct so if he doesn't know what he talking about its best to say nothing
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" What I said was filmed " what does that actually mean ?
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