APOLLO 17 A FAKE?

If any historical figure had the capability to reach the moon without the assistance of NASA , it's Santa Claus . He certainly mastered the art of powered flight before anyone else

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terry mccann • August 29, 2018 12:09 PM BST
Jomo,i wouldn't have bovvered but there is film that I hadn't seen before which shows it was all a monumental lie....proberlyLaugh, so kindly watch ta

Have done. Was overjoyed to see it was a Bart Sibrel vid. I'm very particular about the credibility of my sources and get suspicious of those who churn these things out to make money. Thankfully Bart isn't one of them. No sir. Not at all.

And what an eye-opener the video was. So much new and concrete evidence to discuss.

1. The wires. Coz, like, we've never done this one before. To spice things up, tho, we've got exciting new footage, where the astronaut gets up without being helped by his partner. Well, must have been wires, then. Except, Bart then cut to video which clearly shows the astronaut being helped up by his partner*. Dammit, Bart, humans have two arms and hands, y'know.

2. The light source coming from beneath the horizon... any chance it could be the sun bouncing back off his watch? 

3. The noises. Bart can hear noises, like Bean hammering a pole into the ground, when we shouldn't be hearing them. If all the Apollo missions were filmed in Hollywood, with the sounds of hammering etc. having to be removed in editing, isn't it a wee bit of a coincidence that one of the two examples Bart provides for us of the editing team forgetting to remove the sound contains Bean wondering why they can hear the hammering? Don't you think that might just have reminded the editing team to cut that bit and reshoot it without Bean forgetting he isn't on the moon? Also, why are they editing out individual background noises. Wouldn't it be easier for the astronauts to do dub their speech over the film?

4. The drumroll. Of course, we have finish off with the Orion stuff (which we covered a few pages ago, iirc). One question... why doesn't Bart use an image of the van Allen belts as they actually are? The one he uses - consistent with van Allen's findings (before he was got at NASA before NASA was actually created) - suggests there might just be a path that minimises radiation? Bart DOES know how the van Allen belts are actually shaped, doesn't he?

I think you can tell, terry, that I've not been humongously won over. Give me a vaguely convincing counter-argument to any of my four comments and I promise I'll appraise them seriously.

Indeed it could be all true what you say Jomo although how he picked the guy up by the top of his head and has the strength to lift him 5ft(appx) into the air was mighty impressive , but then you have turned it all around to suit your side of things, so who is right and who is wrong?  I cant say for sure they went and visa visa

o yes and the clips which may or may not have been used for the wiring,a little odd NASA have never explained the reason for them?

He didn't pick the guy up by the top of his head, but by his hand. He says "hold my hand", not "hold my head". Reduced gravity reduced the weight the other guy's lifting, while his right foot looks to get a holding when he gets up. Does it look a bit weird? Sure. How exactly is someone on the moon meant to get up? Should they get up exactly in the same way as they would on earth, only in slow motion? Except, I remember another video that put forward the theory it was faked because the buggy being driven looked just like you'd drive it on earth, just slowed down a bit. Do you get the irony of you suggesting I've turned it all around to suit?

The rings... have NASA "explained" every other piece of equipment (bearing in mind, if we're getting as detailed as ring attachments on a clip thing, this would shirley equate to many thousand component parts being documented)? Have they actually been asked to explain them? If they're being used to hold up Pinocchio, wouldn't it make sense to attach the ropes at the top of the pack, so that they went straight up to the studio ceiling? Freeze the film at 9.28 and look at where he's suggesting the ropes are attached. Is that really the best place for them to go, thinking about maneuverability and weight distribution, as well as the easiest way to Photoshop out the ropes?     

I don't have a side on this terry. At least, I didn't - I believe I am quite open-minded. But all the purported evidence for this being a hoax is, imo, circumstantial at best and utter garbage for the most part. It's not helped by the fact there appears to be no counter theory for what actually happened, while what I would describe as a fairly quick and rudimentary challenge of Sibrel's vid appears to have created a number issues. Skepticism doesn't only just work one way, you know that, right?

Yep true Jomo,btw you know NASA stands for Never a Straight Answer don't you, well earned so why be like that? after all it was a truly wonderful to achieve

I think the time's ripe for NASA to admit that the moon landings were a hoax.

They've only 'admitted' it in movie films, where it's easy to deny. There's billions of tax payer dollars poured into NASA, so they're hardly likely to ever admit they fake almost everything they do.

Quick get that man a drink

Cheers!

This is all very senseless , dr crippen  shouldn’t be encouraging Terry in his delusions

The Doc wont let it lie

It's all been a big science fiction puppet show the games up NASholes coz we all know. Thanks for the show NASA it's been a blast now take your fake station and shove it up your *%#^

Buzz Aldrin says he didn't land on the moon. I guee the little girl Zoe knew how to get to the truth...

Listen from 4:30. https://youtu.be/EKx8sSzj8j0

I'm sure it was answered on here somewhere, but what was the explanation for the dust thrown up by the moon buggy falling back down just like it does here on Earth?

FFS injera - another few minutes of my life wasted watching a conspiracy theory loon-tube video.


So asked why man not gone to moon for almost half a century & answering a 7 year old , the 70 year old Aldrin says we didn't go there.

So does he mean we have not been there for decades because of money

Or
or should we ignore the 2nd part of the answer where he answers the question & talks about cost of rockets etc. And just concentrate on 4 words.


So after 100,000+ people have been telling lies for 50 years Aldrin cracks under interrogation for a small child.




Did laugh when seeing the uneducated/ unqualified Terry suggesting that we should not believe stories in the Daily mail - this from the guy who spends half gif life watching loons with tin foil hats telling the "truth " about all science & technology.

Mexico - so you don't believe Buzz? Fairly clear wasn't it?

Why call it 'loon tube'? You calling Buzz a loon? From the horse's mouth: 'we didn't got there'.

Yep seemed pretty clear.
An old man answers a question to a small child.

He is explaining why man has not gone to the moon for almost 50 years.

Nobody is claiming we did go to the moon since 1973 (which is what the child 's question is about). Aldrin said we didn't go there - so did the old man mean we didn't go there since 1973

OR has he cracked under interrogation and let slip the secret which only 100,000 or so know about.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Tough one - what did Aldrin me And???

Injera. ive noticed time again Trolls always call people on the internet "loons". this is to discredit anything they don't like or want you to see.Mexico is a troll and this how we operates, next he will come back with something like im thick or mental,but its water off a ducks back,the guy is a rancid pile of stinking poop.

Actually Terry - I have claimed you are uneducated & lacking even the most basic understanding of science & mathematics.

That is not the same as you being "thick" .


Of course somebody with above average intelligence would understand the difference.


You could let us know what scientific education you have achieved if you really want.

LOL Terry - you of all people suggesting we should not believe the Daily Mail , then spending hours watching loon-tube to find "the truth" about 9-11, moon landings, 5G, new world order, school shootings, London bombing, climate change etc. Etc.

Mexico if you put so much store in a decent education, are you suggesting that we should always believe what someone who falls into that category tells us and never challenge their views?

It's often been said that the easiest people to con are educated people, once you've sold them your credibility.
Take all those people who've bought worthless shares down the years. The one thing they nearly all had in common was that they were professional educated people.
And they all believed they were too intelligent to be taken in.

Ah yes the Mail,like All media run and told what to say and what not to say by your mates the elite, there you are again using the word "loon" as all TROLLS do. So tell us the truth about 9/11,moon landings,chemtrails and 5G,go on I dare you, they would hang you by yer b0llocks if you did slimeball

And you have forgotten to mention SMART METERS AND THE SMART GRID,perhaps you can tell us all about the horror stories coming out from the USA about SMART METERS, no of course not even your fellow yanks are all loons,the TROLLS choice of word to discredit

terry there’s no need  for that dreadful language . If the moon landing was faked then it should be very easy after all these years to show us the evidence
you can’t do that can you ?

Go ahead what’s your first bit of proof

That’s hard facts now we need , let’s see ....

In one sentence just tell us

This is what happened ,this is how it was faked , these are the people involved , this is where it was done etc  and here is the evidence for all this
These are sort of things we need

No one is unwilling to believe you , certainly not ,
But you must show us the evidence , the facts , that’s all

Go ahead , let’s see....

Guess what IFC,No I f ucking cant show you any Facts,so I guess Im wrong on everything,o dear what a pity ,o dear what a shame.

You see that's the idea of a cover up,they cover it up,but as its a cover up it means they are covering it up because it isn't true and that's how it works,you know full well that is the case so it makes it very difficult indeed to show any facts but it doesn't make anyone wrong to ask questions because if we didn't we all be like you

That’s what I thought terry you don’t have any evidence do you ?

I find that remarkable that you can’t give us one little provable fact , not one ?

If you can manage to come up with one little provable fact terry

Let us all know ,what’s wrong with that ?

Go ahead , in one sentence if you can that would be nice ...

Anyone who believes that fake ass puppet show up above the skies in 66 was for real, is a f*cking ret#rd. - Calington Sanders Comedy Club 1982

That was the World Cup win , moon landing was 69

They were both facts , unless terry comes up with some evidence that they are not

So far nothing ...,

if terry has any evidence that England’s World Cup win in 1966 was not real but faked I will listen to that also

Let’s see ....

Over 2,000 posts here on a thread over 9 months old, with many links providing irresistible evidence that the moon landings were a hoax, and almost complete certainty that the pictures were staged, et lfc wants to go through the whole torrent of evidence again.

Quite extraordinary.

I suggest he reads the thread again, and watches all the links supplied that contain the evidence.

That's if he's got a day or two to spare.

what evidence drC , go ahead  im listening

Just one small piece of evidence , one fact ...

Tell me in words , please

terry has already admitted he can’t give any evidence

Not even one little fact, isn’t that amazing ?

Try the second post of the thread lfc, and when you've thrashed that out again for the umpteenth time, I'll drip feed you all the other evidence from the thread. That should keep us going for the next nine months.

And who knows, we might even lure all the other believers back as well to do it all again.

“ Guess what IFC, No I f ucking cant show you any Facts “

Those were terrys words , and I believe him

Nowwhy should I waste my time going over all their thread when that’s what terry said

And he started it ?

Well there you go then lfc you've won.

By the way, can you show us any evidence that man did walk on the moon?

Apart from staged pictures and a movie that was presented as a running commentary.

No I can’t show you any evidence that England won the World Cup in 1966 either

But I’m prepared to believe it , unless there is evidence that proves it did not happen

I’m like that

I swam with the Loch Ness monster yesterday I have no evidence of this happening but there's no evidence that proves it did not happen therefore I swam with the Loch Ness monster yesterday.

Breaststroke or freestyle Mmh?

I don’t believe you can swim mmh , because you told me
I don’t believe the rest because you told me , I will need evidence for that

Sorry

* sorry I do believe you can swim because you told me mmh

If it was impossible for people to swim I would not believe you
sorry , I’m like that

It’s a question of judgement , I think that’s were the doc and terry are going wrong
just my opinion

But I will need evidence , facts , to change my mind

Go ahead , let’s see ....

In one sentence , or even a paragraph ...

I’ve listened to mmh little fairy tail
That didn’t do much at all

Maybe mmh will tell us a little ghost story next and expect us to believe that

That’s the sort of thing I am sure he might do

I won’t believe that either , because I don’t believe in ghosts

without evidence of course

I have no doubt whatsoever that terry would believe mmhs ghost story

You see there is the scientific and rational mind , and there is the mind that is full of the scurrying of little white  mice

Don’t confuse one with the other

That’s what mmh is doing , it’s not his fault

I must admit I've never even swam in Lock Ness never mind with the monster.
However I have been to Lock Ness.

So I can assure everyone that that there is a Lock Ness, and it is where they say it is.

Didn't spot the monster on that occasion, but I'll keep my eyes peeled next time I'm down that way.
Rest assured I'll write about it on here if I do happen to sight it.

I’ve been there as well doc , it’s very beautiful
I don’t believe there is a monster unfortunately
I would like to
and will look forward to any evidence

I’ve been to loch Linnie and  Lomond
very beautiful , but no monsters there either
I’m doubtful they exist anywhere in the world to be honest

I did see something in the water that looked promising when I was there but it was only a pop bottle.

There so much plastic in the water these days it's hard to tell if it's a monster or a piece of debris.

Facts and evidence that is what we need
Who can deny that ?

I wouldn’t believe they were on the moon either if they told me

Not without evidence , sorry I’m like that

I've got some good hard evidence for you. I managed to take some selfies of me and Nessy yesterday but people are saying they look more like cartoon drawings, but what do they know the idiots.
Also took some video of Nessy but it didn't come out very well it looks a bit grainy, they're saying it's fake and the monster looks like a big tree branch in the lake but they are all loony.

lfc1971 don't let them conspiracists get to you, you know it's true me and Nessy was doing the butterfly yesterday.

I wouldn’t believe them if they said they had found the monster on the moon

or even mars

I'm surprised the first astronauts who claimed they landed on the moon didn't spot the monster with their birds eye view from space as they wended their way across the galaxy. Through a telescope of course.

I'd have thought they would have added something like that in the script to add a bit of spice to their stories.

That’s lovely mmh , I’m just getting into art watching that programme fake or fortune
Why not give them a call ?

Well that's convinced me Mmh.

If you took a selfie of youself and Nessie that wraps it up.

or better still ask the doc and terry : )

I've lost all the video footage   but may be able to put some photos up later.

ahaha , very good we can look forward to evidence at last

To think terry thought there was none he will be delighted

I think we can take your word for it Mmh, so there's no need to put up any pictures.

What's the gravity like in Lock Ness by the way?

I agree there is no need , that lovely things like the Loch Ness monster might exist

Is a lovely thought

NASA now it has even less to do than in the past are doing the fine job for the elite,only 2 days old "California"s Mosquito Crisis; What EPA Vector Control had to say"A video by local resident Jane Tande, enjoy.

Amazingly it's been gone a year!!!!

Since the thread started, that is.

The Loch Ness Monster is a refreshing change on here, what age do you think it is?
About 4 million years old is my guess. Must have been born on a Thursday.

iirc, it was first photographed in 1933?
But even THAT silliness has been taken seriously enough to send out teams with sonar and have fortunes spent on it!

There is a guy camped by the loch with his camera trained on the water day and night except when he's sleeping.

Does he post on here?

Worth a fortune to the local community with all the visitors they get so can't blame them for perpetuating the myth.

The most famous photo ever albeit the snapper admitted to it being false.
Despite this it is still to be seen in the Nessie centre.

50 years ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48907836

What's remarkable is that something we accomplished half a century ago is beyond our capabilities now.
Space travel must be the only branch of science that goes backwards.

little confused....

Spose it really did happen.

Visual evidence of debris or flag etc left behind would solve this
From a quick search on Google still not possible ?????????????

1 in 6 people in the U.K. believe that the moonlandings were faked

source: BBC click

there is so much film being shown on tv of all the missions and data
from the tracking stations.

must have spent a fortune on faking it, shirley cheaper to have risked a few
blokes lives going to do the real thing.

shirley cheaper to have risked a few blokes lives going to do the real thing.

Impossible is impossible.

They couldn't do it then and it looks like they can't do it now.

cant do it this very second, no desire, already done it.

So they could just decide today ok we are going to the moon tomorrow !

wheres the experiments , the moon dust collected, tested by outsiders ?

This filmmaker guy explains things well and with good humour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs

Great line at the end as well!

I would have thought we have landed men on Mars by now

disappointed we have not

I found it extremely boring and tedious to watch at the time..

I liked watching Science Fiction, I thought where are the aliens..

TheBetterBettor    17 Jul 19 13:06 
1 in 6 people in the U.K. believe that the moonlandings were faked

source: BBC click


9 in 10 people in the UK believe the BBC news is fake.