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ufcdan
04 Dec 17 12:56
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According to the Rowntree Foudation the number of children in poverty has risen. Sky news keep showing a single mum saying how hard it is to get by. Her house is nice with a sofa that cost north of a grand, herself and her child were well dressed. She obviously had pride in her appearance and more importantly her child had nice clothes and it clear to see was well taken care of and loved hardly the face of poverty. It is hard for many to make ends meet and by the way where is the fathers contribution to help bringing up the fruit of his loins ? This woman is living and by many countries standards living well off of benifits. This Imo is not poverty !

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By:
1st time poster
When: 04 Dec 17 13:10
you missed out the bit about struggling to pay for toilet paper and basic toiletries
By:
1st time poster
When: 04 Dec 17 13:15
you could be the women  anchor on sky she watched the film made by her own reporter, mention she couldn't afford toilet rolls,then said should not been able to afford 2 weeks in spain be counted as been in poverty,non of which was mentioned in the film
By:
donny osmond
When: 04 Dec 17 13:25
they define poverty as less than 60% of median wage and exclude housing costs

so a disposable income of around £250 a week for a single bloke is in poverty

i think they should use some other word than poverty as it suggests real hardship
, which clearly is not always the case
By:
donny osmond
When: 04 Dec 17 13:27
sorry 250 is a couple with no kids, its £150 for a single person
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 13:35
poverty doesn't bother me
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 13:36
even a new suit makes me feel uncomfortable
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 13:40
the sighs and tear stains of these poor people make me want to laugh

Maybe I shouldn't do that
By:
dustybin
When: 04 Dec 17 13:51
97% of world finance is debt.
Just how those who want a return on capital investment want it.
For all the assertions of those within western democracies whos standards have been raised along with all, forget the fact nobody ever paid for any of it and the national debt rose inline with a nation fighting a world war.
By:
dustybin
When: 04 Dec 17 13:58
The whole thing is a massive ponzi scheme
If it wasnt for the general public being pushed crap they dont need under the remit they have to have it non of the money men
would be able to make any money while doing nowt
By:
1st time poster
When: 04 Dec 17 14:17
SO 150 QUID A WEEK 600 a month,in some places doesn't pay the rent
By:
geoff m
When: 04 Dec 17 14:30
lfc1971 admit it you need a bigger size!
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 14:36
: ) I am very tall and very thin and very rich
As someone once said you can't be too thin or too rich

Who can deny that ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 14:37
no one likes poor people , and when we have to listen to this sort of nonsense we can see why
By:
dustybin
When: 04 Dec 17 14:40
Poor people is exactly what rich people need
If it wernt for them everyone would be average and then how would they feel superior?
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 14:41
dusty there was once even a time when I insisted on mending a torn suit with my own hands

What's wrong with that ?
By:
dustybin
When: 04 Dec 17 14:43
I dont recall saying there was
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 14:46
i would like to put quite special emphasis on this , it is fine to be poor and it is fine to be not poor
As long as people leave you alone
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 14:47
Too many do gooders will ruin this fine country
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 14:48
no sensible man in England should fear living on Englands streets
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 14:49
Heaven knows there are worse things
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 14:52
That is freedom, but yes it can be very cold
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Dec 17 14:53
be very very thankful for such freedoms in England
By:
Injera
When: 04 Dec 17 15:35
Meanwhile in takeaway land Just Eat has been promoted to the FTSE 100. It's now worth £5.5BN, that's more than M&S!!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/29/a-bigger-slice-of-the-pie-just-eat-enters-ftse-100-with-55bn-valuation

'The UK’s love affair with having pizzas, curries and kebabs delivered to their door has spawned a mobile food business with no products and no outlets that is more highly valued than Sainsbury’s, which sells 90,000 products through 1,400 stores – and also owns the Argos chain. Just Eat is also worth more than Morrisons and Marks & Spencer.'
By:
1st time poster
When: 04 Dec 17 15:44
mentioned this last week inerja and saddest part of it,was that it replaced babcocks who engineered some of our greatest engineering projects home and abroad,
By:
dustybin
When: 04 Dec 17 16:08
Thats disruption effect for you.

Like when Kodak employed 250,000 workers and closed the same week Instagram employing a fraction was sold to facebook for stupid money only to be given away as part of the facebook product for free so that all the actions of the people using it can be tracked and used to sell more crap.
By:
Injera
When: 04 Dec 17 16:10
Takeaways are most prevalent in 'poorer' areas. Why?
By:
lovegod
When: 04 Dec 17 16:29
Because if they cook they will end up in energy poverty.
By:
mecca
When: 04 Dec 17 22:55
Bone idle women who would send some shmuck out to Gregg's in the morning, rather than make a breakfast themselves.

I know..... I was that shmuck for a few years
By:
Capt__F
When: 04 Dec 17 23:27
easy target the poor
By:
dukeofpuke
When: 05 Dec 17 09:05

Dec 4, 2017 -- 2:17PM, 1st time poster wrote:


SO 150 QUID A WEEK 600 a month,in some places doesn't pay the rent


they define poverty as less than 60% of median wage and exclude housing costs

By:
dustybin
When: 05 Dec 17 09:35
Injera • December 4, 2017 4:10 PM GMT
Takeaways are most prevalent in 'poorer' areas. Why?



The Joseph Rowntree Foundation is a notable exception to the rule of thumb that follows that the state be reduced and the private sector allowed to do all that is required to profit, and as a result businesses who have no interest in the common good of humanity provide products that are bad for people. The Rowntree was set up from a time long past, when companies studied the effects of their companies had on society. Now companies shape the environment based on the products they make while pandering not to the interest of their own workforces but to those who have accumulated reserves of capital.

Take for example the advertising regimen that sponsor the likes of 'celebrity' tv shows and their ilk. You dont see local sellers of fruit and veg or cooking advice, instead you see aunt bessie or iceland bombarding their captive audience with processed foodstuff that are far worse for you but makes them profit. Nor do you see the likes of mcdonalds advertise in New Scientist, because the client base tend to be better informed and less likely to be easily lead.

Education is the key, The Rowntree Foundation is an honourable organisation that attempts this, but the next source of education comes from the state, the very thing the private sector wants to run into the ground.

Its the scientific sponsoring at state level that does the informing that changes the mindset of the population through proper regulation of the private sector that have grown so obsessed with profit due to raging competition. On the very few occasions the likes of mcdonald change ever so slightly to meet the changing opinion, like was seen with the advent of salads with their meals....but that was a bi-product of the society saying they werent going to frequent their establishments as they were of a different age, and it was the study of those facts and the resulting marketing departments that were therefore shaped by public opinion.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 05 Dec 17 13:29
It's simple.

More immigration = more people in need.

Plenty of us saw it coming from a mile back and were called racists for voicing our opinions.

Now the chickens are coming home to roost.
By:
akabula
When: 05 Dec 17 20:36
Injera
Takeaways are most prevalent in 'poorer' areas. Why?


Same with bookies.
By:
bix
When: 06 Dec 17 09:04
Education has to be the answer and perhaps bring back Home Economics in schools. Teach people that if you've got no money there are cheaper alternatives than take-aways though you will have to get off your backside and make an effort to cook something.
If you could bring back someone who had endured real poverty in the 1920s they'd laugh their socks off at what is considered poverty today.
By:
howard
When: 06 Dec 17 13:40
No poverty in Britain. Apart from between the ears.
By:
moisok
When: 06 Dec 17 15:08
around here the 'newcomers' rifle through charity shop bags and sit in the coffee shops buying nothing.  What on earth have we imported?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 06 Dec 17 15:47
The poverty diet - kebab and chips three times a day washed down with coke.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 06 Dec 17 15:48
Fish and chips on a Tuesday and Friday.
By:
lovegod
When: 06 Dec 17 15:50
Sounds like the ideal diet for a heart attack?
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